If it wasn't for the fact that I periodically have to prise my wife's devices from her to update them and for the fact that every 2.5 to 3.5 years I make her update her phone she'd still be using a Sanyo flip phone.
So, yeah. Totally agree.
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So, yeah. Totally agree.
The average iPhone user will switch back. iPhone is very simple, efficient and always works. Android has a Preety tough track record with giving up on its users.
Just to add to my previous post. Android is less reliant on the latest os version. While new features are cool the are rarely must haves.
What do you mean "giving up on its users"? Are you saying that Android is too difficult for most people or that OEM's suck at updates? That's a wide open statement without any explanation. Android is still the number one mobile OS in the world. I own a iPhone 7 Plus but I recognize that Android works for many people. I personally hate that Google does not drop the hammer down on OEM's that won't update their phones in a timely matter but Android has been this way for years.
I think the ball is now in Apple's court to win us over this year. A iPhone 7S will not cut it and the anniversary/edition better be all that because I can honestly say that Samsung has the best designed phone in the S8 (minus the fingerprint sensor location) and the LG G6 even beats out the iPhone 7 in that department.
No.
What I'm saying is that the android OS is not as reliable as iOS. This my friend is FACT. After a few months, that " out of the box " smoothness is gone. That's usually not the case with Apple products. And I also agree with you, google needs to put a leash on ALL of their leasers. Them leading their android OS is what's giving it all its bad Rep. Had google followed apples foot steps since day one and kept it exclusively to them selves, apple would be forced to be innovative.
Android is the #1 OS in the world but it's because it's in what, 120 different phones/manufactures ?. Android is a system, iPhone is a phone.
This is like saying the ENGINE out of a mustang GT350R is better than a Ferrari 488 VEHICLE.
Get it ?. I like android, I have a rooted Nexus 6 I play around with. But it doesn't hold a candle agains the iPhone entirely.
Now if it's the Samsung Galaxy S8 V iPhone 7 then it's all down to preference at that point. It's a beautiful phone. But the Note 8 will come out this fall and there goes the S8 to be forgotten about. Samsung always leaves their old phones in the backseat. Apple carries all their products into the future together for the most part.
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This is the world I live in. I go back and forth between my 5s and my Moto G4 that replaced a Galaxy S4. The Samsung will never be updated beyond 5.0 Lollipop (by Verizon, anyway). The Moto G4 updated to 7.0 recently, but that may be the last one. Meanwhile the iPhone 5s is now on 10.2 and is still as smooth as ever. The Androids get a little slower with each upgrade, and possibly just with time alone (the S4).
All that said, the screen on that budget $180 G4 gathers oohs and aahs from my family and their 6s's. Crisper, brighter, larger.
If you're not immersed in the Apple ecosystem, the only redeeming feature for iPhones that I care about is that they not only get regular updates, but they don't slow down measurably for quite a while.
If you are not already in apple jail (aka eco-system/hardware), there is really nothing compelling with the so-called Apple eco-system. Plus it is way over priced.
Personal/leisure/media? Android is much much better in terms of openness and integration to Google and 3rd party apps. Not to mention the variety of apps catering to novice as well as advanced users.
Office /work? Microsoft is easier since that's platform for most workplaces.
Personal/leisure/media? Android is much much better in terms of openness and integration to Google and 3rd party apps. Not to mention the variety of apps catering to novice as well as advanced users.
Office /work? Microsoft is easier since that's platform for most workplaces.
Battery life? In my experience battery life is not consistent on Samsung devices. For the most part it is very good, better or equal to iPhone. But there are days when it just drains out of nowhere. I like the consistency of the battery life on iPhone.
Hmmm…my only real battery experience with Android has been with LG Crap-Pads (G-Pads) and they've had some fairly decent battery life. Tablets are different from phones of course so that seems to be something to look into.
The average user will find after a little while that despite the great hardware they are stuck using the same disjointed, horrible android and deeply miss the smooth, rich iOS experience.
Smooth yes. But irritating and frustrating esp the scrolling speed. Takes 3 times as many flicks to move through a long page. And no dedicated task mgr or back button (or its placement at the top) makes simple navigation a chore to do.
I understand that you never sell your iPhones and you pass them down to your children/other family members, etc. But the point is, the iPhones have some of the highest resale value on the used market. Primarily because their well-made and for those who upgrade frequently, they want to make some generalized profit and put that likely towards a new iPhone, which can serve as a nice dividend.
But on the other side of the argument, is that handing down the iPhone to a family member or friend, is that they last longer than other phones, which also saves that individual money from purchasing a new phone that still performs and functions normally. (Assuming the device is still supported.)
But for me, I actually trade my iPhones in versus selling them, because I don't want to deal with all the scammers and insecurities that can follow a sale. It's just a safer bet in my opinion, even if it means I take a price cut.
I still love iOS and have a soft spot for Android. But as a person who sells both Android and iOS devices...neither are exactly 100% stable and reliable and both have their quirks. I've just always thought it was funny how apple fans would say how reliable apple's phone is. Hell even using my iPhone, it's randomly crashed shut down. Many android phones have done the same, I'm sure.
With that being said, I'm still looking forward to the iPhone 8. And I'm also very very close to pulling the trigger on me getting the Galaxy S8 Plus. That phone is beautiful. Camera, software(touchwiz is actually good on this thing), ect...it's an amazing piece of technology
With that being said, I'm still looking forward to the iPhone 8. And I'm also very very close to pulling the trigger on me getting the Galaxy S8 Plus. That phone is beautiful. Camera, software(touchwiz is actually good on this thing), ect...it's an amazing piece of technology
I don't think anybody will argue the Galaxy range are awesome devices with impressive specs. I know quite a few people now who have left iPhone to try them out. However the love affair doesn't last. The first couple of weeks they tell you how brilliant the screen and camera are which is indisputable. Then the loss of continuity between devices, poor battery life and in the long term the lack of updates hits home.
The iPhone still wins in terms of service and long term use. The Galaxy is like a Ferrari. Impressive, beautiful to look at, but you can't depend on it for day to day use IMO.
The iPhone still wins in terms of service and long term use. The Galaxy is like a Ferrari. Impressive, beautiful to look at, but you can't depend on it for day to day use IMO.
You are joking right? So millions ofusers around world are having issues with their Galaxy on daily basis? Typical myopic apple fan view of the world.
Just telling it from the perspective of a long term iPhone user. I wouldn't class myself as a typical Apple fan, I hardly fit that narrative. I'm pretty pissed off with apples direction of late hence why I've snubbed their latest products.
Never assume
Just telling it from the perspective of a long term iPhone user. I wouldn't class myself as a typical Apple fan, I hardly fit that narrative. I'm pretty pissed off with apples direction of late hence why I've snubbed their latest products.
Never assume
Then in that case you are just a gullible iPhone user regurgitating certain myth propagate by myopic apple fanboy.
My wife is quite tech-tarded and she didn't have any issues with the note 5 just like the iPhone she was using before.
I'm not gullible or regurgitating anything, and your language there is insulting and rude.
I researched extensively when I was planning to buy a Galaxy S7 last year and held off while close friends and colleagues used theirs. I had good hands on experience and discussed at length the day to day usage. Most of my associates are back with the iPhone and the ones that are not have shared their complaints. You seem to ignore the positives I've suggested yet gone into typical fanboy attack mode. Get off your high horse!
This is just my opinion as I have totally different expectations of the device I am using. If you can't handle that, get out of the kitchen.
standby time is where it's not as good as the iPhone but my S7 edge was poor with battery life but my dads S8 plus seems to be pretty good with battery life. his % was around where my 7 plus was about 19:00 last night
My colleague has to plug his S7E in most days at around 3.30pm as he's often down to his last 10%. My iPhone gets to that stage around 10pm and I wouldn't say he uses his phone more than me. He complains he's having to disable features to get it to stretch. We both use our phones for emails and photo and video of product testing so I suppose that can be a battery zapper.
my S7 edge was around 20% by 4pm most days. with my 7 plus i charge every night and by 23:00 last night i still had about 28% left. makes a big difference not worrying about battery life.
Those are my stages of regret every time I switch to android. I've probably bought a android phone every year since 2008. From the G1 to the S5 to the Pixel, phone leaves me with the same result. I used to think it'd get better. I hope I've learned now.
The last time I used an iPhone was a 4s and I've been android ever since. I thought " man I will never leave , I love changing launchers, icons, roms , rooting, etc...... but then I got ahold of my wife's iPhone 6 Plus and man the OS is very polished and simple things like printing a web page just worked without downloading 5 different apps till I find one compatible with my printer! Long story longer ,lol I got me and my wife a iPhone 7 plus and I couldn't be happier, it's a gorgeous phone!!! In all reality I don't think Samsung will ever get their Os as smooth as iPhone, they have been trying for yrs....but the technology is cutting edge but the honeymoon will wear off
Sorry if I sounded like insulting you personally. No doing that. Otoh, I am definitely insulting your statement
The reality I see is over the years many iPhone users have deserted to Samsung, oppo, xiaomi, Huawei and never gone back.
It used to be 3 out of 4 were iPhone users but now it is like the reverse.
You are still living in the past if you keep bringing up stability / battery life /usability issues in Android. The reality is now both o/s are on par on these factors.
Even when Samsung market share dropped due to note7 debacle, most of drop were gobbled up by the Chinese brands and not apple. This shows that buyers are not flocking back to iPhone but staying with Android. The reason is simple. Consumers are now seeing the so-called Apple eco-system no longer has any advantage as Android closed that gap and they are no longer willing to pay a huge price premium for iPhone.
well i think a lot stayed with samsung or android after the note 7 nightmare was due to the high amount of offers/deals samsung offered customers in terms of carriers to make people stay.Sorry if I sounded like insulting you personally. No doing that. Otoh, I am definitely insulting your statement
The reality I see is over the years many iPhone users have deserted to Samsung, oppo, xiaomi, Huawei and never gone back.
It used to be 3 out of 4 were iPhone users but now it is like the reverse.
You are still living in the past if you keep bringing up stability / battery life /usability issues in Android. The reality is now both o/s are on par on these factors.
Even when Samsung market share dropped due to note7 debacle, most of drop were gobbled up by the Chinese brands and not apple. This shows that buyers are not flocking back to iPhone but staying with Android. The reason is simple. Consumers are now seeing the so-called Apple eco-system no longer has any advantage as Android closed that gap and they are no longer willing to pay a huge price premium for iPhone.
i suppose android and samsung is different when it comes to battery life and stability. as the Pixel most likely you will find is very smooth and give you great updates like with IOS
that said even last year i was not happy with performance and battery life on my S7 edge so lets not act like things are great in that area. this year? hopefully that has changed. S8 plus for example seems to have better battery life than last years models already