?? We are talking about power efficiency. It will look fine but it will use a fair amount of power. OLEDs are most efficient with black backgrounds for obvious reasons. With white backgrounds, not so much.
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Samsung makes the OLED screens, but to Apple specs, I think that is what they meant!
I'm coming from an 8 Plus and am going to preorder the XR. I originally ordered the XS Max and I found the OLED screen uncomfortable to look at and fatiguing so I returned it. Since then, I have returned to the Apple store almost every day and spent a lot of time with the XS Max. I tried the "increase contrast" accessibility feature and lowering the brightness by a tad. This definitely helped, but it's still fatiguing. Text is clearly way sharper on the XS Max, but the display seems to be a magnet for glare. Admittedly there is a lot of glare in the Apple store itself w/the recessed lighting. But I think I am done trying acclimate myself to the Max. As far as the XR goes, I think its's pretty clear that there really no such thing as a bad Apple LCD. They're all pretty stellar regardless of the PPI. Yes, the plus and max-sized phones provide a different and for some a much better user experience including myself vs the non-plus phones, but I doubt most people are going to find the XR screen inferior the 8 Plus because its 326 ppi. There are a ton of variables at play and all of this is a gestalt experience. It's certainly possible I won't like the XR, but I'm going to take a flier on it. I want to get beyond the 8 Plus which is for me a dated phone.
I've got 2 points here... 1)This totally feels like the "Megapixel Myth" in photography... The one that assumes the more Megapixels your camera can process in taking pictures, the better your pictures will be.... And, that's simply false... Too many variables to get into here, but quality of the camera and the pictures it takes are NOT dependent upon the numbers of Megapixels...in this day and age 2)As has been commented on quite a few times, we won't know for sure until we're holding it side by side and can actually compare.
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Well, they said a normal viewer won't notice a difference between a 1080p and 4k TV also unless you are sitting like 5 feet away.
I bought a 65" 4k last year and there are times with 4k content, you don't really notice a difference.
But when you do, the difference is striking. Better details, color, brightness (HDR), black levels, etc.
You can technically say that the ppi is just fine for a smartphone but to me, there are more issues with using 5-7 year old screen tech then just ppi.
I bought a 65" 4k last year and there are times with 4k content, you don't really notice a difference.
But when you do, the difference is striking. Better details, color, brightness (HDR), black levels, etc.
You can technically say that the ppi is just fine for a smartphone but to me, there are more issues with using 5-7 year old screen tech then just ppi.
But it's not 5-7 year old screen tech, it's new "LIQUID RETINA".
HDR has nothing to do with 4K or PPI. I believe some non 4K TVs had it, and many claim it makes way more difference to a picture then a 4K resolution does.
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FYI the tech in he XRs screen is brand new first to market, no other LCD colour screen has the small size bezels yet, their were a few reports on this site over the last year of the new advanced tech rumoured to be used.
Yesterday I was able to compare text in the same app, same brightness and same text size between an 8 and 8+. The text on the 8+ looked ‘darker’ or more black. I don’t know how to explain it. I agree some may not notice it but I did for sure.
I am very interested in the XR but if the text on the XR looks the same as the 8 I will not be going with the XR. I have never been blown away by the OLED screen on my wife’s X but it does look better regarding text. I don’t care about deep blacks but the difference in text was apparent.
I am very interested in the XR but if the text on the XR looks the same as the 8 I will not be going with the XR. I have never been blown away by the OLED screen on my wife’s X but it does look better regarding text. I don’t care about deep blacks but the difference in text was apparent.
Don't worry people will think Liquid Retina display LCD is better than OLED display.
Next year they will rename it to Ultra Liquid Retina Display LCD.
Next year they will rename it to Ultra Liquid Retina Display LCD.
Yes that is accurate and I’ve mentioned the grey text before. The grey text on the 8 is directly due to the lower pixel density in combination with how the anti-aliasing is done.
It is only an issue with (some) small text though. Large and medium sized text does not look grey. It is black.
I’m pretty sure it will look exactly the same on the XR.
Thank you. The XR is likely out for me then. I use the second to smallest text setting so it will be noticeable.
People are forgetting this is the first Liquid Retina Display.............
is it a miracle display?
apple just loves to name their display technology whatever makes the hype. for example ”it is a retina display” while oher companies go way further than just ”retina” resolution... but because apple has a retina display it must be much better than samsung lcd (much higher pixel density) which has no sexy retina name... retina is too old so they invented super retina and liquid retina... what next? plasma retina?
It's just a normal LCD Panel the fantasy name Apple is using is truly amazing marketing ploy to be honest Apple done well to fool the public.is it a miracle display?
apple just loves to name their display technology whatever makes the hype. for example ”it is a retina display” while oher companies go way further than just ”retina” resolution... but because apple has a retina display it must be much better than samsung lcd (much higher pixel density) which has no sexy retina name... retina is too old so they invented super retina and liquid retina... what next? plasma retina?
The ability to see the difference a 4K vs 1080p image on a large TV is not necessarily 5 pt. it depends on the size of TV, how far the person sits away, and how good the individual's eyes are. Google Carlton Bale - he as a chart. So as a blanket statement, this is inaccurate.
4K is now a marketing term that implies other enhancements to TV such as HDR and wider color gamut which are immediately visible from any distance. The term 4K resolution as applied to TVs belies the fact that it is mostly a Trojan Horse for bringing along a host of other features. Most TV commentators such as David Katzmeier of CNET argue convincingly that 4K itself, ie the resolution, is the least important feature of a 4K TV.
Better black levels have little w/4K resolution and more likely the result of OLED panels that LG makes or other advancement to LCD technology.
The comparison of the large screen TV and mobile phones is not a very good one.
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The marketing term "Liquid Retina" is clever and a double entendre. It suggest the LCD is flowing, ie liquid right up to the bezel. It's a stroke of genius. Probably dreamed up by Apple's long time ad agency Chiat Day or someone of that ilk, maybe Don Draper.
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It's really a continuum. "Retina display" has stood the test of time and is as relevant today as it ever was. It has become part of the world's vernacular for describing displays, a convenient way of explaining concepts to the public. The variants of the term, super and liquid, in no way undercut the original concept which is one of the most valuable pieces of intellectual property in the word, more valuable that Coke or Coca Cola.is it a miracle display?
apple just loves to name their display technology whatever makes the hype. for example ”it is a retina display” while oher companies go way further than just ”retina” resolution... but because apple has a retina display it must be much better than samsung lcd (much higher pixel density) which has no sexy retina name... retina is too old so they invented super retina and liquid retina... what next? plasma retina?
Depends on the viewing environment, but:
I'd say the number one and two features of 4K TVs are 4K (all 4K TVs) and black levels (OLED), although not necessarily in that order.
Coming in third is HDR.
I say this as an owner of a 4K 65" OLED with HDR10 and Dolby Vision HDR, with a seating distance of 7.5 feet. (According to RTINGs, 4K is worth it at a seating distance of 8.5 feet or closer.)
In an interview just published, Phil Schiller of Apple said:
“I think the only way to judge a display is to look at it. …
If you can’t see the pixels, at some point the numbers don’t mean anything. They’re fairly arbitrary.”
“I think the only way to judge a display is to look at it. …
If you can’t see the pixels, at some point the numbers don’t mean anything. They’re fairly arbitrary.”
Awesome to learn his impressive speeches on OLED at the keynotes are completely out of his backside then lol. Nice flip Phil!
I have had the XS Max for 2 weeks the first time and going on two weeks with the new one. While the display looks nice, to say that it is leaps and bounds better in my eyes view is not accurate. The LCD on the iPhone 8+ is much more comfy to my eyes. I know the XR will not be the same as the 8+ but honestly $799 128gb vs $1249 256gb (which is overkill) not to mention tax and Apple Care + being $50 cheaper. Yeah that XR display is going to have to be mighty underwhelming at this point.
Exactly, My XsMax screen is very nice but watching a HDR movie on it while nice it's still tiny compared to my Ipad. Would be difficult to go back to touch ID and loss of screen swipes on my 8+, so I'm going to wait until they are in stores and decide about switching. I hope it has the same speaker magic that the Max has. IUP makes it more difficult, $64.50 per month 256 Max with AC+ loss/theft vs Xr same 256GB difference in a year is only about $200 less. So $780 per year keeping the Max, then upgrade or downgrade to 2019 models. My head hurts
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This is not a popular opinion.. but I agree with you. Many openly state, as a blanket statement, that OLED is better than LCD.
For those that are heavy consumers of video content OLED is likely preferable. However, for those that watch video on a phone more casually, OLED and it’s other characteristics may not be preferable. I have brought up the major color shift with the screen. I will admit when the X was launched I pretty much ignored the color-shift complaints. However, from just using my wife’s X to read text in-hand to lying it on a table... the screen went through three colors. THREE. That’s nuts and very distracting.
In addition, people who edit photos have raised the concerns about color accuracy.. and then do I need to edit photos holding the OLED screen at 30 degrees, or flat for the most accurate colors? What a PITA.
Had it not been for the RF issues I would have already picked up an XSM or XS. I was down to the XS, wanting a smaller phone than my 8+. Now the XR is definitely in the running for sure.
I hope it has the same speaker magic that the Max has. IUP makes it more difficult, $64.50 per month 256 Max with AC+ loss/theft vs Xr same 256GB difference in a year is only about $200 less. So $780 per year keeping the Max, then upgrade or downgrade to 2019 models. My head hurts
From what I understand it’s the same speaker setup. Because I am dropping to 128gb. Not including tax my difference is $450 And AC+ $50 less so for me that is $500. I sure like the sound of that. This leaves me with not doing IUP and the phone will be mine to keep, plus I am upgrade eligible with AT&T and/or Apple IUP for next time.
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I too find it destructing I was using my work iPhone 8+ and realized it was less fatiguing. I sure hope the XR works out for both of us.
