So, sold my sgs2...

[DanteMann]

I understand what you are saying. But it is a little cruel to blame the whole OS for it.
When I was using my Windows PC, I managed my music library with Mediamonkey. Then when I got my first Mac and tried to import the songs into iTunes, more than 90% of them had the tags completely messed up. I'm talking about 90% of roughly 10000 songs here.
Now I don't know whether it was iTunes or Mediamonkey, but I was under the impression that mp3 tags are universally accepted, despite the source. But obviously that was not the case.
I told myself that it was probably some incompatibilities between the 2 systems. And you know what? I didn't go on a forum and bash how crappy iTunes / Mediamonkey was. I tried to adapt my files to my new system and fixed the tags, one by one.
Sometimes there are just things that are different and don't feel comfortable to you. Unless it is absolutely the other thing's fault, I wouldn't make a blanket comment and discourage all future users.

BINGO!!! It seems a lot of Apple users feel that if their non Apple device doesn't do what they are used to with their Apple product, then its, "hell I'm getting rid of it." I never really understood this. It seems People that use Windows PCs, Android, or anything not Apple, and then buy an Apple product, have no problem adapting to the new Apple product.

 

[Stealthipad]

Android sucks. I could never leave iOS even if someone paid me. It has the best App Store ever, it's an extremely innovative and stable operating system, and it works seamlessly with my Mac and Airport network. A teacher I know has an Android device and he says that it crashes at least once every day, and it takes forever to turn on.

Sounds like you have really done YOUR homework!

I want the iP5 as bad as any other but am open minded enough to try other phones and the Galaxy S2 and Android does things that Apple will NEVER LET YOU DO! The screen and OS blow my iP4 out of the water and will remain my phone till I can see if Apple steps up.

But I guess if my WHOLE life was centered around Apple hardware I would like what they offered no matter what, too!

 

[ahfu25]

I've tried a couple android phones myself but what keeps me with the iPhone is the iPod/iTunes/Music capabilities. I'm a heavy music listener and no other phone comes close to the iPhone when it comes down to handing/playing music. Even the sound!

 

[TheMacBookPro]

True, the SOC is Exynos. That uses a Mali 400MP GPU, which according to benchmarks is a little slower then Tegra2. So the benchies I posted were actually optimistic.

Benchmarks aren't everything. Graphical performance is noticeably better on my GSII than my Atrix 4G (Tegra 2 based), at least for HD video playback via HDMI.

I can play back 1080p video to my Sharp HDTV using an MHL cable smoothly while my Atrix would stutter here and there with the same clip.

Got any backup on your claim about the tweaks? Android the operating system doesnt do anything hardware. Its all software rendered. So I find it hard to believe you didnt just make that up completely.

I said Samsung tweaked/modified the software.

No two opinions about stock Android not having hardware acceleration yet (although I must say it is still extremely smooth even without hw accel).

Doing a quick Google search will tell you that Samsung has enabled hardware acceleration in the TouchWiz home and the stock browser. Several third-party apps have hardware acceleration worked in as well (see: Opera browser).

Anything that can play 1080p Flash video embedded in the browser smoothly is quite probably hardware accelerated (my MacBook Air lags doing the same thing!).

Honestly, is there any need to say that I made it up completely? Especially when a 5 second google search will tell you that I didn't?

 

[nefan65]

BINGO!!! It seems a lot of Apple users feel that if their non Apple device doesn't do what they are used to with their Apple product, then its, "hell I'm getting rid of it." I never really understood this. It seems People that use Windows PCs, Android, or anything not Apple, and then buy an Apple product, have no problem adapting to the new Apple product.

Windows users are used to the anomalies, so chances are, many more accept it as "it is, what it is". So when they get an iPhone, and it just "works", there's nothing to do, but use it. If a regular Apple user gets something other than an Apple product, and it doesn't work as expected they get discouraged. This can be as simple as buying apps, or getting decent battery life. "Oh, you mean in order to get decent battery life, I need to ROOT my device, install a custom ROM, and do what?...Forget it"...

Neither is right/wrong, better/worse. It's a matter of expectations. This isn't always the case, nor am I implying that Apple products are better, etc. It's all about the different companies approach to selling. MS, like Android, have an OS that runs on multiple hardware platforms. Apple sells both, in a closed ecosystem. In the end, get what you need/want. It's your $$$

 

[nefan65]

Sounds like you have really done YOUR homework!

I want the iP5 as bad as any other but am open minded enough to try other phones and the Galaxy S2 and Android does things that Apple will NEVER LET YOU DO! The screen and OS blow my iP4 out of the water and will remain my phone till I can see if Apple steps up.

But I guess if my WHOLE life was centered around Apple hardware I would like what they offered no matter what, too!

Never is a long time, so I wouldn't say that...

In the end, I would hope peoples lives would be centered around LIFE, Family, and friends...not a company, or some foolish phone?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Oh my god! what have I been doing all these years with my android phone. It doesn't do graphics acceleration!!!!!. I must send it back because no graphics acceleration means Android phones must be useless and not good for anything at all!!! It can't do email, or texts or even phone calls or browse or anything... its only half a device! Gee I must stop watching videos on my android phone

You know its posts like these that turn me off iphone users. On Android forums they (mostly) talk about their phones and how to get the best out of them. They don't spend too much time trying to kill off iphone or apple or starting posts like "ditched android and now back with Apple again"!.

Seems like here there are (a lot) of iphone users that either 1) just like slating the competition or 2) need to justify their purchase of an "apple product" or 3) feel inferior or 4) all of the above.

Just enjoy your iphone and get on with it, like I do with my SG2 (and my wife an daughter do with their iphones!).

Then what the hell are you doing in the iPhone forums?

Nobody is forcing you to read & post in these threads if you like iPhone users.

 

[gimmeiphone]

I understand what you are saying. But it is a little cruel to blame the whole OS for it.
When I was using my Windows PC, I managed my music library with Mediamonkey. Then when I got my first Mac and tried to import the songs into iTunes, more than 90% of them had the tags completely messed up. I'm talking about 90% of roughly 10000 songs here.
Now I don't know whether it was iTunes or Mediamonkey, but I was under the impression that mp3 tags are universally accepted, despite the source. But obviously that was not the case.
I told myself that it was probably some incompatibilities between the 2 systems. And you know what? I didn't go on a forum and bash how crappy iTunes / Mediamonkey was. I tried to adapt my files to my new system and fixed the tags, one by one.
Sometimes there are just things that are different and don't feel comfortable to you. Unless it is absolutely the other thing's fault, I wouldn't make a blanket comment and discourage all future users.

i see what your saying, but itunes wasnt the root cause as i tried a number of programmes to sync my music, if not through itunes through my music folder. Tried most of the third party ones and even the proprietary samsung kies lite for mac, none of them worked! i tried the hd desire with a pc with all my old music from windows media player, still came out messed up. Not bashing the entire OS but many of its main features are pretty screwy, my point is iphone with itunes is perfect, what can you say for android on that front?

 

[ctbear]

i see what your saying, but itunes wasnt the root cause as i tried a number of programmes to sync my music, if not through itunes through my music folder. Tried most of the third party ones and even the proprietary samsung kies lite for mac, none of them worked! i tried the hd desire with a pc with all my old music from windows media player, still came out messed up. Not bashing the entire OS but many of its main features are pretty screwy, my point is iphone with itunes is perfect, what can you say for android on that front?

Fair enough.

Well in my case when I had my Android phone, I never experienced any problems with my music library. Tags and cover arts were displayed correctly. I don't know if the apps you used messed your songs up, because when I did it, I dragged the mp3 files to the SD card and that was it. Same as my photos and videos. They all displayed/played perfectly.

 

[nooaah]

You know, you sound more like someone that went back to something because it was comfortable. Nothing is perfect, and it takes time to get used to another OS. It doesn't seem that you cared to give it that time. And that's perfectly ok.
Can you imagine if we all abandoned our purchases because of a first time bad experience that may be due to a defect, like the light bleed or yellow tints on ipads and iphones and iMac cinema displays. It wouldn't really be all that fair. Now if one gives back their device because it was something that wasn't considered a defect, like an limited customizable OS, or closed ecosystem, or even bad call quality due to inadequate hardware that's working just the way it supposed to, then those reasons I can understand.

You claimed to get an iPhone 4 and immediately made posts saying you were dissatisfied. You then [supposedly] sold your iPhone 4 within 2 weeks. Throughout this time, you've bashed Apple in EVERY post you've made and talked up the SG2 in EVERY post you've made. At best, you lack the ability to evaluate your own actions. This post reeks of hypocrisy.

 

[xAnthony]

I think its less that they got a head start and more that apple produced a product that "just works" I've used android and iPhones and one of the things that strike the most is how polished the iPhone stuff is. I mean the music app is much better then the stock music app for android. Likewise the email app on the iPhone is much better and easier to work with then android's.

Android could become a potential risk if they stopped with this releasing a phone every other week garbage. If Android and let's say Samsung came together and produced a top notch phone that runs FLAWLESSLY. No lag, no crashes, no bugs... nothing. Just a top of the line phone that FEELS like one while you are using it. Give the consumer no reason to change back to their previous device. Then... They would be a good contender to beat out Apple's iPhone.

Until then, the iPhone 4 is a much better device than anything out there right now... And the iPhone 5 will push Apple that much further ahead.

 

[Nightarchaon]

Ive just gone from iphone to Samsung Galaxy S II, and yes, the marketplace is a joke, but there are other market places to choose from,

The apps do indeed suck, but, that is again something i live with ,

because
,

I have finally got a phone that will last 20+ hrs on a single charge and be usable for my needs for that entire time. And, down the line, should the battery fail or lose its ability to hold a good charge, I CAN BUY A NEW ONE and replace it myself.

Oh and as an added bonues, i can add an SD card to expand the storage for my music, which is all DRM free anyway, and , thanks to samsungs Keis app, just pulled my playlist from itunes and dropped it onto my phone.

My iPad is now where my iOS app consumption happens, i have no need anymore of my phone to run those apps.

 

[gimmeiphone]

all android issues aside, the deal breaker was being able to crisp bacon one the phones screen after a 5 min angry birds sesh, 3 firmware changes later, no change

 

[DanteMann]

You claimed to get an iPhone 4 and immediately made posts saying you were dissatisfied. You then [supposedly] sold your iPhone 4 within 2 weeks. Throughout this time, you've bashed Apple in EVERY post you've made and talked up the SG2 in EVERY post you've made. At best, you lack the ability to evaluate your own actions. This post reeks of hypocrisy.

I never once stated that I sold the iPhone. I didn't want to take the $ loss for such a new device. So for now, it's my back up phone. But never once did I call it a crappy phone. Although, the call quality is not what I would expect from a high end premium product. I'm not the only one to think it's call quality is average at absolute best. After all it is a phone, its number one purpose is placing calls and receiving calls. Coming upon the SGS2 was the best thing that could have happened. And when it comes time to upgrade, my next phone will be whatever happens to be the next best thing. And I won't care who makes it. I have no blind loyalty to any brand because that leads to stale products.

 

[Dmunjal]

I have both the iPhone 4 and the SGS2. When smartphones were a novelty, it took Apple to simplify the experience so average users could use the technology. But as these same users get more savvy, they'll want more from their phone and will start hitting the roadblocks erected by Apple's walled garden and closed system. The fact that so many here are even discussing Android as a viable option tells me that iOS and the iPhone 4 are missing some key features that some find useful. For me, it was about having a file system, widgets, and a larger screen. But for the majority of users who value simplicity and elegance over all else, nothing beats iOS.

 

[BlindMellon]

Android sucks. I could never leave iOS even if someone paid me. It has the best App Store ever, it's an extremely innovative and stable operating system, and it works seamlessly with my Mac and Airport network. A teacher I know has an Android device and he says that it crashes at least once every day, and it takes forever to turn on.

Sounds like you have really done YOUR homework!

haha, couldn't have set it better.

 

[TheBigKing]

just trade mi galaxy s2 for a black iphone 32 gb on baseband 1.59.00

 

[FX4568]

Okay, the only way someone would ever convince me to go back to android again is if they gave me a Nexus.
I want an OS that is updated CONSTANTLY without APP BUGS and a market that has QUALITY apps.

I used to be the kind of guy that would buy things because they looked good on paper.
After I bought my MBA 13, I realized that it is a combination of the OS and the house made for it.
Who gives a living crap if you have a 3D TV if you dont have 3D Glasses? No one! It actually looks like crap. That is what android is doing. They have 100000000 "fart apps" and compare it to the size of the App store which has less in quantity but excel quality wise. They have Dual core processors with LTE, but their phone lasts a good 3 hours.
I bought a GS1 because it looked awesome but guess what? a single bug fixing update comes every 12.3600646 lunar cycles (1 year) and it lags.

We are over the age where hardware must be the best. Now its the feel. If it works to all my needs, why would I care having a 5 Ghz processor?

 

[maclaptop]

In the end, I would hope peoples lives would be centered around LIFE, Family, and friends...not a company, or some foolish phone?

It's very refreshing to hear from someone like myself, that loves technology but doesn't live and breathe it to the detriment of everything else life has to offer. Especially family and friends.

Personally I like all platforms, just some appeal to me more than others. Yet that said, I would not limit myself to just one, due to the fact that I enjoy variety far too much to not stay on top of what's happening with Google, Apple, Microsoft etc. In my world staying on top, means owning, using, customizing and evaluating all the smartphone and computer goodness that's available to us today.

The only thing better would be for people to be reasonable and enjoy open pros and cons discussions, as opposed to all this hate, fear, anger, and fighting over who's got "the best".

There IS NO Best!

There's only what's best for you, so why bash someone else or fabricate negatives about the product they prefer, simply because you don't like it. (Using the word "You" generically)

Cheers

 

[mysterioustko]

Android could become a potential risk if they stopped with this releasing a phone every other week garbage. If Android and let's say Samsung came together and produced a top notch phone that runs FLAWLESSLY. No lag, no crashes, no bugs... nothing. Just a top of the line phone that FEELS like one while you are using it. Give the consumer no reason to change back to their previous device. Then... They would be a good contender to beat out Apple's iPhone.

Until then, the iPhone 4 is a much better device than anything out there right now... And the iPhone 5 will push Apple that much further ahead.

You do realize that Android is an operating system..not a manufacturer. Android does not come out with phones...Manufacturers come out with phones that use that particular OS. You wouldn't say Windows comes out with too many computers...It's the same concept. Stop comparing one phone (iphone) to every phone that has the same operating system because that makes no sense. They are not all created equal, just as every computer that runs Windows is not the same. Some manufacturers are better than others, some focus on higher end products and others focus on "affordable" products. If you want to make a comparison then pick a phone to compare it to, but to lump 80+ phones in the same category because they share an OS makes no sense and will never yield you a true comparison.