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So pissed off at apple...ridiculous.
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Are you pretending to not understand things? none of the pro machines were released as they were announced.
They could've announced "a better graphic chip coming on november" when they announced it in summer.
That's what they've been doing with all their professional machines for half a decade.
Apple knew GPUs existed, they work closely with AMD.
Or do you think AMD developed these in a week?
Listen buddy, you’re right to be pissed about the issues your having.
The point of this thread, allegedly (before you started ranting about a history of issues that bug you), was about the release date of new GPU chips that literally were not available in October. If AMD didn’t want to announce them at the time what in the world was Apple supposed to do? You honestly wanted Apple to break news that AMD was not ready to do. That’s an amazing way to look at business.
I sincerely hope your machine issues get sorted out. All the other stuff you just threw at the wall, however, made it seem like you just wanted to rant.
How many times was Apple burned by Intel because they were promised new chips in a few months, only to be waiting a year. Why should Apple make a promise it can't control.
Because I can't get my money back.
This is not a 500€ laptop, this is a laptop which costs 2x as much as a PC counterpart, and part of the cost is superior support and reliability, part of the cost is certainly not being ****ed over.
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Actually, they could release 4 months ago, with a note to say feature x will come later, with or without an ETA.
Some laptops already do this, eg the 4K option or HDR screens aren’t available but they let the customer know at time of purchase when they expect it to come. The customer can then decide if they either need it, or want to wait for it - the choice is there.
If it is the case that this dGPU blindsided them, I guess that’s unfortunate. I would however have thought they knew it was coming. That way many people would probably still buy the machine, and no one would be upset.
Technology is always changing. You always run a risk that what you buy will be obsolete in a month.
Oh yeah I wanted to rant.
Ma2k5 put it way more eloquently than I can because I 'm to pissed, so i'm just going to quote him on the issue:
Is Apple required to tell you what products they have 4 months down the road? When has Apple ever done this in their history?
Oh my god.
Vega Pro 16 and 20 are 14nm process chips, they arent NEW, they are GCN5 and have been out FOR A YEAR.
If you don't know what you are talking about then just don't.
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When they announced iMac Pro in summer 2016 and Mac Pro in summer 2013.
So why did you buy the laptop if you know they had these other chips? Obviously you didn't want the machine you bought if you wanted something better.
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So twice in their 40 plus year history?
Because apple *never* in the history of the macbook updated only GPU after 4 months of initial release, and they always announced a professional product months before it was available for purchase.
The fact that such chips existed (so did GTX 1050 and GTX 1060) doesn't mean apple would've used them inside their laptops.
edit: And no, I wasn't happy with 560X and if apple had *announced* better GPU options (like they announced iMac Pro or Mac Pro) at the time i would have waited another few months for a better dGPU
I believe these are BTO options only, so it's not really an update. You can't just walk into the Apple store and say you want these new machines.
Yes, exactly... It's not an update, they never ever "updated" a MacBook in such a manner...
Why would they, it's a MacBook, they would not put a pro graphics card into it.
Actually Vega 16 and 20 were announced on Oct 30th...
https://www.amd.com/en/press-releas...obile-discrete-graphics-coming-to-macbook-pro
The Vega architecture has been around for a year, but no mobile variant existed.
So Apple is supposed to delay their whole product line 4 months until these things were released? And even then who knows if they get released on time.
Imagine the ********* we would be hearing about with such a delay.
Apple has been working closely with AMD for quite some time tho...
No, they would only need to delay the BTO option for the minority of people like me who bought the souped up BTOs.
More of an agreement with you about your post.
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They did delay the BTO option until it was ready.
also if you think apple was able to cram a new chip in one week - as in, they announced it on 30th of october and apple checked the AMD page and said "hey we can use that"?
ugh...
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But they didn't announce it, effectively screwing over anyone who wouuld have gotten such a BTO.
Do they have a right to announce another companies unreleased product? That would be like AT&T announcing the new iPhone during the summer.
Apple had 2 options, hold off the whole line for 4-5 months or break NDA and announce a chip they don't have authority to make public.
Are you seriously implying apple doesn't have a close relationship and deals with AMD?
And they didn't even have to announce it by name; they only had to announce "a more powerful GPU BTO option coming in november" - that's all they had to do - and every decent company that has decent business conduct does so.