So, sold my sgs2...

[kre62]

To be honest, even though ip4 sucks compared hardware wise. Android just cant compete with the app store.

Keep in mind though that Android phones are really just half a device in theory.

I say that because Android has no hardware graphics acceleration. Its all software rendered, so it cant make use of a powerful GPU. Thats why the iPhone 3GS is still smoother than 99% of android phones. Android phones have to throw raw CPU cycles at the UI to brute-force render something the iPhone does effortlessly in hardware. That drains the battery like running water.

Now when the A5 bearing iPhone comes out, it'll be an even bigger blowout than it already is. Android users will finally get Hardware Acceleration in Ice Cream Sandwich, but i'm guessing new phones will be required because 1)Manufact won't update their phones to new version and 2) Many Android phones today have weak GPUs cause why bother when its software rendered?

 

[ImperialX]

I say that because Android has no hardware graphics acceleration. Its all software rendered, so it cant make use of a powerful GPU.

lolwut, that is plain wrong. Hardware acceleration is the only reason why I still have an Android phone. You can get it when you have root access.

The iPad 2 uses the same ARM-v9 as the SGS2. Try decoding this 1080p MKV with your iPad 2. It will not be able to render even the first frame regardless what player you use. The SGS2 cuts through it like butter as shown in the vid.

 

[DanteMann]

4.3" super amoled screen which is great (apart from the banding on gradients), dual core processor and 1gb of ram making everything fly (though androids convoluted way of doing things cancels this out), the 8mp camera which takes fantastic pictures and 1080p video (the best iv seen from a camera phone) all make the hardware pretty sweet, live wallpapers are nice but wont save the os from its many flaws

You know, you sound more like someone that went back to something because it was comfortable. Nothing is perfect, and it takes time to get used to another OS. It doesn't seem that you cared to give it that time. And that's perfectly ok.
Can you imagine if we all abandoned our purchases because of a first time bad experience that may be due to a defect, like the light bleed or yellow tints on ipads and iphones and iMac cinema displays. It wouldn't really be all that fair. Now if one gives back their device because it was something that wasn't considered a defect, like an limited customizable OS, or closed ecosystem, or even bad call quality due to inadequate hardware that's working just the way it supposed to, then those reasons I can understand.

 

[Pink∆Floyd]

So you sold it, and bought a 4 again?

Or did you have it with you the whole time?

 

[kre62]

lolwut, that is plain wrong. Hardware acceleration is the only reason why I still have an Android phone. You can get it when you have root access.

YouTube: video

The iPad 2 uses the same ARM-v9 as the SGS2. Try decoding this 1080p MKV with your iPad 2. It will not be able to render even the first frame regardless what player you use. The SGS2 cuts through it like butter as shown in the vid.

Im talking GPU, not CPU. The iPad 2 has a PowerVR SGX543 Dual Core GPU.

Heres how it compares to tegra 2 chipsets: (last two benchies)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4445/samsung-galaxy-tab-101-review/8

And I'm not neccesarily referring to hardware codec decoding (movies). Hardware graphics acceleration for rendering on screen effects, scrolling of web pages, and other "fluid" UI elements that Android has never been able to match.

Its a known fact that Android wont have hardware graphics acceleration until ICS.

And the video you linked shows an iPhone 4, that has the same GPU as the 2009 3GS. The iPad2/ip5 will definitely hardware decode movies better than the sammy.

 

[DanteMann]

lolwut, that is plain wrong. Hardware acceleration is the only reason why I still have an Android phone. You can get it when you have root access.

YouTube: video

The iPad 2 uses the same ARM-v9 as the SGS2. Try decoding this 1080p MKV with your iPad 2. It will not be able to render even the first frame regardless what player you use. The SGS2 cuts through it like butter as shown in the vid.

Wrong forum to post such a thing. In this forum the mantra is "Specs don't matter." It honestly boggles my mind when people think that the iPhone4 is anywhere in the same league as the SGS2. It just isn't. And Android runs smooth as silk on this bad boy. That stale old argument of lag just doesn't hold water here. As one would expect, the SGS2 does everything and I mean EVERYTHING better, smoother, and faster than the iPhone4. The performance is night and day. The only reason to choose the dated and inferior iPhone 4 over the SGS2 would be because you prefer the Apple brand. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing the iPhone 4 for that reason.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Im talking GPU, not CPU. The iPad 2 has a PowerVR SGX543 Dual Core GPU.

Heres how it compares to tegra 2 chipsets: (last two benchies)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4445/samsung-galaxy-tab-101-review/8

And I'm not neccesarily referring to hardware codec decoding (movies). Hardware graphics acceleration for rendering on screen effects, scrolling of web pages, and other "fluid" UI elements that Android has never been able to match.

Its a known fact that Android wont have hardware graphics acceleration until ICS.

And the video you linked shows an iPhone 4, that has the same GPU as the 2009 3GS. The iPad/ip5 will definitely hardware decode movies better than the sammy.

Thank You ..... At least somebody in here knows what the hell they are talking about.

These Android fanboys are a bunch of copy n paste & Youtube linking mofos.

 

[CosmoPilot]

The next iPhone really does need to step it up with some significant feature upgrades if it wants to be the decided leader in the market. Granted, the SGS2 does have the advantage of being almost an entire year newer than the iPhone 4... it just seems like with some of the other companies making so many advances in the cell phone world, Apple needs to work that much harder to be top gun.

I still likely will not be leaving iPhoneland in awhile for many of the reasons you mentioned and more.

Comments like these are always said after the latest iPhone has been on the market for a year. I promise, Apple will not disappoint when they release their next iteration. It will have "up-to-date" technology. It might just be an internal update, but with today's technology inside...it will be just as "fast" as everything else.

I for one am starting to believe the CPU/GPU updates are becoming less and less important. For me, the Apple experience with AirPlay, Homesharing, now iCloud are too big to ignore. I love coming home and being able to effortlessly stream media content all over my home. To a specific room if I want. Play pictures on the HDTV for all to see...with little effort! I can use my iPhone to stream media from my desktop computer to any room in the house, any Apple TV, etc. All from this "old" iPhone4!!!

To me, the CPU is not a big deal...the iPhone4 works fine today just as it did on launch day in 2010.

 

[TheMacBookPro]

Im talking GPU, not CPU. The iPad 2 has a PowerVR SGX543 Dual Core GPU.

Heres how it compares to tegra 2 chipsets: (last two benchies)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4445/samsung-galaxy-tab-101-review/8

And I'm not neccesarily referring to hardware codec decoding (movies). Hardware graphics acceleration for rendering on screen effects, scrolling of web pages, and other "fluid" UI elements that Android has never been able to match.

Its a known fact that Android wont have hardware graphics acceleration until ICS.

And the video you linked shows an iPhone 4, that has the same GPU as the 2009 3GS. The iPad2/ip5 will definitely hardware decode movies better than the sammy.

The GSII (in most countries anyways) has an Exynos 4210 SoC, not Tegra 2, so I'm not really sure what kind of point you're trying to prove with the Tegra 2 comparison...

The browser and several other key UI elements has been tweaked by Samsung to include hardware acceleration.

Besides I can't really say I've noticed any lag on my Galaxy S II, hardware acceleration or not.

Thank You ..... At least somebody in here knows what the hell they are talking about.

These Android fanboys are a bunch of copy n paste & Youtube linking mofos.

You Apple fanboys are a riot.

 

[gimmeiphone]

You know, you sound more like someone that went back to something because it was comfortable. Nothing is perfect, and it takes time to get used to another OS. It doesn't seem that you cared to give it that time. And that's perfectly ok.
Can you imagine if we all abandoned our purchases because of a first time bad experience that may be due to a defect, like the light bleed or yellow tints on ipads and iphones and iMac cinema displays. It wouldn't really be all that fair. Now if one gives back their device because it was something that wasn't considered a defect, like an limited customizable OS, or closed ecosystem, or even bad call quality due to inadequate hardware that's working just the way it supposed to, then those reasons I can understand.

Its not that im comfortable, its just that iphone fits easier into my whole system, like syncing everything from my mac perfectly, unlike doubletwist which messed my music up even after i converted my entire library to mp3 and added metadata again, tried about 4 different apps to sync my stuff none worked well at all. Personally, i just feel like android is a bit clunky, im not stupid enough to be sucked in by apples shinyness so to speak, but it just feels a lot easier to use, that said i can see why people would prefer the sgs2 like i said earlier it is super fast, just that things like having to go through a million steps to connect to to the computer alone, and the lack of any decent software to sync it when it is connected let it down for me big time

 

[PhxBlue]

The arguement of specs equaling inferiority is tired. Please stop that one track thinking.

 

[Hueyfreeman]

Wow I had no idea that so many people actually like to use itunes. Itunes happens to be the number one reason why I don't have an iphone. I hate using it for my ipod and it is the only program to crash on my computer. A gaming rig that has no problems running crysis two at max with 60 fps but itunes freezes up all the time.

 

[AAPLaday]

I enjoy my Nexus S but as far as android is concerned im not sure i would touch anything that isn't a Nexus. Having a clean fresh Android with up to date software is more important to me than HTC Sense or Touchwiz etc.

 

[Deanoaka]

Anybody want to buy my GS2. Horrid is my experience!

 

[ctbear]

Its not that im comfortable, its just that iphone fits easier into my whole system, like syncing everything from my mac perfectly, unlike doubletwist which messed my music up even after i converted my entire library to mp3 and added metadata again, tried about 4 different apps to sync my stuff none worked well at all. Personally, i just feel like android is a bit clunky, im not stupid enough to be sucked in by apples shinyness so to speak, but it just feels a lot easier to use, that said i can see why people would prefer the sgs2 like i said earlier it is super fast, just that things like having to go through a million steps to connect to to the computer alone, and the lack of any decent software to sync it when it is connected let it down for me big time

I think he was right. All this sounds like "the whole system sucks balls because it's nothing like how Apple's system works".
You just cannot always expect one company's product to work 100% perfectly with another's. In this case, Android+iTunes. Heck, why are you even complaining about Android - DoubleTwist is a third party app. So as facebook and other apps you mentioned before.

 

[kevinof]

Oh my god! what have I been doing all these years with my android phone. It doesn't do graphics acceleration!!!!!. I must send it back because no graphics acceleration means Android phones must be useless and not good for anything at all!!! It can't do email, or texts or even phone calls or browse or anything... its only half a device! Gee I must stop watching videos on my android phone

You know its posts like these that turn me off iphone users. On Android forums they (mostly) talk about their phones and how to get the best out of them. They don't spend too much time trying to kill off iphone or apple or starting posts like "ditched android and now back with Apple again"!.

Seems like here there are (a lot) of iphone users that either 1) just like slating the competition or 2) need to justify their purchase of an "apple product" or 3) feel inferior or 4) all of the above.

Just enjoy your iphone and get on with it, like I do with my SG2 (and my wife an daughter do with their iphones!).

Keep in mind though that Android phones are really just half a device in theory.

I say that because Android has no hardware graphics acceleration. Its all software rendered, so it cant make use of a powerful GPU. Thats why the iPhone 3GS is still smoother than 99% of android phones. Android phones have to throw raw CPU cycles at the UI to brute-force render something the iPhone does effortlessly in hardware. That drains the battery like running water.

Now when the A5 bearing iPhone comes out, it'll be an even bigger blowout than it already is. Android users will finally get Hardware Acceleration in Ice Cream Sandwich, but i'm guessing new phones will be required because 1)Manufact won't update their phones to new version and 2) Many Android phones today have weak GPUs cause why bother when its software rendered?

 

[AAPLaday]

On the syncing with iTunes note, i find that Salling Sync Media takes care of my needs very well. I use the free version but paid is better

http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/mac/

 

[yourmother]

On the syncing with iTunes note, i find that Salling Sync Media takes care of my needs very well. I use the free version but paid is better

http://www.salling.com/MediaSync/mac/

Thanks for that. I still don't know if I'll jump to android but if I do I'll give this program a shot.

 

[nefan65]

Oh my god! what have I been doing all these years with my android phone. It doesn't do graphics acceleration!!!!!. I must send it back because no graphics acceleration means Android phones must be useless and not good for anything at all!!! It can't do email, or texts or even phone calls or browse or anything... its only half a device! Gee I must stop watching videos on my android phone

You know its posts like these that turn me off iphone users. On Android forums they (mostly) talk about their phones and how to get the best out of them. They don't spend too much time trying to kill off iphone or apple or starting posts like "ditched android and now back with Apple again"!.

Seems like here there are (a lot) of iphone users that either 1) just like slating the competition or 2) need to justify their purchase of an "apple product" or 3) feel inferior or 4) all of the above.

Just enjoy your iphone and get on with it, like I do with my SG2 (and my wife an daughter do with their iphones!).

The 3 bullets you mentioned can be said about any device. There are just as many rapid Android fans doing the same.

Like your last paragraph states; be happy with what you have. In the end it's a phone, not a lifestyle. You're not known by your electronics. At least I'd hope...

 

[gimmeiphone]

I think he was right. All this sounds like "the whole system sucks balls because it's nothing like how Apple's system works".
You just cannot always expect one company's product to work 100% perfectly with another's. In this case, Android+iTunes. Heck, why are you even complaining about Android - DoubleTwist is a third party app. So as facebook and other apps you mentioned before.

No, i tried dragging and dropping my media straight to clean sd card all perfectly names in folders etc. yet ANDROID messed it up, at least half my library was under unknown artist, and all the artwork was pixelated despite about 90% of it being over 500x500. Im complaining because android should work with the 3rd party apps designed FOR android, the firmwares are a joke when trying to update too, and the marketplace? please! what good is a all that high end hardware when all you can get are second rate hack job apps?. Im sorry if you dont agree with my personal opinion on a product i owned, but im just being honest. I tried android for a second time, first being with the htc desire and yet i find myself coming back to the iphone as 'it just works', whether it be on a pc or a mac. Just incase anyone else was thinking of jumping ship, maybe they will read my posts and think again if the problems i expressed will resonate with them also.

 

[gimmeiphone]

Thanks for that. I still don't know if I'll jump to android but if I do I'll give this program a shot.

tried it, and damn it leaves a lot of junk files on your mac, even appzapper didnt find some of em! maybe just my luck that it didnt work for me though

 

[ctbear]

No, i tried dragging and dropping my media straight to clean sd card all perfectly names in folders etc. yet ANDROID messed it up, at least half my library was under unknown artist, and all the artwork was pixelated despite about 90% of it being over 500x500. Im complaining because android should work with the 3rd party apps designed FOR android, the firmwares are a joke when trying to update too, and the marketplace? please! what good is a all that high end hardware when all you can get are second rate hack job apps?. Im sorry if you dont agree with my personal opinion on a product i owned, but im just being honest. I tried android for a second time, first being with the htc desire and yet i find myself coming back to the iphone as 'it just works', whether it be on a pc or a mac. Just incase anyone else was thinking of jumping ship, maybe they will read my posts and think again if the problems i expressed will resonate with them also.

I understand what you are saying. But it is a little cruel to blame the whole OS for it.
When I was using my Windows PC, I managed my music library with Mediamonkey. Then when I got my first Mac and tried to import the songs into iTunes, more than 90% of them had the tags completely messed up. I'm talking about 90% of roughly 10000 songs here.
Now I don't know whether it was iTunes or Mediamonkey, but I was under the impression that mp3 tags are universally accepted, despite the source. But obviously that was not the case.
I told myself that it was probably some incompatibilities between the 2 systems. And you know what? I didn't go on a forum and bash how crappy iTunes / Mediamonkey was. I tried to adapt my files to my new system and fixed the tags, one by one.
Sometimes there are just things that are different and don't feel comfortable to you. Unless it is absolutely the other thing's fault, I wouldn't make a blanket comment and discourage all future users.

 

[kre62]

The GSII (in most countries anyways) has an Exynos 4210 SoC, not Tegra 2, so I'm not really sure what kind of point you're trying to prove with the Tegra 2 comparison...

The browser and several other key UI elements has been tweaked by Samsung to include hardware acceleration.

Besides I can't really say I've noticed any lag on my Galaxy S II, hardware acceleration or not.



You Apple fanboys are a riot.

True, the SOC is Exynos. That uses a Mali 400MP GPU, which according to benchmarks is a little slower then Tegra2. So the benchies I posted were actually optimistic.

Got any backup on your claim about the tweaks? Android the operating system doesnt do anything hardware. Its all software rendered. So I find it hard to believe you didnt just make that up completely.

 

[walie]

one of the great things about the GS2 is that you don't have to convert videos to play them on the phone, its pretty much drag and drop regardless of format

 

[CSpackler]

Since when is decoding 1080p video on a handheld device important? First off, one doesn't even see the difference between 720p unless you're outputting it to at least a 42" screen. Second, 1080p files are enormous. I just don't see the average Android users playing full movies from their phones given the storage limitations.

And when I say average, I don't mean you or us. Apple has figured out how to tap the average user base, which is why they don't give the tech heads a hardware orgasm every iPhone release. They are behind because the average user doesnt care about specs. Marketing, look it up.