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Okay great, so I've got my gigabit adapter so I can plug into the gigabit network, and my firewire adapter so I can read off the client's FW800 drives, all I need to do is plug in my Thunderbolt drive...oh...wait...":rolleyes:" Think before you post, amatuer.

You're definitely not working with Nat Geo....nor with any other clients worth a turd. Not with the attitude and limited knowledge you've displayed in this thread. You simply don't understand technology, do ya? You've certainly never owned a rMBP. That much is obvious.

Calling people names on a 'mainly' professional and high class board shows your age more than anything else. I'm starting to think you're a jealous 15 year old who's mom told him 'No!' ;)

J
 
Think before you post as well. A lot of Thunderbolt drives have two Thunderbolt ports on it. Just daisy chain the ethernet/FW800 adapter to the Thunderbolt drive.

After all thats the whole point of Thunderbolt, as long as you buy peripherals that can daisy chain.

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Ok, I will correct you.

16GB is a lot of ram.

Even by todays standards.

OS X idle from a fresh boot is about 1.2GB.

No it's not. I use Virtual Machines. You simply can't have 4 GB of RAM on your VM unless you want to run 1 app at a time, that would be stupid.

And even without having a VM, my MBA would fill up the entire 8 GB in no time. It always happens, and it dumps it's virtual RAM off my SSD.

16 GB isn't a lot. 12 GB should be standard nowadays, 16 GB is for future-proofing. But it isn't a lot.
 
If you're the type of person who is constantly having to connect to wired networks while on the go, having to always use an adapter can be a deal breaker. You might not think it's a big deal but to some of us it is.

Built-in gigabit ethernet was one of the reasons I went with a regular MBP.

I intended to stay quiet, but this... baffles me.

If you constantly have to deal with legacy tech, then chances are you're already lugging around a ton of adapters and peripherals. I mean... have you ever had to deal with clients who only give you a Memory Stick Pro Duo when your Mac only has a SD slot? Have you ever had to deal with clients whose projectors only have either VGA or DVI but your Mac only has HDMI or Mini DisplayPort? Have you ever had to capture sound input from red/white RCA jacks when your Mac only has 3.5mm input? All of those things happened to me just a few days ago. Even with a regular MBP, I still have to lug along at least a card reader, VGA and DVI to Mini DisplayPort adapters, plus an external USB capture card.

One or two extra adapters is "normal" even for the regular MBP... unless you don't deal with legacy tech that often, but then... why complain about the lack of ports that you don't use that often?
 
agree one-hundred percent. I think some people are failing to grasp that the entire point of the thunderbolt was to remove ports, those 'adapters' aren't adapters in the strict sense of the word: they enable you to use the thunderbolt as intended. I'd rather have a case compartment full of adapters than a laptop with every port used in the last 15 years.

I intended to stay quiet, but this... baffles me.

If you constantly have to deal with legacy tech, then chances are you're already lugging around a ton of adapters and peripherals. I mean... have you ever had to deal with clients who only give you a Memory Stick Pro Duo when your Mac only has a SD slot? Have you ever had to deal with clients whose projectors only have either VGA or DVI but your Mac only has HDMI or Mini DisplayPort? Have you ever had to capture sound input from red/white RCA jacks when your Mac only has 3.5mm input? All of those things happened to me just a few days ago. Even with a regular MBP, I still have to lug along at least a card reader, VGA and DVI to Mini DisplayPort adapters, plus an external USB capture card.

One or two extra adapters is "normal" even for the regular MBP... unless you don't deal with legacy tech that often, but then... why complain about the lack of ports that you don't use that often?
 
I got a rMBP a few weeks ago and ended up returning it. The reason for the return, the Adobe software I use are not retina ready yet and some others. I ended up having it pug into my external monitor more for work. So for me it was a waste right now. By the time Adobe update their software to be retina ready, Apple will probably update their rMBP spec as well(CPU speed bump). Never buy hardware if the software you need is not ready.

I'll probably end up getting the rMBP again when the software is there. It feels kind of like the first iPad, was exciting and new but not practical because of how little software it had(Not counting the iPhone app that ran stretched out). The experience was a lot better for people who got the iPad 2 8 months later they got a lot better device with more software support.
 
No it's not. I use Virtual Machines. You simply can't have 4 GB of RAM on your VM unless you want to run 1 app at a time, that would be stupid.

And even without having a VM, my MBA would fill up the entire 8 GB in no time. It always happens, and it dumps it's virtual RAM off my SSD.

16 GB isn't a lot. 12 GB should be standard nowadays, 16 GB is for future-proofing. But it isn't a lot.

You're in the %0.0001 percentile. 4GB is more than enough for the average user.

But people like you and me will definitely benefit from 16GB.
 
I got a rMBP a few weeks ago and ended up returning it. The reason for the return, the Adobe software I use are not retina ready yet and some others. I ended up having it pug into my external monitor more for work. So for me it was a waste right now. By the time Adobe update their software to be retina ready, Apple will probably update their rMBP spec as well(CPU speed bump). Never buy hardware if the software you need is not ready.

I'll probably end up getting the rMBP again when the software is there. It feels kind of like the first iPad, was exciting and new but not practical because of how little software it had(Not counting the iPhone app that ran stretched out). The experience was a lot better for people who got the iPad 2 8 months later they got a lot better device with more software support.

I use almost the entire Adobe suite. It runs just fine on the rMBP. Could menu text be a tad sharper? Sure---but the programs themselves flat fly!!! Also, I believe LR was just recently updated to be completely 'retina aware'
 
IMHO, expecting everyone to understand the way you work and thinking everyone should work exact same way as you do is not professional at all. I got rMBP because my 2009 MBP gave up on me. It didn't take more than 2 weeks to clean out my FW drives and legacy gears except one unit. USB 3.0 is plenty fast over FW. I got USB3.0 to gigabit just in case but used only once past two months I owned rMBP.

I get paid a lot for what I do and are you going to call me an amateur too?
I don't know how you work, but I educate my clients often to keep up with technologies. It doesn't take much, as long as they get a grasp of efficiency and speed increase they will have.

rMBP is not a perfect machine but there aren't any better portable machine than this. If weight and size isn't the problem, why don't you rug around iMac? You get the power, all the ports you need, and 21.5" over 17"
 
You're definitely not working with Nat Geo....nor with any other clients worth a turd. Not with the attitude and limited knowledge you've displayed in this thread. You simply don't understand technology, do ya? You've certainly never owned a rMBP. That much is obvious.

Calling people names on a 'mainly' professional and high class board shows your age more than anything else. I'm starting to think you're a jealous 15 year old who's mom told him 'No!' ;)

J

You're an idiot. You keep using that phrase "I'm starting to think you're a jealous 15 year old who's mom told him 'No!' ", but you don't know who you're talking to.

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Think before you post as well. A lot of Thunderbolt drives have two Thunderbolt ports on it. Just daisy chain the ethernet/FW800 adapter to the Thunderbolt drive.

Sorry, I have displays attached to those.But thanks sport.

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Just add a USB 3.0 Gigabit adapter, or is that a little too complex for you. Both Retina and standard MBP will get the job done, it`s just down to personal preference.

Sure, use up a USB port and have to carry yet another frakking dongle. Great solution :rolleyes:
 
I thought I'm fussy with computers, but what lag is that you're all moaning on about? I haven't ever experienced any. The machine just zips along with anything I'm throwing at it!

I played around with some rMBP displays and there is some lag while scrolling through image/animation/flash(?) heavy sites. It's not really discernible if you're not really looking for it. Trust me, I would know. I play a lot of FPS games on my PC and am sensitive to that kind of thing.
 
Sorry, I have displays attached to those.But thanks sport.

Who talks like that?

From what it seems like, you either bought the wrong computer (or don't actually own one), or you just want to complain because of something that you knew you didn't get when you bought it.

What displays do you have at the end of the Thunderbolt chain? If it's the Apple Thunderbolt Display, that has a Firewire AND Ethernet port on the back of it. Use that. If you have two displays, then you'll have two Firewire ports and two Ethernets for your legacy port needs.
 
You're an idiot. You keep using that phrase "I'm starting to think you're a jealous 15 year old who's mom told him 'No!' ", but you don't know who you're talking to.

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Sorry, I have displays attached to those.But thanks sport.

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Sure, use up a USB port and have to carry yet another frakking dongle. Great solution :rolleyes:

I dont think you are a 15 year old, however i do belive more and more that you are just a troll, and imature as only your point of view appears to be valid, anybody elses is automatically discounted or ridiculed. Regardless of all your self proclaimed technical prowess you are simply coming across as an ass, resorting to insults when pressed...
 
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Really these love versus hate Retina threads are bizarre to say the very least almost as if people are describing two totally different machines. Sometimes i do wonder if all the negative is simply generated by "Haters" then again some do genuinely appear to have performance issues. My own 15" base Retina performs flawlessly, a little stutter with Lion, and it has simply dissolved with Mountain Lion it certainly equals and in many respects exceeds my Late 2011 15" (2.4 i7) MBP.

You see why i fail to understand all the commotion is that my set up has the Retina and Late 2011 sat together on the same desk, with pretty much the same workload and they perform equally well in regards to the UI, fluid and consistent. I have no reason to embellish, nor do i have anything to gain from it. It is what it is to me typical MBP performance that i have been used to for many a year. If you are happy with your MBP Retina good for you, if not return it and tell Apple why...

As for the "Pro" thing, it`s most entertaining. Anyone believing that they are actually defined as a "Professional" by the hardware they own, well just keep it coming :p

This was my exact thought as I read through this thread of people trying to convince each other that they were "pro."
 
Bought a 2012 rmbp 16gb 512gb ssd.. Used it for 3 months... Couldn't stand the lag with everything that was being done with the a computer..l I mean correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 16gb enough ram for rmbp to work flawlessly.. I mean Jesus, it's just terrible what you pay for and what you get. A 3K laptop shouldn't work worse than a 15" umbp.

I had a base-version rMBP and found it really laggy. I sold it for that reason. Later, after having read that apparently the lag-issue is not present on all rMBPs, I ended up getting a fully loaded one. There's absolutely no lag whatsoever. While I don't really think it has anything to do with the version of rMBP you buy, I'm now convinced that some of them have hardware defects that cause the lag.
 
I think its a combination of hardware on the cusp of coping and software just not ready for the retina.

Many seem to be waiting for 2nd Generation RMBP.
 
And many are very happy with their first generation...

Absolutely,

But with so many random things not just right with the model it says that its good but not just correct yet.

It is a 1st generation product so will inevitably be improved upon.
 
have had my rMBP (2.7/16/768) a little over 3 months... recently I noticed the IR everyone is talking about, had a major breakdown last week after the 2.0 update, it lags here and there...


overall not happy with the quality, worst Macbook I've own
If I'm not happy with my replacement, I'm ending my contract (lease to company) and getting a non:apple: laptop

You should buy a copy of win7 if you don't already own it before its unavailable! Win8 is ass.
 
You should buy a copy of win7 if you don't already own it before its unavailable! Win8 is ass.
I have both Win7 & 8... like 7 better, and for laptop my rMBP has a new Samsung display... perfect, no IR no backlight bleed :) ... yet
 
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