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Love how people here defend apple like their life depends on it or like they are THE major shareholder that depend on the sales. People like this need a lobotomy.
 
Love how people here defend apple like their life depends on it or like they are THE major shareholder that depend on the sales. People like this need a lobotomy.

So, what on earth is your comment about; non sequitur like your life depends on it... Seems like it...

Also, good that you are entertained by the tone of the comments (why else would you be here otherwise, since you have no interest in the subject itself) (sic) and yes, I own a good bit of Apple stock since 2002... So, probably not unbiased when I see a FUD fest where over the top drama queens pile in high on emo and low on facts (bendgate,tattoogate, hapticgate, deliverygate, "whatevergate", etc) (sic).
 
Maybe for very short distance like a walk around your street but for long distance it's garbage compared to GPS. I run marathons and wouldn't use anything other than GPS such as Garmin Forerunner.

I just told you the resolution of the GPS buddy. Since the GPS is so unprecise you're not even getting an accurate tempo/speed from it, you're getting it from the accelerometer on your Garmin watch.

BTW, plenty of people have run without a GPS for a very long time, so please spare your glib comment.

The GPS is good for is point to point distances, and tempo on longer distances (a block) which enables the variance to be averaged through software (or even corrected by the accelerometer) and the trajectory mostly consists of long lines. Its also good obviously to see were you've gone; but that's not a prerequisite when your running in your own neighborhood. The fact that it kills the battery, which means you need a much bigger watch, or not to wear it all day (just to exercise or exercise/plain watch).

On the Apple watch, carrying the phones a few times on the first runs GPS can be used is calibrating the ground speed to arm movement/stride to calibrate it beyond the defaults (there are some variances between individuals).

You run/walk 20 minutes at a constant speed/tempo for the watch to learn how your movements matches your ground distance (why 20 minutes and not less, because GPS IS NOT THAT PRECISE and you need to average things out).

The cool thing is that once you got that, you get very good measurements with a phone; you could even get an accurate distance/tempo on a treadmill (without having to manually enter it yourself from the treadmills reading) or indoors (walking or running).
 
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Everyone seems to be getting their panties in a bundle...

Frankly I think this resonates with what I've been saying all along, the Apple Watch is overhyped and not all that useful in its current form. Although, the fact you can actually rinse and clean the watch with water, without fear of damage, is a good thing. Chances are, the people who have sticky crowns are those who get lotion or other junk on it from slathering crap all over their hands, if so, I count them as lucky for having something they can actually get dirty and clean up in a jiff. Just depends on how you see it.
 
So, what on earth is your comment about; non sequitur like your life depends on it... Seems like it...

Also, good that you are entertained by the tone of the comments (why else would you be here otherwise, since you have no interest in the subject itself) (sic) and yes, I own a good bit of Apple stock since 2002... So, probably not unbiased when I see a FUD fest where over the top drama queens pile in high on emo and low on facts (bendgate,tattoogate, hapticgate, deliverygate, "whatevergate", etc) (sic).

First of all, Non Sequiter like your life depends on it? LOL! That doesn't even make any sense.:confused:

Second of all, if you really are a shareholder, you should really direct your ire at apple for making some poor choices in regards to OEM suppliers (AAC) and design (sticky crown). A few people on macrumors having some fun with apple won't affect the stock. Okay?:rolleyes:
 
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First of all, Non Sequiter like your life depends on it? LOL! That doesn't even make any sense.:confused:

Second of all, if you really are a shareholder, you should really direct your ire at apple for making some poor choices in regards to OEM suppliers (AAC) and design (sticky crown). A few people on macrumors having some fun with apple won't affect the stock. Okay?:rolleyes:

Yes it makes sense; the comment doesn't follow logic or the subject. The added "as if your life depends on it", just means you're pushing being irrelevant to a new level. You have a commitment to it.

As for the rest, there is no bad design, just some spurious anecdotes of dubious scope and quick easy fixes. That's it.

According to you I should have been "mad" at Apple in September when that "bendgate" idiocy ran rampant for weeks generating 10K messages, instead of being mad at the relatively small group posting FUD all day long. I know who made me mad and it is not Apple.

Think selling 134M Iphones in 6 months and from October on, not hearing a peep about Iphone issues, is a pretty good hint that I shouldn't care about the kind of FUD garbage that's tossed regularly every time a new Apple product is released.

Making tons of money also usually doesn't make me mad..
 
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Yes it makes sense; the comment doesn't follow logic or the subject. The added "as if your life depends on it", just means you're pushing being irrelevant to a new level. You have a commitment to it.
But his conclusion did logically follow his argument. You're digging yourself in deeper.

As for the rest, there is no bad design, just some spurious anecdotes of dubious scope and quick easy fixes. That's it.
Apple released a support doc for the "sticky crown" problem. No company, not even apple, releases a support doc for spurious anecdotal problems. Do you not know what spurious means?


According to you I should have been "mad" at Apple in September when that "bendgate" idiocy ran rampant for weeks generating 10K messages, instead of being mad at the relatively small group posting FUD all day long. I know who made me mad and it is not Apple.

No, according to me, you should be mad at apple for picking acc as a parts supplier since a number of their haptic motors are faulty. Those faulty motors are slowing the product roll out. Having your product release slowed by a faulty component is a real problem and not a spurious one.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-watch-faulty-taptic-engine-slows-roll-out-1430339460

You should be mad at apple for designing a digital crown that accumulates sweat and dust then becomes difficult to move or unmovable without a good rinse.
http://business.financialpost.com/b...cky-and-apple-says-put-it-under-running-water


Think selling 134M Iphones in 6 months and from October on, not hearing a peep about Iphone issues, is a pretty good hint that I shouldn't care about the kind of FUD garbage that's tossed regularly every time a new Apple product is released.

Making tons of money also usually doesn't make me mad..

Why this need to call everything your don't agree with FUD.

Not hearing a peep about iphone 6 issues?

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...g-issues-possibly-tied-to-large-app-libraries

http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/10/iphone-6-issues-bendgate-hairgate-dyegate-burngate/
 
But his conclusion did logically follow his argument. You're digging yourself in deeper.


Apple released a support doc for the "sticky crown" problem. No company, not even apple, releases a support doc for spurious anecdotal problems. Do you not know what spurious means?




No, according to me, you should be mad at apple for picking acc as a parts supplier since a number of their haptic motors are faulty. Those faulty motors are slowing the product roll out. Having your product release slowed by a faulty component is a real problem and not a spurious one.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-watch-faulty-taptic-engine-slows-roll-out-1430339460

You should be mad at apple for designing a digital crown that accumulates sweat and dust then becomes difficult to move or unmovable without a good rinse.
http://business.financialpost.com/b...cky-and-apple-says-put-it-under-running-water




Why this need to call everything your don't agree with FUD.

Not hearing a peep about iphone 6 issues?

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...g-issues-possibly-tied-to-large-app-libraries

http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/10/iphone-6-issues-bendgate-hairgate-dyegate-burngate/

He did not. I know how to read.
Seriously, think you need to get the definitions for: FUD, non sequitur and concern trolling, that's basically the whole content of his posts.

As for the rest,

Six months ago, when the Iphone got released, a flood of posts said the same thing your pal is claiming about the "bendgate" idiocy. Apple this, Apple that, design flaw, etc, etc. Then, the crowd switched for 6 months to thousand posts about the watches' crappy battery life and its price and how Apple is for suckers and it won't sell (sic); on and on and on. Of course, with the battery life being spectacular for such a small device and sales being great, the ADHD crowd had to move on to some other shiny target. Doesn't matter what is really, as long as it is "shiny" (firefly reference obviously).

It is a good thing I don't sell Apple stock on their say so.

As for the rest, anecdotes and online squeaky wheel posts means nothing to me.

Someone who makes assertion such as him, has to prove them.
Demonstrate
- Significant prevalence; will it happen to many owners?
- Widespread scope; will it occur no matter how you use the product?
- Severity of issue; are most devices with this broken?
- That it's non user serviceable; can the user fix it himself?
- That Servicing/helping people with this issue is not being done.
- A design fault (what bud up there has plainly affirmed, without proof, just like people were saying in September about the phone, when the bending idiocy occurred).

You can claim that this is an extraordinary burden.
Well, when people make big claims, they need big proofs.

Otherwise, it is FUD.

I'm not going to get further into this because I've already spend 100+ posts on this kind of thing 7 months ago and this will basically be a retread ; you can search them for my opinion on all that matter.
 
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Wow, that was a lot of words to simply say, you are not a fan of the Apple Watch. I don't know what to say to people like you, but for me, my experience thus far has far exceeded any expectations I had for the Watch.

The fitness tracking alone is worth it to me for my daily runs and exercise. The text messaging and phone calls save me a ton of time as I can leave my phone in another room or in my backpack and still be productive. Heck, you can keep your phone off and still text and email in wi-fi areas, now that's cool.

Battery issues? I am charging my phone less now and my Watch is going for 2-3 days and I am using it for a morning run, wearing most of the day and texting and phone calls.

It's fine that you don't want one, don't like it, etc. but don't rain on other's happiness as there are quite a few of us that love our Watches and not just because they look cool on our wrists.

I am really glad to hear you are having a good experience with it. I might be pleasantly surprised once mine arrives. There's always the possibility for that, however let's all agree that there's room enough for all of us to share our thoughts. And, hopefully, at least I don't think I advised anyone against buying one for themselves.
 
Since the GPS is so unprecise you're not even getting an accurate tempo/speed from it, you're getting it from the accelerometer on your Garmin watch.

Not necessarily. If your pace changes, or the ground is different (as in running uphill), the accelerometer will be inaccurate as to distance.

On the Apple watch, carrying the phones a few times on the first runs GPS can be used is calibrating...

Yes, there's a reason why GPS is used to calibrate. It dos not accrue error over time and distance like an accelerometer does. If it's off by 10 meters in any location, it'll be off by max 20 meters even if you ran a 42 kilometer marathon. An accelerometer, if it's off by 10 meters per kilometer, could easily be off by several hundred meters. (Which we can see happening in accelerometer vs GPS tests.)

To some people, that's okay. To others, it matters a lot. Especially, as noted above, if they don't run on flat ground.
 
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Digital Crown FIX

Hey everyone,

I was able to fix my digital crown shortly after I started to experience the "sticky crown" issue. I tried to run it under water for 15 seconds with it only helping for a little bit. I then flossed the crown with a piece of easy glide dental floss. Make sure to use only the easy glide kind (its almost like a flat skinny ribbon dental floss). After flossing the crown it started working like new again. I didn't notice anything in particular coming out from under the crown but maybe a bit of white dust like stuff. It worked through, so I thought I would share.
 
I then flossed the crown with a piece of easy glide dental floss. Make sure to use only the easy glide kind (its almost like a flat skinny ribbon dental floss). After flossing the crown it started working like new again.

Brilliant!

Plus, you may very well have invented the next hot As-Seen-On-TV product:

"New! Ronco's Digital Crown Floss ... clean your Apple Watch crown the easy way!... and if you order now, we'll send you TWO boxes for ONLY $19.99 !"
 
"But wait! For a limited time, we'll include a box of miniature q-tips to reach inside the speaker/mic orifices. What are you waiting for? Call 1-800 now!"
 
No. I'm a mechanical engineer who used to work for NASA. I've piloted the International Space Station. I know a thing or two about engineering.

Saying, "moving parts in any machine do wear out and will eventually break" and using it as an argument against the use of a crown on the Apple Watch is absurd. There are working mechanical devices that are many hundreds of years old. They'll last many hundreds more. There are working 100% mechanical watches older you, me and our parents combined.

I guess you could always go for a 100% solid state Galaxy Gear with its 4 hour battery life...

1. I love your "NASA attitude"! :rolleyes:

2. If you ever owned a Rolex or Glashuette watch, you would know that these mechanical watches need MRO services quite frequently as well. Everything that moves, has any friction – wears out. For example a Rolex needs a revision within 3-5 years. Even our SSDs wear out, because on the atomic level the floating gates of a Flash drive wear out...

There are no watches working 100% without maintenance for more than a decade. But if NASA says otherwise, I may reconsider my post here. :D

3. By the way, I actually live on Mars – looking forward to meeting you here in 69 years ;)
 
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Starting to see this on my SS model. Feels like it's stuck, but then it scrolls normally.
 
Mine became horribly sticky when used with one finger (and pressure at an angle), but smooth with both fingers. Running under lukewarm water a few seconds resolved the issue completely. I believe it was dried sweat (salt) as I wear my sports edition watch while exercising daily.
 
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