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Some Apple Apps Will No Longer Receive Every New Feature Without a Subscription
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So going forward I will not be able to use products I never use now
They’re really bad. Aggressively ugly.
Get used to bending over to pick up the pencil....
Seems to be the new reality spreading like the plaque back in the dark ages...
Seems to be the new reality spreading like the plaque back in the dark ages...
Keynote, Pages, and Numbers will still be free, they just won't have the new stock art and AI stuff. (Which I honestly wouldn't use anyway.)Well, it had to happen eventually…
I do understand some services cost money, but Keynote, Pages, Numbers?… These were the Apple’s flagship apps coming by default….
Because ... it IS! HAHAHAnd why does the numbers icon feel like Apple is flipping me off???
They will evetually ditch one time payment and move to subscription just like they did same thing with Intel to Apple Silicon.
Well they had to finance the Gemini purchase somehow.
It's becoming pretty obvious that AI is expensive. $13/month is no joke! And it doesn't look like Apple is willing to eat the cost. And honestly, I'm fine with that. I have ZERO interest in the AI features, so not getting the subscription is no big deal for me. I use Numbers the most, and they aren't taking features away, so again, I'm just fine with this.
So if I never made the 1 time purchase, I’m paying the subscription and getting the full featured apps. If I paid the 1 time purchase of Pixelmator a FCPX, I have to pay the subscription fee plus what I paid up front. This is the soon to be outgoing CEO taking the bullets for the incoming CEO that probably thought of these ideas. I’ve always understood the “Apple tax”. You pay more but you’re getting quality products that last much longer than their competitors with a better software experience. This is just fleecing.
Will also happen to Apple hardware at some point, just like in leased cars....
You will own nothing!
You will own nothing!
You will own nothing and be happy.
Over the past six months I've migrated from LibreOffice to Pages, Davinci Resolve to Final Cut Pro, Day One to Journal, and I'm a longtime user of Pixelmator. Now... I think I'm going to reverse course and diversify out of this ecosystem.
That's basically how it feels to use Numbers, so they might as well make the icon representative of the experience.And why does the numbers icon feel like Apple is flipping me off???
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I’ve never liked the subscription model. I didn’t mind paying for iWork but Numbers is really the only app I frequently use. I can live without the rest
Keeping the core app and its main features one-time-fee and then locking some ultra-premium AI focused stuff behind a subscription honestly seems fine to me. The only issue I have is we know this is a soft launch, and it’s within their power to move some core features behind the subscription, and that will be a ****** day indeed.
No but Steve Jobs did promise that apps would either be something you paid up-front for or something that was free and you could do an IAP to buy stuff later, and there'd never be convoluted pricing where you had to both pay up-front and then pay again for individual features...
What's with companies that used to have straight-forward pricing doing these unforced pricing blunders? First Nintendo with the Switch 2* and now Apple today.
*can anyone tell me how much a Switch 2 game costs... here, I'll make it easy for you - it's published by Nintendo and I'm in the US. For the Switch 1, the answer was generally $60, with a few exceptions... Zelda TotK was $70 and a few specific games were $10-40. For Switch 2... I can't tell you what any game costs things are so convoluted.
I don’t know if I would give it 4 stars, I feel the iLife suite has always been a 3 star product.
The Keynote, Pages, and Numbers apps are still free. They just have some AI features locked behind the subscription.Well, it had to happen eventually…
I do understand some services cost money, but Keynote, Pages, Numbers?… These were the Apple’s flagship apps coming by default….
You can still buy Pixelmator Pro as a separate app.
Exactly what I expected from Apple when they bought Pixelmator Pro, though I assumed that at some point they'd go to a standalone subscription model for PP. I didn't think they'd shove it into a suite of apps in which you have to subscribe to the entire suite to get new features for only the apps you actually use. For instance, I don't need Final Cut Pro, but apparently I would need to have it as part of Creator Studio in order to get new features in Pixelmator Pro, which I do use on occasion.
Having said that, this is a hard pass for me. Except in very rare instances, I don't do software subscriptions (only apps for specific healthcare purposes). For now, I am fine with the existing features in Pixelmator Pro, Numbers and Pages as they are, so I'm fine with sticking to the free versions of those apps and geting occasional bug fix updates for them.
Having said that, this is a hard pass for me. Except in very rare instances, I don't do software subscriptions (only apps for specific healthcare purposes). For now, I am fine with the existing features in Pixelmator Pro, Numbers and Pages as they are, so I'm fine with sticking to the free versions of those apps and geting occasional bug fix updates for them.
Outside the Apple world their office apps are virtually useless because too limited (in both their features and their compatibility with the only standard that matters, unfortunately: Microsoft).
Nonetheless, since my personal spreadsheets and documents didn't need to be very complicated, and most importantly, to be shared with anyone else, I had started using Numbers and Pages instead of LibreOffice.
I'll have to revert to LibreOffice.
Nonetheless, since my personal spreadsheets and documents didn't need to be very complicated, and most importantly, to be shared with anyone else, I had started using Numbers and Pages instead of LibreOffice.
I'll have to revert to LibreOffice.
the only good part about this is that you can miss out on AI features
eh...because it is? 🤣And why does the numbers icon feel like Apple is flipping me off???
I mean, with all these subscription models, they are essentially flipping us off anyway.
I think a better way to view it as each of these apps now bifurcates into, say Pages and Pages Pro.Well, it had to happen eventually…
I do understand some services cost money, but Keynote, Pages, Numbers?… These were the Apple’s flagship apps coming by default….
Pages does the basics for most of us, people who just want a word processor in which to type content; while Pages Pro is for people who are (essentially) making money from Pages. And so on.
Traditionally this split would have been done via two different apps; but Apple has concluded it's easier to do it via two different "subscriptions".