You're still able to buy them and they'll continue to function and get updates... Just not the AI-stuff (which uses third party services)
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Some Apple Apps Will No Longer Receive Every New Feature Without a Subscription
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I think that’s the final nail in the coffin for Apple for me
Exactly. I read now all the articles and I really don't see what the fuss is all about. I think we should calm down a bit, breathe, and use the software as we did, since nothing changes really.
PS. I really love Numbers, all my family budgets, economies predictions and mortgage calculations are on them. I don't need an AI to do SUM on a column. But if somebody needs that, by all means, pay 129 a year for it.
Why? If you’re a creator you already have your tools and flows. Maybe you’re interested in the new features, and pay for them.
Or you’re not a creator and nothing changes for you.
How long before you need a a subscription just to use your computer at all!?
I think we are nearer that than we know. Very disappointed in Apple right now.
I think we are nearer that than we know. Very disappointed in Apple right now.
Yes, but with limited features. The point was that someone using the iWork trio for typical office work has to either do without their subscription based features or de facto pay for an entire suite of creativity apps they may never even touch.
The actual meaning is „You’ll be owned and are to be happy about it”.
First of all, the pricing is quite modest, I pay twice that for Adobe each month.
But then I think that the office suite should be part of the OS starting bundle - despite what some people say Pages, Numbers and especially Keynote are excellent at what they do and I prefer them a lot over their MS pendants. Especially Keynote is amazing compared to PowerPoint. It could need a bit of work - grids, more animations, fine-grained typography, better export and soon - but as a designer it is heads and shoulders above PPT.
FCX and Logic are Pro Tools, the office suite would need a lot of work and much deeper thinking than some AI-add-ons, to be “pro”. Much deeper. But if they do the work, all three do have the potential. I have very few complaints about Logic, Final Cut really needs to catch up and Motion should be reworked from the ground up as a more intuitive rival to Adobe Express. There is a lack of good, integrated, easy and intuitive animation software.
If Apple had bought the Affinity Suite and invested time into the software, THAT would make a Pro-bundle worth being called creative. It’s a shame they missed that option n
But then I think that the office suite should be part of the OS starting bundle - despite what some people say Pages, Numbers and especially Keynote are excellent at what they do and I prefer them a lot over their MS pendants. Especially Keynote is amazing compared to PowerPoint. It could need a bit of work - grids, more animations, fine-grained typography, better export and soon - but as a designer it is heads and shoulders above PPT.
FCX and Logic are Pro Tools, the office suite would need a lot of work and much deeper thinking than some AI-add-ons, to be “pro”. Much deeper. But if they do the work, all three do have the potential. I have very few complaints about Logic, Final Cut really needs to catch up and Motion should be reworked from the ground up as a more intuitive rival to Adobe Express. There is a lack of good, integrated, easy and intuitive animation software.
If Apple had bought the Affinity Suite and invested time into the software, THAT would make a Pro-bundle worth being called creative. It’s a shame they missed that option n
Hate subscriptions for software and I will never sign up to them. I would rather miss out on the features and keep basic functionality - seems to do everything I need anyways.
There was a discussion about DayOne vs Apple's Journal, free at that time when Apple launched it.
I decided to stay wit DayOne and got a cheaper sub. fee, as I've had it some time.
I love DayOne, and it's so worth it and much better then Apple's.
Apple's Jounal are not even close to DayOne.
With Cookie, Apple will soon go subscriprion anyway with their Journal. No doubt, they're just waiting for enough many downloads/users.
I decided to stay wit DayOne and got a cheaper sub. fee, as I've had it some time.
I love DayOne, and it's so worth it and much better then Apple's.
Apple's Jounal are not even close to DayOne.
With Cookie, Apple will soon go subscriprion anyway with their Journal. No doubt, they're just waiting for enough many downloads/users.
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Apple just turned into a combination of
Alphabet ( Google )
Amazon
Adobe
The 4 A’s of the Subscription Apocalypse.
That and supplement with FOSS { Free and Open Source ) alternatives.
Gross. The only thing numbers and Keynote had going for them was that they were free. If you are going to pay, why not pay for 365, which is actually an industry standard?
I’m kind of torn here. I had no issues back in the day when Apple still sold iWork as a paid product and you had to pay 129 € to get the newest version of Mac OS. So, the prices of the subscription themselves don’t seem problematic to me. But I do feel this constant push towards selling services and subscriptions does make Apple just less focussed on and less willing to deliver hardware products that are delightful and feel complete on their own.
So if I don't subscribe, I don't get the New AI features? That seems like a good option to me.
Yet another Apple move that's pushing me further away. I bought Final Cut Pro lifetime license now Im not entitled to new features. Guess what? There are alternatives.
Ive been a Mac user for 30+ years and genuinely right now I am more outside the walled garden than in it and this move is another very easy step away.
My next real purchase is a new phone but Apple no longer do small form phones and I have no interest in the Fold. So if I end up going Android which I NEVER thought I would then it will be a very easy move away from Apple after that.
These are seriously bad moves from Apple. There will be a spike in share price (well done Tim good for you) then as the long term effect of what these decisions have caused there will be a long slow fall from grace. Apple used to be 'cool' now they're just like everyone else.
Ive been a Mac user for 30+ years and genuinely right now I am more outside the walled garden than in it and this move is another very easy step away.
My next real purchase is a new phone but Apple no longer do small form phones and I have no interest in the Fold. So if I end up going Android which I NEVER thought I would then it will be a very easy move away from Apple after that.
These are seriously bad moves from Apple. There will be a spike in share price (well done Tim good for you) then as the long term effect of what these decisions have caused there will be a long slow fall from grace. Apple used to be 'cool' now they're just like everyone else.
Most software that offer lifetime licenses are setup that you get bug fixes/patches and you can keep running the software as long as you want. Not getting upgrades for free for life.