So what would happen to the average iPhone user who upgraded to the Galaxy S8/+

[darksithpro]

So I have a hypothesis on what would happen to the average iPhone user who would upgrade to Samsung's latest smartphone, the S8, or S8+.

1. Instant love affair: With It's lack of bezels and curved edges it would be love at first sight. An infatuation of all the features and technology.

2. Amazement with the over-saturated laminated AMOLED screen. The colors and brightness would bring the user to awe and excitement.

3. The wireless charging and waterproofing is so damn cool. Everyone would be idolizing your phone with jealousy.

Here's where things go south...

4. It's been a while and I haven't received any updates. Google just released their newest OS update and Samsung said 2 months ago it's coming soon. But when?

5. I miss hand-off and the Apple ecosystem. The ecosystem is so completely different from my MacBook and iPad. There's no consistency and compatibility with my other devices. None of my Apple app and music purchases work with Android.

6. Samsung just released another flagship phone and I still haven't received the newest OS. There's been a few zero days and I'm kinda worried, but some users on the Android forums says it's coming in the next 6 months...

7. Time to sell my S8, but the re-sale value is so low and no one wants to buy it. If only I had an iPhone I could get probably double.


Haha, a little biased, but I tried my best. This was just a humor post, g'night all...

 

[44267547]

There's no doubt the galaxy S8 is a really nice phone and it's going to do really well. I think the S8 offers a lot in terms of hardware of what Samsung released this year. The biggest adjustments I have been reading so far about the S8 is the remapped fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone and the sheer size of it, with the models offering 5.8 and 6.2. But it's a beautiful phone.

But I think if you are someone that is heavily investing into Apple's ecosystem, it's not an easy change to transition over to the S8. Also one thing that doesn't change about the Galaxy series is the bloatware. But overall, the question you have to ask is does the aesthetic appeal of the S8 eventually wear off when you have a true appreciation for Apple's iOS and user interface.

In terms of resale, I feel the iPhone actually has the edge being how popular they are even after so many years used. However, both Phones have their advantages and disadvantages in my opinion.

 

[darksithpro]

But overall, the question you have to ask is does the aesthetic appeal of the S8 eventually wear off when you have a true appreciation for Appl's iOS and user interface.

And that's when the Apple users who buy that phone in the end will learn they're heavily invested in Apple products ecosystem. Once the appeal wears off they're going to regret their purchase and come back to Apple. It's like a 6 month relationship with a hot girl/guy that was never meant to be. It was so much fun while it lasted, but not bring home to mom material.

 

[44267547]

And that's when the Apple users who buy that phone in the end will learn they're heavily invested in Apple products ecosystem. Once the appeal wears off they're going to regret their purchase and come back to Apple. It's like a 6 month relationship with a hot girl/guy that was never meant to be. It was so much fun while it lasted, but not bring home to mom material.

I think that's an interesting analogy, but yes, I would agree with you that Samsung has very tempting hardware and they are always making some really nice altered features on their new phones. But I do think that wears off after a while for someone that's not used to their OS coming from Apple, which eventually will set in once they get to know The operating system of their likes/dislikes.

 

[Ixon2001]

Samsung bring a flagship out every 6 Months Galaxy range in Spring & the Note range in Autumn, While the S8 will get Android O it will take a few months before it's released then another few months before everybody get's it ie Simfree & Carrier versions.

Also Samsung have an habit of putting their past flagship on the back burner, so those that decide to stick with the S7 & Edge will have to wait even longer before seeing Android O or anymore updates before Android O.

The S8 will suffer the same fate to some degree once the Note 8 is on the market later this year, updates to the S8 will slow down, the Note 8 will be the first to get Android O followed by the S8 then the S7 the S6 will probably not see it.

 

[Shanghaichica]

So I have a hypothesis on what would happen to the average iPhone user who would upgrade to Samsung's latest smartphone, the S8, or S8+.

1. Instant love affair: With It's lack of bezels and curved edges it would be love at first sight. An infatuation of all the features and technology.

2. Amazement with the over-saturated laminated AMOLED screen. The colors and brightness would bring the user to awe and excitement.

3. The wireless charging and waterproofing is so damn cool. Everyone would be idolizing your phone with jealousy.

Here's where things go south...

4. It's been a while and I haven't received any updates. Google just released their newest OS update and Samsung said 2 months ago it's coming soon. But when?

5. I miss hand-off and the Apple ecosystem. The ecosystem is so completely different from my MacBook and iPad. There's no consistency and compatibility with my other devices. None of my Apple app and music purchases work with Android.

6. Samsung just released another flagship phone and I still haven't received the newest OS. There's been a few zero days and I'm kinda worried, but some users on the Android forums says it's coming in the next 6 months...

7. Time to sell my S8, but the re-sale value is so low and no one wants to buy it. If only I had an iPhone I could get probably double.


Haha, a little biased, but I tried my best. This was just a humor post, g'night all...

Some people didn't care about getting updates.

But yes all of the 'negative' reasons you list are mainly why I probably won't get the S8. I could get it and keep my iPhone 7+ but I wonder how much use I'd get out of it. I tried last year to use the S7 edge alongside my iPhone 6S+ and I just found that it was surplus to requirements. It was a great phone but it just didn't fit in with my ecosystem (iPhone,iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and MacBook). It felt like I was making an effort to use it.
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I think that's an interesting analogy, but yes, I would agree with you that Samsung has very tempting hardware and they are always making some really nice altered features on their new phones. But I do think that wears off after a while for someone that's not used to their OS coming from Apple, which eventually will set in once they get to know The operating system of their likes/dislikes.

There's nothing wrong with android/ touch wiz. I used it for 2.5 years but I just prefer iOS and how all my devices work together.

 

[44267547]

Some people didn't care about getting updates.

But yes all of the 'negative' reasons you list are mainly why I probably won't get the S8. I could get it and keep my iPhone 7+ but I wonder how much use I'd get out of it. I tried last year to use the S7 edge alongside my iPhone 6S+ and I just found that it was surplus to requirements. It was a great phone but it just didn't fit in with my ecosystem (iPhone,iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and MacBook). It felt like I was making an effort to use it.
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There's nothing wrong with android/ touch wiz. I used it for 2.5 years but I just prefer iOS and how all my devices work together.

I never indicated there is something wrong with Android. It's just a matter of adjustment and preference. And as I mentioned earlier, Apple's ecosystem is huge for those who cross platform from different Apple products. I used Android for years, but would never go back. I am heavily invested into Apple's ecosystem through many of their products. My laptop was my latest purchase.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I never indicated there is something wrong with Android. It's just a matter of adjustment and preference. And as I mentioned earlier, Apple's ecosystem is huge for those who cross platform from different Apple products.

Oh I agree which is why I won't switch. If I thought I could get any use out of the S8+ using it alongside my 7+ then I would get it but I couldn't make it work with the S7 edge last year so I doubt I could this year either sadly.

 

[44267547]

Oh I agree which is why I won't switch. If I thought I could get any use out of the S8+ using it alongside my 7+ then I would get it but I couldn't make it work with the S7 edge last year so I doubt I could this year either sadly.

The S8 is a stellar looking device. I really want to test the S8 Plus. I'm also curious to see what the Note 8 will hold when it debuts.

 

[The Game 161]

those who upgrade their phone each year updates won't matter though

S8 is fantastic but it's not IOS for me and i loved using the s8 plus that my dad just ordered but i need to know most of those features such as OLED,wireless charging and facial and iris scanning is coming later this year..so the features i would miss is coming this year with the new iPhone

If you look at my signature you can see why i can't switch.

 

[joeblow7777]

A lot of iPhone users might be better off for learning that there's life outside of Apple, and Android isn't as scary as they've been led to believe.

 

[The Game 161]

A lot of iPhone users might be better off for learning that there's life outside of Apple, and Android isn't as scary as they've been led to believe.

I think many have tried android but just isn't for them.

 

[joeblow7777]

I think many have tried android but just isn't for them.

Many have tried it, but most? Probably not. Most people tend to stick with what they're familiar with. I don't blame people. If you're happy with what you have there's no need to keep looking. I just feel that a lot of the fears that people have about other platforms (it goes both ways) are usually blown out of proportion.

 

[Johns12]

I jumped ship last December, purchasing an S7E.. No problems so far. I don't really miss anything. I guess I wasn't that invested in the Apple ecosystem. Strangely, everything I own is Apple, 2 Mac Pros for work, MacBook Pro, my wife's IPad and IPhone 6 which was mine.

 

[AlliFlowers]

8. It's been a year and I still don't know how to do the things on Android that people said make it better than iOS - unless I root it.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Many have tried it, but most? Probably not. Most people tend to stick with what they're familiar with. I don't blame people. If you're happy with what you have there's no need to keep looking. I just feel that a lot of the fears that people have about other platforms (it goes both ways) are usually blown out of proportion.

Ok I will admit that I was one of those who wanted to stick with iOS and would never have given android the time of day. However, after my iPhone 4 was stolen in 2012 I bought a cheap Samsung galaxy phone which I only intended to use for 2 months until my upgrade was due. The plan was to upgrade to the 4S. Well I was pleasantly surprised at how decent android was as I foolishly thought it was rubbish. I decided not to upgrade to the 4S and bought the original galaxy note instead. I used android phones, tablets and even a chromebook for the next 2.5 years before coming back to the iPhone in 2014. So I think I gave android a good go and when I say I won't switch back I can't be accused of not being familiar with it or not being willing to go outside of my comfort zone. Even since I came back to the iPhone I've had 2 android phones as secondary phones so I'm still very familiar with it.

I think for me when Apple brought out the plus iPhone the advantages of android were diminished. I didn't need to use an android phone to have a phablet. The 1080p resolution on the plus is good enough for me. The battery life on the plus iPhones are good enough which means that I don't need a removable battery (these are a dying breed now). I also like the fact that I can get an iPhone with at least 128Gb of storage which negates the need for an SD card slot.

Additionally, I like the way all my Apple devices work together. I tried to do the same when I had android devices but they didn't work together in the same way as my Apple devices do. In fact they functioned as separate units, even when I had say a tablet and a phone made by the manufacturer.

 

[eyoungren]

You make a number of points on the negative, so let me ask this.

What about those who have iPhones but are not invested in the ecosystem?

Everything I do on my device uses a non-Apple service, mainly Google. It's hard to use the Apple ecosystem when none of it will work with your PowerPC Macs running OS X Leopard 10.5.8. You have to look for alternatives.

I do use iMessage, but that's because it's there. I have unlimited data so going back to SMS only wouldn't be any sort of problem.

And for those who never sell their devices? What do I care about resale value? I've got my old iPhone 5 and a 4s hanging around as secondary phones.

Admittedly, I am not the norm.

 

[noobinator]

You won't get double selling a similarly aged used iPhone vs a Samsung.

 

[awilliamsny]

Well, having both iPhone 7+ and Samsung S8 in my hands right now, I will reply

Spot on. The hardware is beautiful to hold and look at. There is are two big issues for me, and they are deal-breakers as far as S8 is concerned.

The first is with the display accuracy. I'm a professional photographer. Yes, I understand the difference between the iP7/7+ displays and the AMOLED display on the S8, and I actually owned S7 before switching to iPhone a few months ago. But photos on the S8 are way more saturated vs. the iPhone 7 or 7+. It's like Samsung dialed the saturation slider up to 11! Putting the two screens side-by-side and viewing calibration photos and any photos of mine (http://andywillia.ms) convinced me that there's no way I can use the s8. iP7 and iP7+ screens are accurate and true. Period.

The second issue has to do with scrolling. If you scroll an app (like Twitter or NY Times) on the S8, the screen jitters like crazy when you are scrolling. You can see herky-jerkiness as your scrolling. Scroll the same apps on iP7 or iP7+ and it's smooth like butter. S8 is going back, and I'll keep my iP7+. By the way the same happens with Safari or Chrome on iP7+ vs Chrome on S8. The scrolling using the browsers on iPhone is buttery smooth.

What I really want is iPhone 7 size with iPhone 7+ camera, and no or little bezels (larger screen). So I guess I'll be happier come end of the year when Apple has a new iPhone

 

[noobinator]

Well, having both iPhone 7+ and Samsung S8 in my hands right now, I will reply

Spot on. The hardware is beautiful to hold and look at. There is are two big issues for me, and they are deal-breakers as far as S8 is concerned.

The first is with the display accuracy. I'm a professional photographer. Yes, I understand the difference between the iP7/7+ displays and the AMOLED display on the S8, and I actually owned S7 before switching to iPhone a few months ago. But photos on the S8 are way more saturated vs. the iPhone 7 or 7+. It's like Samsung dialed the saturation slider up to 11! Putting the two screens side-by-side and viewing calibration photos and any photos of mine (http://andywillia.ms) convinced me that there's no way I can use the s8. iP7 and iP7+ screens are accurate and true. Period.

The second issue has to do with scrolling. If you scroll an app (like Twitter or NY Times) on the S8, the screen jitters like crazy when you are scrolling. You can see herky-jerkiness as your scrolling. Scroll the same apps on iP7 or iP7+ and it's smooth like butter. S8 is going back, and I'll keep my iP7+. By the way the same happens with Safari or Chrome on iP7+ vs Chrome on S8. The scrolling using the browsers on iPhone is buttery smooth.

What I really want is iPhone 7 size with iPhone 7+ camera, and no or little bezels (larger screen). So I guess I'll be happier come end of the year when Apple has a new iPhone

Both of those things are easily learned without even needing to pick up the phone. Samsung screens have always been and will most likely always be more saturated. This is going back as far as I can recall. Scrolling has always been different on the 2 phones as well. I will say that iPhones do scroll more smoothly but some android apps are worse than others in terms of scrolling. Again, this has always been the case with iPhone vs Samsung or Android phones.

 

[awilliamsny]

Both of those things are easily learned without even needing to pick up the phone. Samsung screens have always been and will most likely always be more saturated. This is going back as far as I can recall. Scrolling has always been different on the 2 phones as well. I will say that iPhones do scroll more smoothly but some android apps are worse than others in terms of scrolling. Again, this has always been the case with iPhone vs Samsung or Android phones.

No, not exactly. I owned the S7 and the saturation was way less. More than iP7 but still tolerable. The scrolling was also tolerable. Different versions of Android though.

In any case, I was glad to put them side by side and have them both in-hand. S8 is packed up and going back today!

 

[iSheep5S]

These threads are never phone vs phone. Always will be android vs iOS.

2 years on android I'm happy on iOS with iPhone. Always had iPad and have recently converted to Mac after a couple of false starts.

 

[44267547]

These threads are never phone vs phone. Always will be android vs iOS.

2 years on android I'm happy on iOS with iPhone. Always had iPad and have recently converted to Mac after a couple of false starts.

Valid point. It starts off usually hardware-based and then moves along to the battle of iOS versus Android OS.

I think both iOS and Android (Which has much improved) are very good. They have their differences, but it strictly preference on what the user appreciates out of both versions.

 

[JackieInCo]

I still have a few S7 Edge phones. Two are sitting in a drawer and I am using my blue coral S7 Edge every day. My daily phone is my 6S+. I'm skipping the S8 this year and waiting for the Note 8.

I've been using Android phones and iPhones since about 2012-13 when I skipped the first iPhone I ever skipped and that was the iPhone 5. I bought a Nexus 4 that year and ever since then, every other year I buy an iPhone and every other year, I but either the Note or S series.

This last year though, I happened to and up with four S7 Edge phones. Two were preorder but one was supposed to be canceled. T-Mobile send it anyways so I kept it. I broke one and replaced it with a US Unlocked model and then when T-Mobile had the sale on the S7 Edge for $360 a few months back, I bought a blue coral model. The others are sitting in a drawer.

 

[cdmoore74]

My biggest issue with Samsung (and any Android OEM other than Google) is the lack of updates. But here's the catch; your average user could care less. My wife is oblivious to the latest and greatest software update and she is not tech savvy. When she gets an update on her iPhone it actually bugs the crap out of her. Most people just want to use the phone. These same people don't care about resell value.
So as a phone enthusiast I agree with all of your cons but most people that read phone/tech forums are more in sync with what's going on. Your typical user has a life outside of following phone rumors.