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Imagine paying a premium price for a premium vehicle and they have the balls to ask for $200 for an upgrade that the vehicle should of came with.

My entune can’t read Hebrew or Arabic. So if I’m looking through my playlist while driving, it will show up ass error symbols - ridiculous. I have to go on my phone while driving or listen to the few seconds of the song to know what is playing.

I hate it! I wish I knew that before I bought my Toyota because I may of leaned towards Honda because when I’m in my car, I like to listen to music!
 
The reason some models are left out is because the current IS model does not have a track pad interface. It is using the joystick/mouse interface. The IS model will be redesigned in fall of 2020 for 2021 model and will carry the trackpad like all other models, all the current Lexus model that have car play also have a track pad interface, that’s why IS won’t get CarPlay until the next re design.
 
A one time fee is okay, albeit a little steep. But the BMW $300 annual subscription is just ludicrous.

Might want to check your figures...

There is no $300/year annual fee, nor has there ever been. Prices may vary in different countries but this is the following pricing structure for CarPlay for those BMW's that are now on a subscription for CarPlay.

While it is flat out expensive, it's more/less the price if you had to pay to add it as an option, having it part of the smartphone connectivity package.
 

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Sometimes I think the same thing when i see some of the new car displays that look worse than an ipad from 10 years ago. How is the technology so far behind? why is the GUI so bad and the buttons so laggy?

my dad has a 2015 and the touch display looks worse than a game boy color and the response time is terrible.
Most car manufacturers lock the hardware so far in advanced that by the time the car is released, it’s already obsolete.
 
Exactly, I got my Model 3 in June last year and have received 23 updates for free since then. A lot of the updates even added significant new features. I will never buy a car from a company that is not continually improving its software.
Ironically no CarPlay or Android Auto. I had the fortune to be a passenger in a Tesla S for a road trip, and the map and direction are not up to par with Google Maps.
 
Should be free.

I think I should be given a free iPhone XS but alas such is life, you have to pay for things....
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Might want to check your figures...

There is no $300/year annual fee, nor has there ever been. Prices may vary in different countries but this is the following pricing structure for CarPlay for those BMW's that are now on a subscription for CarPlay.

While it is flat out expensive, it's more/less the price if you had to pay to add it as an option, having it part of the smartphone connectivity package.

Exactly. Those figures are 100% wrong.

I own a BMW G30 and the lifetime fee is currently €399, or €110 per year in Spain. I know it's the same or less in the US.

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However, for about $120, you can buy a 3rd party tool that enables CarPlay either through a USB stick (for older firmware versions), and by ENET on newer firmware versions.
[doublepost=1558339825][/doublepost]Also I want to ask CarPlay users's opinions of "full-screen" CarPlay or not.

I have a BMW G30 and I have a split screen view for CarPlay. This is actually the standard view for my particular model, but it does allow you to add BMW native apps next to your CarPlay view. This could include maps, album art, vehicle information and more. (I prefer the BMW maps as they integrate with my HUD and digital cockpit).

However, a cheap non-official coding update can change my CarPlay view to full screen so CarPlay takes up the complete 10.25" display like the latest G20 3 series that operate on the latest ID7 iDrive system.

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Is the full screen version so much better? I'm torn between the two and unfortunately, once coded, you can only go back to the original view by coding your system again. (No small feat as it requires my laptop hooked up to the car by ENET cable and about 20 minutes of my time, so it can't be toggled). If the latter it would be a no-brainer....
 

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I have driving my 2016 Toyota Corrola without Carplay for three years in the row now. And I have driving old Malibu for 6 years before that. I don't have problem with that.

I rather want car have safety features, Carplay is nice feature but not necessary features. I will continue buy Toyota even if Toyota never offers Carplay. Toyota quality and reliability is so good, even lack of Carplay or Android auto is fine for me. Even if Hyundai or GM offers Carplay while Toyota doesn't, I would still buy Toyota.

It's understandable that CarPlay is not your thing since it seemed that you are not an iOS user :)
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Wait, $199 for just a software update?

If that includes labor, it's not that bad. Mazda is charging $399 for it.
 
Anyone who buys a Toyota & pays $10,000 extra for some increased hp & a wooden steering wheel (Lexus) should have to fork over $200 for a software update (says Toyota/Lexus)...

My 2014 top of the line Rav4 Limited's "radio" crapped out after 38 months (out of warranty) & they wanted $4000 for a replacement. I went to a stereo shop & got a new Kenwood head unit that has Apple CarPlay AND Android Auto for $600.00 /. It Sounds better & the back up camera, parking asset, etc. all work fine.

I own two Lexus vehicles.

They are nowhere near a Toyota whatsoever in any form or fashion.
 
I think I should be given a free iPhone XS but alas such is life, you have to pay for things....
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Exactly. Those figures are 100% wrong.

I own a BMW G30 and the lifetime fee is currently €399, or €110 per year in Spain. I know it's the same or less in the US.

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However, for about $120, you can buy a 3rd party tool that enables CarPlay either through a USB stick (for older firmware versions), and by ENET on newer firmware versions.
[doublepost=1558339825][/doublepost]Also I want to ask CarPlay users's opinions of "full-screen" CarPlay or not.

I have a BMW G30 and I have a split screen view for CarPlay. This is actually the standard view for my particular model, but it does allow you to add BMW native apps next to your CarPlay view. This could include maps, album art, vehicle information and more. (I prefer the BMW maps as they integrate with my HUD and digital cockpit).

However, a cheap non-official coding update can change my CarPlay view to full screen so CarPlay takes up the complete 10.25" display like the latest G20 3 series that operate on the latest ID7 iDrive system.

s-l300.jpg


Is the full screen version so much better? I'm torn between the two and unfortunately, once coded, you can only go back to the original view by coding your system again. (No small feat as it requires my laptop hooked up to the car by ENET cable and about 20 minutes of my time, so it can't be toggled). If the latter it would be a no-brainer....

In terms of functionality, you do not lose anything, you just get full use of the display which it should have been from the start - do not know why BMW did not do this. Considering that most people primarily use CarPlay for Google Maps and/or Waze, it just makes sense to have the map layout on the whole screen and not a small box especially when you can't zoom freely with the iDrive knob or pinch-to-zoom if your iDrive screen has touchscreen capabilities.
 
Agreed, but better than BMW that now charges an ANNUAL fee to have CarPlay. Ridiculous.

At the end, there is no difference when you think about it.

Previously, you either optioned it or you didn't. Now, all BMW come with CarPlay all ready to go and now you get to at least demo, albeit for a steep fee, but better than having to spend even more after finding out you hate it.

$100.00/year: CarPlay sucks, cost me only $100.
$300 for 20 years: CarPlay is good, would have cost me the same if I had to option it at the time of purchase.
 
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Should be free.

Well, I guess you pay more fo Lexus so they charge you for it. Still better than BMW who charges you an annual subscription fee. A friend's is getting his Camry updated for free. Toyota left the labor charge up to the dealer to determine.
 
I own two Lexus vehicles.

They are nowhere near a Toyota whatsoever in any form or fashion.

If you put your vehicles on a lift or raise the hood, do you see dozens of Toyota emblems on parts and components?

If you mean the Lexus vehicles perform better/are more luxurious, I take your point. If you're implying they aren't gussied up Toyotas, you're incorrect.
 
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Might want to check your figures...

There is no $300/year annual fee, nor has there ever been. Prices may vary in different countries but this is the following pricing structure for CarPlay for those BMW's that are now on a subscription for CarPlay.

While it is flat out expensive, it's more/less the price if you had to pay to add it as an option, having it part of the smartphone connectivity package.
Ah my mistake. $100 per year is still expensive.
 
Can someone please explain to me how in 2019, this is still not a universal standard thing?

Car Play debuted 5 years ago, and EVERYONE owns iPhones, why WOULDN'T car makers want this in their vehicles?

Still surprised insurance doesn't require something like this.
My car is from 2006, the peak of the iPod craze. It has no aux port. I'm guessing the tech in it is from 6 years prior. That's probably still how they roll (heh).

Fixed it with an aux->FM transmitter, btw.
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Exactly, I got my Model 3 in June last year and have received 23 updates for free since then. A lot of the updates even added significant new features. I will never buy a car from a company that is not continually improving its software.
And I'll never buy a car from a company that's rapidly losing money and in serious debt as competitors begin producing similar cars that also look nicer and/or cost less and don't require me to do everything, like enabling recirc, via a touch screen.
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Agreed, but better than BMW that now charges an ANNUAL fee to have CarPlay. Ridiculous.
Geez. CarPlay isn't even good, lol.
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It's understandable that CarPlay is not your thing since it seemed that you are not an iOS user :)
I am. I can plug in my phone to aux and play music and/or nav, or I can plug it into the Lightning port (and replug when it falls out) to do the same thing except it also blocks my screen for 10 seconds with a splash screen then locks my phone.

And it also puts me at the mercy of the car's software, which in my friend's Suburban means weird stuff like only having 10 random playlists show up in the list and stopping my nav if I start manually using the phone to select a song. I thought CarPlay would be a strict improvement, but somehow Apple trusted the carmakers too much and let them muck it up.
 
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The reason why Lexus didn't come up with this before was due to privacy issues, but since customers are getting more demanding and want it newer technology features in their vehicles Lexus introduced Apple car play, Amazon Alexa Integration & Google voice in their vehicles starting in 2019, the retrofit only applies to some certain vehicles starting at $199. be advise that in some cases Bluetooth settings, radio or custom settings might be erased in the process. Of course this is something that you can personalize after the update. in my opinion, $199 it is a great price to add apple car play & Amazon Alexa Integration.

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The retrofit software only works for some Lexus 2018-2019 models and includes Apple car play & Amazon Alexa. No Google voice yet.


 
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I own two Lexus vehicles.

They are nowhere near a Toyota whatsoever in any form or fashion.
Lmao

Except for the engines, drivetrains, body, styling and whatever else I missed

You are the perfect consumer in the eyes of these companies

Ignorant, arrogant and delusional.
The trifecta of Lexus and Acura.
 
Lmao

Except for the engines, drivetrains, body, styling and whatever else I missed

You are the perfect consumer in the eyes of these companies

Ignorant, arrogant and delusional.
The trifecta of Lexus and Acura.

That's rather pompous of you, don't you think?
 
I have a 2019 IS and cannot get CarPlay, while my wife's Hyundai has had CarPlay and it's 3 years old. Thanks Lexus.
That’s because the current IS uses a mouse interface and will never have car play. The next gen IS in another yr or 2 will have the track pad interface and will receive car play.

The current IS is long in the tooth and using older tech and small Navi screen compared to just released competitor 3 series. The IS is long overdue for a whole re design.
 
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