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Or it’s to do with how journalists sometimes work when they get told information if they publish every nook and cranny then you can pinpoint who it has actually come from

That's a possibility, but it's not like he published some details...he provided nothing. "Some Apple employees concerned" is no more a story than "Apple working on next year's iPhone"
 
That's a possibility, but it's not like he published some details...he provided nothing. "Some Apple employees concerned" is no more a story than "Apple working on next year's iPhone"

What do you guys want?
Existing engineers and other employees to go on the record with their concerns?

They'd get fired.

You're all asking for something that can't happen.

The only alternative is "no info at all", which I don't find appealing as someone who'd rather have some feelings leak out so we can get glimpses of the inner workings and set expectations and discuss.
 
That's a possibility, but it's not like he published some details...he provided nothing. "Some Apple employees concerned" is no more a story than "Apple working on next year's iPhone"

What exactly do you need additional details for?

The top AI boss at Apple left twice in a row for Meta. A bunch of senior AI engineers have left over the past year for the same competitor. Siri and Apple AI has had a rough start. Tim Cook made promises last year and this year about AI.

Do you really need someone to spell out what those concerns would be?
 
Given there's an embedded subscription link in the article, it's clear MacRumors has come to some sort of deal with Gurman where they can basically steal his reporting with impunity. But there are probably limits on what they can say.

It’s a rumors site. This guy deserves a statue on the front page. Funny how people here at a rumors site don’t like the rumors guy. lol.
 
That team has obviously been broken for a long time, hence the reshuffling and departures. Sometimes you have to let people go and rebuild. And any person in management will tell you that you’re not going to get much out of overpaying a clearly unhappy employee to retain them. Works in the short-term, but usually doesn’t fix your root cause.
sure, but the new chief was appointented recently. unless you mean that he was already part of the team for a long time (which he probably was)
 
Thank you for pointing this out.

I've become exhausted discussing how much this situation has been ret-conned by folks trying to downplay what a flop it actually is vs what Apple was hoping from the get go.
Indeed. The original announcement describes a product clearly aimed at general consumers, not “early adopters”, developers, or “prosumers”. Aside from some text about how awesome the technology is, much of the rest of the announcement is about apps/app experiences, capturing/reliving memories (photos/videos), watching movies and TV shows, Facetime with an avatar, and playing Apple Arcade games. If you remove specific references to the technology/hardware it reads like they might as well be selling us a new iPad. Hardly the “revolutionary” tool “spatial computing” was supposed to be.
 
LOL right? Siri is completely useless and even ios26 sucks plus autocorrect got worse! I asked Siri for a 50 minute timer, while wearing my Apple Watch Ultra and wearing AirPod pro 2 and with an iPhone 16 pro max. The timer wasn’t set. I missed a personal goal. Siri is useless.

I’ve also noticed that something got worse here. On Apple Watch, Siri used to give a clear verbal response/confirmation when you set a timer. Now it (sometimes?) skips that and just silently pops up the tiny clock widget when it sets a timer. It’s easy to miss this visual confirmation if you’re looking away, so it seems like it failed, and I try again only to see the timer was, in fact, set.
 
Gurman is a 💩 disturber.

I wouldn't expect an alpha product that's being released in 6 months to be polished at this point.

For Craig to say that it looks promising and that they'll be able to fulfill beyond just the announced features, I think that's meaningful. Sure, no doubt part of what Federighi said could be PR spin but Apple doesn't have to say anything and traditionally doesn't.

He also said they weren't going to announce a date until they have something they know they can deliver. They were burned once with Siri's previous leadership (or lack thereof), I don't think they're going to release something that'll embarrass them again.
 
“Some employees have concerns”
Well of course they would, LLMs are a constant source of ethical and practical conc-

“"concerns" about the overhauled Siri's performance.”
It’s gonna suck isn’t it
 
It seems Apple has to decide if it has to hold on to "Privacy" or embrace "AI". Apparently, both cannot thrive together!

And there’s your conundrum. We just had an article saying be careful of using Facebook ai to do collages. They’ll scrape your pics.

What does anyone think an llm chat agent on your iPhone will do? On device only?

It has to be cloud based. But Apple has to train it. With what you ask? Nevermind their ai employees are leaving. No one there is qualified to lead it. They’re looking externally.

You want apples version of ChatGPT on your phone. That isn’t trivial. But do you really want this. Your info will be scraped.

I’m ok with Apple taking their time. There’s other apps to use. I’m not much of a heavy user of chat bots. But meanwhile companies are looking to doing just this.
 
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if there are concerns, don’t release it. Apple will be more harmed releasing a bad product than something people are not even clamoring for.
Just fix autocorrect.
 
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The top AI boss at Apple left twice in a row for Meta. A bunch of senior AI engineers have left over the past year for the same competitor. Siri and Apple AI has had a rough start. Tim Cook made promises last year and this year about AI.

Do you really need someone to spell out what those concerns would be?
I think Meta offering these individuals $200 Million+ would shade any other possible motivations they might or might not have.
 
What exactly do you need additional details for?

The top AI boss at Apple left twice in a row for Meta. A bunch of senior AI engineers have left over the past year for the same competitor. Siri and Apple AI has had a rough start. Tim Cook made promises last year and this year about AI.

Do you really need someone to spell out what those concerns would be?

No, I'm well aware of what the concerns might be (though I'm not particularly concerned that some Apple employees would be willing to leave for obscene and unjustifiable pay packages from Meta). But absent any details at all the only conclusion is that Gurman has none.

Which leads me back to: "Some Apple employees concerned" is no more a story than "Apple working on next year's iPhone."
 
What do you guys want?
Existing engineers and other employees to go on the record with their concerns?

They'd get fired.

You're all asking for something that can't happen.

The only alternative is "no info at all", which I don't find appealing as someone who'd rather have some feelings leak out so we can get glimpses of the inner workings and set expectations and discuss.

We got actually good reporting on this from Gurman (I believe) and others after WWDC 2024. They relayed this like what the actual concerns were, why certain things were happening, what leadership was thinking, etc.

This, by contrast, is nothing more than a cliché.
 
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here is all it needs to be. Listen to what I say, type it into chatgpt, read me back the answer, preferably in short form and without a question at the end. That is literally all that is needed and should be within the range of what Siri could do now since it would just offload everything other than speech recognition and dictation to chatgpt
 
I think Meta offering these individuals $200 Million+ would shade any other possible motivations they might or might not have.
It also implies that AI is not a stable, long-term career move. Grab the big money now, because the bubble’s going to burst.

It’s also worth keeping in mind that, when Meta latches on to whatever the “big new thing” is, they massively overspend on it, and have to backpedal equally massively, reducing their workforce again.

Because that’s exactly what happened with “the Metaverse”.
 
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Oh, can you show me someone who has launched a device as successful as Apple Watch or Airpods since then? Vision Pro sold more than Apple predicted. The AI "race" hasn't even started, just a giant rush to find a way to make money.

I own an Apple Watch and Air pods pro 3, both great devices. Apple watch and Airpods are not iPhone moments. Vision Pro didn't sell as well as Apple predicted, leaks have already said that. It's overpriced and far too heavy with a battery life that doesn't last.

The AI race has started and Google is winning, Gemini is by far the best AI assistant out there. Siri is a joke compared to Gemini and that's coming from someone who uses an iPhone, Mac, iPad, Apple Watch, Airpods, Apple TV and Homepod.

Rumours are saying Apple will release a MacBook with touchscreen, something Steve Jobs was against. iOS 26 is buggy as hell with liquid glass buggy in a lot of places. Again I'm an iPhone guy. I've not upgraded my iPhone since my 15 Pro Max, where as years before I would upgrade yearly. Apple are becoming boring and complacent. Let's hope the foldable will change that.
 
here is all it needs to be. Listen to what I say, type it into chatgpt, read me back the answer, preferably in short form and without a question at the end. That is literally all that is needed and should be within the range of what Siri could do now since it would just offload everything other than speech recognition and dictation to chatgpt
Except for the promised “privacy”. That’s the elephant in the room.
 
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