Thanks. I've noticed this as well on a couple sites. In the meantime, if you aren't familiar with these, give them a try for a workaround. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/facebook-and-twitter-apps-for-tiger-leopard.2104852/
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Thanks. I've noticed this as well on a couple sites. In the meantime, if you aren't familiar with these, give them a try for a workaround. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/facebook-and-twitter-apps-for-tiger-leopard.2104852/
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Ok, so there are multiple ways to watch youtube on our ppc macs, but how about easy downloading? Here's a simple solution. In Arctic Fox, open about:config, search "useragent", locate the youtube.com override, double click it, erase the default UA and type or paste @Dronecatcher 's user agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows Phone 8.0; Trident/6.0; IEMobile/10.0; ARM; Touch) in the box and click "OK".
Now go to youtube.com. You'll get a mobile version of the site. Find a video, click the HQ button if you want 360p downloads, then click "watch video" link. Arctic Fox will download the video rather than play it. Once it completes your default media player will begin playing the video.
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Now go to youtube.com. You'll get a mobile version of the site. Find a video, click the HQ button if you want 360p downloads, then click "watch video" link. Arctic Fox will download the video rather than play it. Once it completes your default media player will begin playing the video.
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Amazing. YouTube videos are playing on my 300MHz iBook G3 Clamshell now with Tiger 10.4.11 and 576MB of memory. Well done!
A little (or possibly big thing) to make it that bit better though is if you can mod the 3GPP file extension to just send it to QuickTime as it currently downloads the entire video before opening up in QuickTime after.
Also this is almost trivial but it could be cool if upon opening the dock auto hides when an ArticFox window is active.
But if you copy the link location and open from URL in QuickTime, it can stream it. - Obviously for now you can just do that but it would be awesome if you could click it and QuickTime opens.
This is still quite a feat. Well done!
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Amazing. YouTube videos are playing on my 300MHz iBook G3 Clamshell now with Tiger 10.4.11 and 576MB of memory. Well done!
A little (or possibly big thing) to make it that bit better though is if you can mod the 3GPP file extension to just send it to QuickTime as it currently downloads the entire video before opening up in QuickTime after.
Also this is almost trivial but it could be cool if upon opening the dock auto hides when an ArticFox window is active.
But if you copy the link location and open from URL in QuickTime, it can stream it. - Obviously for now you can just do that but it would be awesome if you could click it and QuickTime opens.
This is still quite a feat. Well done!
Pics (the other ones you posted are quite nice) or it didn't happen. Or, better yet, youtube video of it actually happening. Dronecatcher had a "how low can you go?" thread awhile back, I think he got under 300mhz but I can't recall. And I'm too lazy to search for that thread now. And, its amazing that in 2019 PPC macs under 1ghz can STILL do youtube.
Thank you. What a great way to save videos in any version of Arctic Fox.
I love Arctic Fox for PPC1 It loads so fast and so smooth on my 1.67 Ghz PowerMac G4 with Leopard. If the bookmarks were only fixed, I'd use it all the time. What are the chances of that feature being fixed?
Hey @wicknix I just got around really letting this browser stretch its legs, and I do have to say, that even in its alpha-ish state, it is easily the most "usable" browser available for Tiger. As always, great work! I wish I had the aptitude to develop a browser. I'd help, if I could.
@wicknix: Just wanted to say I finally tried this out on my Graphite G4 500 MHz running Tiger, and it does seem to run quite nicely! Probably a bit better than even an optimized TenFourFox too.
I didn't do too much digging, but did you implement a bunch of eyoungren's tweaks to speed up browsing too? I saw uMatrix up there.
I didn't do too much digging, but did you implement a bunch of eyoungren's tweaks to speed up browsing too? I saw uMatrix up there.
Nope. No speed tweaks. Pretty much stock preferences with stock adblock/script block extensions added for convenience.
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I may be wrong as far as Arctic Fox goes, but Pale Moon (AF's base) already comes with a tweaked about:config, and strongly encourages users not to change anything because Firefox tweaks do not necessarily translate to Pale Moon tweaks in the same way.
I screwed my install up by applying some Firefox tweaks, and haven't been back there since. - For the record, I think it's plenty fast already. Definitely faster than Firefox, or at least TenFourFox.
While in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this.
Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway, loop, and updater to name a few). The result... nostalgic look, faster start, less memory usage, and it's quite fast without all that garbage running in the background.
No code added or removed. Just branding icons and edits to change name and disable services & bundled extensions.
Give it a spin. You may like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1jd0d3ZZpLJYIm6iCQ26sD3TMwTLKPm/view?usp=sharing
This build is not affiliated with Floodgap Systems or Hyperbola.
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Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway, loop, and updater to name a few). The result... nostalgic look, faster start, less memory usage, and it's quite fast without all that garbage running in the background.
No code added or removed. Just branding icons and edits to change name and disable services & bundled extensions.
Give it a spin. You may like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1jd0d3ZZpLJYIm6iCQ26sD3TMwTLKPm/view?usp=sharing
This build is not affiliated with Floodgap Systems or Hyperbola.
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While in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this.
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Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway, loop, and updater to name a few). The result... nostalgic look, faster start, less memory usage, and it's quite fast without all that garbage running in the background.
No code added or removed. Just branding icons and edits to change name and disable services & bundled extensions.
Give it a spin. You may like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1jd0d3ZZpLJYIm6iCQ26sD3TMwTLKPm/view?usp=sharing
This build is not affiliated with Floodgap Systems or Hyperbola.
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Cool stuff, thanks a lot, I'll check it out the next time I'm using my PowerBook. Could you maybe compile this for Intel? I'm looking for an updated TFF version for Snow Leopard (the latest I have is FPR10) – I know ArcticFox is way better for Snow Leopard but for some websites I still prefer TFF.
Hi. Thanks so much for your reply. I downloaded the 32 bit version and ublock and installed both. Stability seems maybe a bit better than the 64 bit version, but not by much. Still regular crashes. Although if I am on the right websites, I can get long sessions without any crashes which is satisfying. But I would never compose a long email with ArcticFox in case it crashed.
I found a website article on gentrification that insta-crashes both 32 and 64 bit ArcticFox browsers over and over in case that gives you any clues. Absolutely cannot read this article with ArcticFox.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...sity-housing-maps-raleigh-gentrification.html
As a final wrinkle, I had some weird flicker and freeze in the TOR browser, and in checking what it might be, someone suggested my memory RAM might be going bad. I had upgraded from 4 GB to 8 GB for my MacBookPro 5,1 using some OWC RAM modules about five years ago and was never much impressed with the performance. On running an Apple Hardware test I got the following message: "4MEM/9/40000000: 0xa9940618" I contacted OWC but they said if any RAM was bad it would not be seen and would sound beeps when I turned it on. They suggested I run Rember to test it again.
So, I tried reseating the RAM modules first, and got a big improvement in performance, so I thought I had properly seated them. Surprise! Only only DIMM 4GB module was recognized. One was totally unnseated. So I got a huge performance bump from knocking out one DIMM!! Reseated again, got both recognized, but puter slower. And I ran Rember and got another error message:
FAILURE! Data mismatch at local address 0x00000002264e7398
Actual Data: 0x00000002244e7398
I mention all this because when I reseated My 8GB of OWC RAM and accidentally did not seat one and had only 4GB running, browsers worked much faster than before. Including ArcticFox. A clue? Who knows?
If this is all too irritating to respond to, don't worry about it. But you seem to know everything about this stuff, including the old gear and how to work with it. So this is just FYI.
Much obliged. Even a crashy ArcticFox is great.
Thanks for the build, @wicknixWhile in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this.
View attachment 837275
Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway, loop, and updater to name a few). The result... nostalgic look, faster start, less memory usage, and it's quite fast without all that garbage running in the background.
No code added or removed. Just branding icons and edits to change name and disable services & bundled extensions.
Give it a spin. You may like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1jd0d3ZZpLJYIm6iCQ26sD3TMwTLKPm/view?usp=sharing
This build is not affiliated with Floodgap Systems or Hyperbola.
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I noticed that it tends to get hung up on ads from time to time, so I installed ublock, and it really flies! No bugs to speak of so far, aside from the fact that youtube is non-functional, but I wasn't really expecting that to work anyway lol.
Edit - recaptcha appears to be having a fit, though. When trying to post on another forum this morning, I was prompted to solve 8 captchas in order to pass. I gave up at that point. This is a problem I've always had with TFF.
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While in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this.
View attachment 837275
Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway, loop, and updater to name a few). The result... nostalgic look, faster start, less memory usage, and it's quite fast without all that garbage running in the background.
No code added or removed. Just branding icons and edits to change name and disable services & bundled extensions.
Give it a spin. You may like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1jd0d3ZZpLJYIm6iCQ26sD3TMwTLKPm/view?usp=sharing
This build is not affiliated with Floodgap Systems or Hyperbola.
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Great work, wicknix. Very fast.
For future reference, why not use this icon instead? It's less blurry than what's included.
Another suggestion, since there are already native versions of Iceweasel for PPC, why not just call it "Iceweasel" as opposed to "IceWeasel-PPC"? Simplifies the naming conventions, too.
This just reminded me to look forward to all the tweaked, slimmed, and optimized builds of TenFourFox when the last version rolls out.
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Why is it that Kaiser leaves TFF as bloated as it is? I'm genuinely curious, and I assume he has a good reason for it. However, @wicknix's work is evidence of the fact that it can be optimized.Great work, wicknix. Very fast.
This just reminded me to look forward to all the tweaked, slimmed, and optimized builds of TenFourFox when the last version rolls out.
For what it's worth, he does a lot of optimizing as is. Language-specific versions, processor-specific builds, and of course all the Altivec work done over the years.
Perhaps he just wants TFF to be as close to modern Firefox as possible. Or because TFF is the poster child of "PowerPC Browser", he doesn't want to risk removing certain features and services / components only for a couple people to be negatively affected as a result.
I understand where he's coming from. It's good to provide a base build, if at least for a standard of reference to later build upon. That way, we still end up getting spinoff projects from the community, like this new Iceweasel endeavor. Win-win.
Yeah, it does lay a proper ground work for others to build on later. That is true.For what it's worth, he does a lot of optimizing as is. Language-specific versions, processor-specific builds, and of course all the Altivec work done over the years.
Perhaps he just wants TFF to be as close to modern Firefox as possible. Or because TFF is the poster child of "PowerPC Browser", he doesn't want to risk removing certain features and services / components only for a couple people to be negatively affected as a result.
I understand where he's coming from. It's good to provide a base build, if at least for a standard of reference to later build upon. That way, we still end up getting spinoff projects from the community, like this new Iceweasel endeavor. Win-win.
I think @z970mp is probably right. They made huge strides with jit, Altivec etc, then hampered it with not disabling things that are mostly useless or are now dead features. So I agree that "completeness" would be their reason.
The good news is it only takes 5 minutes to edit 3 files to disable everything useless like i did. Now I'm really curious as I built for a G3, no G4/G5 optimizations. I wonder how much quicker it'd be then?
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The good news is it only takes 5 minutes to edit 3 files to disable everything useless like i did. Now I'm really curious as I built for a G3, no G4/G5 optimizations. I wonder how much quicker it'd be then?
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The suspense is killing me
What would you estimate the difference in IPC is vs a G3? Does Altivec really help that much?
@OzWiz : I can confirm that page knocks arctic fox out, and palemoon 27, and firefox 48. Chrome however is fine. Go figure eh? The rest of nytimes.com i browsed was fine however. That's the first page i myself ever encountered a crash. Since it knocks out 2 other browsers i don't feel too worried about it. Could just be a coding error on that specific page. As for your ram issue, yeah, that doesn't seem right, and would cause erratic behavior. If you removed 1 stick and it ran faster and more stable, then i'd say you have a hardware issue somewhere. It could be a bad solder joint in the socket, could be bad ram, or the wrong type of ram. Hardware issues are hard to pinpoint and i wish you luck.
@sparty411 : Benchmarks would say yes, but i haven't really noticed much via the naked eye.
@netsrot39 : I'm not too interested in an intel build. This was just something i did to take my mind off of AF4PPC for awhile. You can build intel TFF with macports though as it's now in the ports tree.
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@sparty411 : Benchmarks would say yes, but i haven't really noticed much via the naked eye.
@netsrot39 : I'm not too interested in an intel build. This was just something i did to take my mind off of AF4PPC for awhile. You can build intel TFF with macports though as it's now in the ports tree.
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I think optimization is not Kaisers main concern as Kaisers main machine(s) are G5s and fast G4s. He builds for Tiger to maintain Classic compatibility. He's moved on to a Talos machine and Fedora PPC these days. Without Kaiser I think we can all agree we'd have been lost when it comes to a browser since about 2010. Oh, and also Tobias Netzel who sorta continues to update Leopard webkit. And now, to that list we can add wicknix. The miracles just never cease on PPC OS X.
Those guys are wayyyyyy more knowledgeable than me. I'm just a beer drinking biker metal head hobbyist who enjoys his old Macs. I'm in no way in their league, but i appreciate the mention.
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Don't sell yourself short. You've done great work on these browsers!Those guys are wayyyyyy more knowledgeable than me. I'm just a beer drinking biker metal head hobbyist who enjoys his old Macs. I'm in no way in their league, but i appreciate the mention.
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While in Tiger messing with AF4PPC, i took a break and did this.
View attachment 837275
Debian killed off IceWeasel branding back in 2017. Well now it's back in the form of TFF FPR13 with IW branding. However i disabled all unneeded junk (webrtc, safe browsing, maintenance service, webapp runtime, pocket, shumway, loop, and updater to name a few). The result... nostalgic look, faster start, less memory usage, and it's quite fast without all that garbage running in the background.
No code added or removed. Just branding icons and edits to change name and disable services & bundled extensions.
Give it a spin. You may like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s1jd0d3ZZpLJYIm6iCQ26sD3TMwTLKPm/view?usp=sharing
This build is not affiliated with Floodgap Systems or Hyperbola.
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So wait a sec: is this the ArcticFox PPC 27.9.15 build you posted earlier in this thread, but “re-skinned”, as it were?