so, was notchgate overblown?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Italianblend, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. Italianblend macrumors 68000


    Mar 21, 2011
    Haven't seen many complaints about notch since it was released. Do the X users like the notch?
  2. Menel macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
  3. edtorious macrumors 65816


    Aug 14, 2007
    San Diego, California
    Have you read the reviews? Most of the reviewers Cons are the 'Notch'. Until the app developers update or design their apps to conform with the 'notch' design, most of the reviewers said the 'notch' is ugly. I was hoping I can get used to it and maybe not notice it but if these reviewers are not happy about it, I'm worried.
  4. ARizz44 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 28, 2015
    Chicago, IL
    Literally, no bs, every first impression video I have watched, or review I’ve read, blasts the notch. Look at this. Here is an example of an app not optimized for the X. It is smaller than the 8 Display lol.
    Read the Design and Display sections in this review:
    Read in this review “Most Likely to Annoy You” section of this article. They mistakingly compare it to the 8 Plus vs 8. But that’s an obvious error.
  5. wittyphrase macrumors regular

    Jan 6, 2017
    New York
    I have a hard time believing anyone who says they "like" the notch, and I've seen a fair amount of that from people getting themselves hyped for the phone. You can certainly not be too bothered by it. I understand accepting it or viewing Apple's decision to embrace it as the best option. But I can't wrap my head around anyone saying they specifically like having a portion of the screen blocked.
  6. borgqueenx macrumors 65816

    Jul 16, 2010
    no one likes the notch, but it certainly is acceptable....
    I just hope they will fix it for safari in landscape because boy that looks ugly.
  7. malevolant macrumors 6502

    Jun 23, 2010
    Boston, MA
    There won't be any apps optimized for the X until the X actually launches
  8. nia820 macrumors 68020


    Jun 27, 2011
    Even though I brought the iPhone x, I'm still not crazy about the notch. I still think it's fugly. But it's something I have to just learn to accept since apple won't be changing this design for a while.
  9. edtorious macrumors 65816


    Aug 14, 2007
    San Diego, California

    "And, of course, there’s the notch in the display — what Apple calls the “sensor housing.” It’s ugly, but it tends to fade away after a while in portrait mode. It’s definitely intrusive in landscape, though. It makes landscape in general pretty messy. Less ignorable are the bezels around the sides and bottom of the screen, which are actually quite large. Getting rid of almost everything tends to draw attention to what remains, and what remains here is basically a thick black border all the way around the screen, with that notch set into the top.

    I personally think the iPhone 4 is the most beautiful phone of all time, and I’d say the iPhone X is in third place in the iPhone rankings after that phone and the original model. It’s a huge step up from the surfboard design we’ve been living with since the iPhone 6, but it definitely lacks the character of Apple’s finest work. And… it has that notch.

    Unfortunately, the top of the display is marred by that notch, and until a lot of developers do a lot of work to design around it, it’s going to be hard to get the most out of this screen. I mean that literally: a lot of apps don’t use most of the screen right now.

    Apps that haven’t been updated for the iPhone X run in what you might call “software bezel” mode: huge black borders at the top and bottom that basically mimic the iPhone 8. And a lot of apps aren’t updated yet: Google Maps and Calendar, Slack, the Delta app, Spotify, and more all run with software bezels. Games like CSR Racing and Sonic the Hedgehoglooked particularly silly. It’s fine, but it’s ugly, especially since the home bar at the bottom of the screen glows white in this mode.

    Apps that haven’t been specifically updated for the iPhone X, but use Apple’s iOS autolayout system will fill the screen, but wacky things happen: Dark Sky blocks out half the status bar with a hardcoded black bar of its own, Uber puts your account icon over the battery indicator, and the settings in the Halide camera app get obscured by the notch and partially tucked into the display’s bunny ears. It almost looks right, but then you realize it’s actually just broken.

    Apps that have been updated for the iPhone X all have different ways of dealing with the notch that sometimes lead to strange results, especially in apps that play video. Instagram Stories don’t fill the screen; they have large gray borders on the top and bottom. YouTube only has two full-screen zoom options, so playing the Last Jedi trailer resulted in either a small video window surrounded by letter- and pillar-boxing or a full-screen view with the notch obscuring the left side of the video. Netflix is slightly better, but you’re still stuck choosing between giant black borders around your video or the notch.

    Landscape mode on the iPhone X is generally pretty messy: the notch goes from being a somewhat forgettable element in the top status bar to a giant interruption on the side of the screen, and I haven’t seen any apps really solve for it yet. And the home bar at the bottom of the screen often sits over the top of content, forever reminding you that you can swipe to go home and exit the chaos of landscape mode forever.

    I’m sure all of this will get solved over time, but recent history suggests it might take longer than Apple or anyone would like; I still encounter apps that aren’t updated for the larger iPhone 6 screen sizes. 3D Touch has been around for years, but I can’t think of any app that makes particularly good use of it. Apple’s rolled out a lot of screen design changes over the years, and they take a while to settle in. We’ll just have to see how it goes with the iPhone X."

    Now I'm worried.
  10. DMVillain macrumors 6502a

    Jul 20, 2011
    It depends on how long it takes developers to optimize their apps. If it’s anhthing like when we went from the 4s to 5 or 5s to 6/6+, we’re in for a long winter of s****y letterboxes apps.
  11. saltd macrumors 6502a


    Aug 1, 2010
    The notch is a compromise for sure, but it was mostly to make people feel better about buying the 8/8+ instead of waiting. A “gate” situation implies that something unexpected surfaced and sabotaged the utility of the device. The antennagate was a good example of this. You couldn’t have known, before people started using the phone, that holding the phone “wrong” would caused weak reception.

    The notch, on the other hand, is an obvious design choice that anyone can choose to avoid if they don’t like it. It’s not some type of scandal, and Apple will not be handing out cases to hide the notch. People will get used to it.
  12. Newtons Apple, Oct 31, 2017
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    Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    The Notch thing was like the red dot on the Apple Watch crown. People were claiming they would will kill over the red dot and now if you go to the AW forum, not a single word about it. The notch will be the same.
  13. Aibocyrus macrumors 6502a


    May 26, 2015
    There’s a difference between liking the notch and not caring about the notch. For me, I don’t care. Never said I liked it, but also never said I hated it.
    All the reviews I’ve seen so far have all said it is no big deal after using the phone for a few minutes.
    I honestly think it will just fade into the foreground when using the phone.

    I think others need to just let it go in regards to whether other people mind the notch or not. People being ok with it doesn’t affect anyone else. Just drop it lol
  14. billycuth macrumors 6502a

    Jul 31, 2010
    Considering it hasn't been released yet... um...

    Personally, I am over the notch. I don't understand the design decision, but it wasn't going to prevent me from ordering the phone.
  15. boast macrumors 65816


    Nov 12, 2007
    Phoenix, USA
    You prefer thicker bezels like the Samsung S8? I prefer having more screen, which is what the notch provides.
  16. ascender macrumors 68020


    Dec 8, 2005
    I think its going to suck quite a bit until the third party apps get updated and developers get their heads around how best to to deal with it to be honest. I suspect in a lot of use-cases you'll just accept it and quickly won't even notice its there.
  17. LarrySmith macrumors regular


    Jun 26, 2017
    Hope so. I was one of those against the red crown but I have the watch and haven't cared about it one bit. My X arrives Friday and I doubt the notch ruins it for me.
  18. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    Agreed. Had my AW3 BSS since day one and do not think I even noticed the red dot but a few times.
  19. Mabus51 macrumors 65816

    Aug 16, 2007
    I don’t see a difference with having the notch in an unusable section of the screen anyway. It’s on the status bar line of a regular iPhone which isn’t used by apps. The only time I see it being intrusive is when watching a video that is zoomed in. You can zoom out of all videos from the evidence I’ve seen. Aside from that I don’t even watch videos on my phone. I have a TV for that and a 12.9 iPad Pro if I’m on the go. If the notch really bugs you, there is the iPhone 8 which is just as capable as the X so Apple gave people options no one is forcing the notch or X on anyone that doesn’t want it.
  20. weezerr macrumors regular

    Nov 7, 2006
    Would you guys have preferred they just black out the entire top? It gives you more usable space for the vast majority of phone operations and is an elegant design choice to hide the static display icons.

    I do think it is a little silly that playing videos extends past the notch.
  21. AttilaTheHun macrumors 65816


    Feb 18, 2010
    Apple can solve it very easy by software just darken the whole top a
  22. laptech macrumors 6502


    Apr 26, 2013
    The notch will become a problem if current apps do not display properly thereby forcing app developers to produce two apps, one for the X and one for all the other iphones.

    Basically it comes down to the app developer, develop for fun or money, if it's for money then it's a case of make one app that works across multiple models of iphones. If your app is restricted to just one model of iphone then your revenue stream is severely restricted.
  23. pat500000 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2015
  24. bambooshots macrumors 65816


    Jul 25, 2013

    Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming.

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