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So this finally happened. Sort of...

captainfamicom said:
I know this is a stretch, but since people have had good luck so far (in terms of performance), if you CAN get this to run on a G4, could you POTENTIALLY get it to run on the G3? (likely the only person here insane enough to use a G3 as their secondary computer :D)
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I'm going to test it on my 800 MHz iBook Dual USB here shortly.
 
captainfamicom said:
I know this is a stretch, but since people have had good luck so far (in terms of performance), if you CAN get this to run on a G4, could you POTENTIALLY get it to run on the G3? (likely the only person here insane enough to use a G3 as their secondary computer :D)
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My guess it would not - it would have to be compiled in a G3 environment - at least that's been the case with similar home grown projects?
 
Wanted to say : THANKS !
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And moreover, it's actually quite fast !
 
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Here's a generic workaround for the broken bookmarks. Export your TFF bookmarks to a html file. Put it somewhere safe. Now open AF's preferences and change the default home page to the directory your bookmarks.html resides. Now when you click the home button you you'll have access to those bookmarks.

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Cheers
 
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I copied the entire cookies file from TFF to ArcticFox. Now Google recognizes me and Google Drive is way more usable compared to TFF. I've edited some files in GoogleDocs, something that was quite difficult before. It's not perfect, but it helps in a GDocs oriented environment.
 
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Excellent work! This works great on every machine I've tried it on. Thanks!

Reading the README, I noticed this little tidbit: "Cant install add-ons / extensions easily (have to manually add to profile)"
When I try to do this and restart the browser, it just removes the addon from the profiles directory, so I don't think I'm doing this correctly. Is there a link somewhere that shows how to manually add addons/extensions? My google searches have turned up nothing.
 
Thanks. It's very hit or miss it seems. In ~/Library/Application Support/ArcticFox/Profiles/powerpc.default you'll see an /extensions folder. This is where i added grease monkey and ublock. Those worked, but in some of my testing other .xpi files i tossed in there did nothing upon restart, so your mileage may vary until i get all the kinks worked out.

Cheers
 
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wicknix said:
Thanks. It's very hit or miss it seems. In ~/Library/Application Support/ArcticFox/Profiles/powerpc.default you'll see an /extensions folder. This is where i added grease monkey and ublock. Those worked, but in some of my testing other .xpi files i tossed in there did nothing upon restart, so your mileage may vary until i get all the kinks worked out.

Cheers
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Got it. Thanks!
 
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@wicknix Good work doing this!

I'm curious about what TFx changesets you used to make it. There has to be portions from 24.x (or last aurorafox?) since this is relevant to pre-australis era, but some resources (browser chrome, default profile prefs) point to current TenFourFox.

What javascript backend does it use?

Considering this now contains parts from at least 4 forks of the same codebase (mozilla, TenFourFox, palemoon, arcticfox), should you call it FrankenFox?

I don't know if there's a short answer to my questions but feel free to answer however you can.

Anyway, well done!
 
Lol @ frankenfox! It certainly is! I'm not at home right now, but I believe the majority of the changesets I used from aurorafox 28? One of the last ones released anyway. Packaging was broken, so I had to build TFF also and manually copy some files over (chrome folder etc) to get the binary to run. This is more than likely the reason some of the xul files report weird things or are broken completely. If I can fix packaging, so the correct directories are copied over, I feel it'd fix a lot of things. Still surprised it even works. Somewhat. Lol.

Cheers
 
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wicknix said:
Is the web even tolerable at sub 400 mhz?
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Tolerable for any real web browsing? No, I would certainly avoid it. :) But this hack of Arctic Fox is the most capable (and performant) option so far.

...Plus I needed to setup a temporary WEP 'secured' network via Internet Sharing from another Mac just to get the old 802.11b-only Macs online. But a fun test nonetheless.

On a side note... I was able to recommend Arctic Fox to a perfect stranger who was running Snow Leopard on a MBP 15" Unibody 2008. I helped him get AF all setup and then he asked if the Mac could be be updated to a later OS... So El Cap went on there and he had the latest Firefox proper... but at least the word is being spread! :cool:
 
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AphoticD said:
On a side note... I was able to recommend Arctic Fox to a perfect stranger who was running Snow Leopard on a MBP 15" Unibody 2008. I helped him get AF all setup and then he asked if the Mac could be be updated to a later OS... So El Cap went on there and he had the latest Firefox proper... but at least the word is being spread! :cool:
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Day in the life...
 
I also gave this build a shot and I have to say that I'm very pleased with how it runs (running on my PowerBook 5,8 now on 10.5). It really seems to be a bit faster than TenFourFox and comparable to WebKit speeds. One thing I noticed is that I can't login into ArcticFox Sync which would be really nice since I started using ArcticFox on my older MacBooks as well and have got some data on the sync server. Other than that a great new browser for PowerPC systems, it handled every site flawlessly that I have thrown at it in the last days. Please continue with the ArcticFox on PPC project wicknix :)
 
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netsrot39 said:
Please continue with the ArcticFox on PPC project wicknix :)
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I agree. PowerProgress has confirmed that they do in fact compile all builds (including Arctic Fox) on their PPC64 Debian server, so a manual compile on Debian won't do anything. I don't recall there being any issues with .14, so an update to .16 might fix the issue with PPC64 Arctic Fox.
 
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I'm just an end user commenting in case it adds anything to the work on the browser. I'm not a programmer at all. Congratulations on such fast browser on our old machines.

I have a MacBookPro5.1 with an Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.53 GHz bought around 2009 with Snow Leopard. 10.6.8. I upgraded the ram to 8GB with OWC memory, and got rid of the internal superdrive to add a second hard drive with an OWC upgrade. I moved the original HDD that came with it to the old superdrive location and replaced the main drive with an OWC SSD 480 GB. Big performance boost with that SSD.

I've kept it on Snow Leopard all the way through to today because it was amazingly stable and I heard bad things from others who had upgraded their OS's. When I finally realized I was going to need a more modern OS for some things, instead of changing anything, I formatted a bootable external 180 GB OWC SSD with El Capitan, the most modern OS approved by Apple to run on this computer. So I have in effect two computers. I boot up to Snow Leopard for 95% of what I still do, including browsing. If I need the more modern OS, I just boot up from the external drive. Very elegant, and zero complications. El Capitan runs quite well.

But I still do most of my browsing in Snow Leopard. Aside from Tor, which is up-to-date but very slow, my un-updated Chrome and Firefox are sloooow and crashing now, a lot. Especially Chrome. Safari is defunct. Stainless does only a couple of things. Opera is okay, not great. Roccat became useless.

So it was with great interest that I learned about Arctic Fox. Downloaded 64 bit 10.6 and up version and fired it up. Did not import any old settings or bookmarks. WOW. What a contrast. Lightning fast and, frankly, a better browser experience in terms of speed than any I've used since 2009. Even a site like Salon, which drowns me in videos and pop-ups, was very fast to scroll and move around in. For about 20 minutes, I was in heaven.

Then everything crashed. Gone. So, I restarted the browser, restored the tabs. Soon crashed again. Now it only goes maybe five minutes between crashes. Re-booting does nothing to help. I have no add-ons at all. The constant crashing makes it barely usable. I can't have a 2000 word email crash. I know this was an early build and so buggy, but I thought I'd let you know my experience in case this was some clue that might help you to stabilize it.

When it runs, it's amazing. Totally primo. I'd kill or pay to get a stable version of it.

Just one man's story ...
 
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Thanks for the input. The PPC version is very much in the early stages. The snow leopard version however is pretty time tested. Odd you are experiencing multiple crashes. It's generally pretty stable. Can i offer a suggestion to try? Delete ~/Library/Application Support/ArcticFox folder... download the 32-bit version (supports the good old browser plugins better than the 64-bit version).... Then install an ad blocker right away. I prefer ublock origin: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/r...ox-legacy-1.16.4.8/uBlock0.firefox-legacy.xpi Let me know if this helps any.

Cheers
 
This is pleasantly snappy (noticeably more so than TenFourFox) on my PowerBook DLSD. So far, alpha/nightly or not, this is destined to be my go-to browser for the next little while. I’ll be happy to report bugginess here, if that helps at all.

Bugginess instances so far:
  • When typing a password for the standard Twitter web interface, the browser is responsive to keystrokes for the Username/email field, but not responsive in the Password field (i.e., it is not possible to log onto Twitter via ArcticFox at this time); this occurs even when all add-ons are disabled
 
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