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I'm one of the unlucky ones whose Apple Card was declined during pre-order. I generated a new card from my Wallet, still declined, so I decided to use a different card (I'm sure y'all know how frustrating it was in that short window of pre-order trying to muck around finding a different card and typing in every little information all over again).

Now, my pre-order went through, received shipping notification today for tomorrow's delivery.

HOWEVER, the saga didn't end there. The automated payment with my iPhone 12 loan with Citizens One just got declined ("Card replaced"). And I was like.. of course. I then logged in to Citizens One and updated the payment method using the new Apple Card numbers. I called them asking if there's any way to check if this will go through this time, I was told no way for them to force/manual pay the loan. It has to wait for the next scheduled attempt.

It doesn't stop there! I just received another notification on my iPhone 13 loan with Citizens One, also got declined ("Incorrect Card Information"). I called Apple Card, they suggested me trying to generate another new card number and see if it goes through. Maybe I should just give up the 3% reward and use a different card for my loan as well.. *sigh*
Exact same sitch here ...
  • In the panic/chaos at 5:02am I generated a new AC number thinking that would help, nope.
  • Used my regular Visa for my 13 PM order and got a 9/24 pick up 👍
  • Next day I was able to enter my new AC number into the new loan for 13 PM 👍
  • I forgot about updating the loan for my 12 P, got the "declined payment" notice 😖
  • Updated loan for my 12 P with new AC number, went through but "card declined" error 10 min later 😲
  • Re-entered new AC number for 12 P loan, seemed to take, then declined, but went through after 15 min 🙄
Just checked AC transactions again and my final 12 P payment went through. So maybe wait, or maybe re-enter it in your loan info in case you got the number, security code, or address wrong? I would not tempt fate by generating a new AC number again.
 
I just got an email saying mine failed yet again. What the heck is going on...weird.
Don’t worry, Apple will be introducing Apple Card Pro year. It will be Apple’s most pro Apple Card ever. In the meantime, get ready to be blamed for what is clearly an issue with the Apple Card and new iPhone Upgrade Program loans. After all, everything Apple does is to delight their customers, so if you aren’t delighted, you simply aren’t accepting what Apple is offering.
 
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Six days later, I'm still in upgrade hell here, though there's been some progress. No one (who is willing to tell) can say what the problem is, but bizarrely, I can't make ANY purchase from the Apple Store with my AppleID (not the PRE-APPROVED iPhone 13 preorder; not even a $9 headphone jack adapter.)

Support finally gave up and got me "in line" by creating a totally new AppleID and placing my preorder. Which suggests the problem had nothing to do with actual payment (as Goldman Sachs and Citizens Bank said from the beginning) and everything to do with Apple's ordering system. The payment request was, in fact, never made, despite the Store saying over and over that "payment authorization failed" or some other pay-side error.

So I finally have a preorder for my 13 now, BUT:
  • I'm literally last in line instead of first like I was at 5am Friday, which translates to six weeks later estimated delivery.
  • I lost almost a full week of my life and dozens of hours on the phone with Apple Support.
  • I had to bail from the iPhone Upgrade Plan (while still owing 13 months on the previous phone).
  • I had to purchase outright rather than upgrading (since Citizens Bank owns the current phone).
  • I now have to figure out how to move my purchase from the new temporary AppleID to my REAL one.
  • I also have to figure out how to convert my purchase into an upgrade AFTER I pay out from the loan, or I'll end up with $800 in iTunes ƒüçking Gift Cards. :mad: ... What, won't Citizens Bank takes Gift Cards as loan payments? ;)
  • I'm at the mercy of the market to retain my old phone's value until Apple can sort all this out—I'd be not surprised at all if my 12 is worth several hundred less this time next month after the flood of other people also trading up.
  • I'll still will have to sort out the multiple AppleIDs issue and get Apple to unlock my current ID so that I can make Apple Store purchases in the future.
Luckily, the Apple Support members I've worked with have been eager to help, even when they've been unsuccessful. I only hope I cost Apple Corp. as much in paying those good people as I lost in work time this week. *sigh*
 
Six days later, I'm still in upgrade hell here, though there's been some progress. No one (who is willing to tell) can say what the problem is, but bizarrely, I can't make ANY purchase from the Apple Store with my AppleID (not the PRE-APPROVED iPhone 13 preorder; not even a $9 headphone jack adapter.)

Support finally gave up and got me "in line" by creating a totally new AppleID and placing my preorder. Which suggests the problem had nothing to do with actual payment (as Goldman Sachs and Citizens Bank said from the beginning) and everything to do with Apple's ordering system. The payment request was, in fact, never made, despite the Store saying over and over that "payment authorization failed" or some other pay-side error.

So I finally have a preorder for my 13 now, BUT:
  • I'm literally last in line instead of first like I was at 5am Friday, which translates to six weeks later estimated delivery.
  • I lost almost a full week of my life and dozens of hours on the phone with Apple Support.
  • I had to bail from the iPhone Upgrade Plan (while still owing 13 months on the previous phone).
  • I had to purchase outright rather than upgrading (since Citizens Bank owns the current phone).
  • I now have to figure out how to move my purchase from the new temporary AppleID to my REAL one.
  • I also have to figure out how to convert my purchase into an upgrade AFTER I pay out from the loan, or I'll end up with $800 in iTunes ƒüçking Gift Cards. :mad: ... What, won't Citizens Bank takes Gift Cards as loan payments? ;)
  • I'm at the mercy of the market to retain my old phone's value until Apple can sort all this out—I'd be not surprised at all if my 12 is worth several hundred less this time next month after the flood of other people also trading up.
  • I'll still will have to sort out the multiple AppleIDs issue and get Apple to unlock my current ID so that I can make Apple Store purchases in the future.
Luckily, the Apple Support members I've worked with have been eager to help, even when they've been unsuccessful. I only hope I cost Apple Corp. as much in paying those good people as I lost in work time this week. *sigh*
I called Citizens One after I got the email, you cant even speak to a real person. The IVR just says to call Apple, on chat with AC folks now, after 30 minutes no resolution.

Has anyone had Apple tell them they had to upgrade to IOS 15 to get their AC to work?
 
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I called Citizens One after I got the email, you cant even speak to a real person. The IVR just says to call Apple, on chat with AC folks now, after 30 minutes no resolution.

Has anyone had Apple tell them they had to upgrade to IOS 15 to get their AC to work?
Get comfortable. If you tried to use your Apple Card to process an iPhone Upgrade Program purchase, you're in for a long ride. Escalate your request—it's a known issue now. At least you're not alone.

I was asked what version iOS — I'm current, so wasn't "made" to upgrade. But it didn't solve anything.
 
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I'm one of the unlucky ones whose Apple Card was declined during pre-order. I generated a new card from my Wallet, still declined, so I decided to use a different card (I'm sure y'all know how frustrating it was in that short window of pre-order trying to muck around finding a different card and typing in every little information all over again).

Now, my pre-order went through, received shipping notification today for tomorrow's delivery.

HOWEVER, the saga didn't end there. The automated payment with my iPhone 12 loan with Citizens One just got declined ("Card replaced"). And I was like.. of course. I then logged in to Citizens One and updated the payment method using the new Apple Card numbers. I called them asking if there's any way to check if this will go through this time, I was told no way for them to force/manual pay the loan. It has to wait for the next scheduled attempt.

It doesn't stop there! I just received another notification on my iPhone 13 loan with Citizens One, also got declined ("Incorrect Card Information"). I called Apple Card, they suggested me trying to generate another new card number and see if it goes through. Maybe I should just give up the 3% reward and use a different card for my loan as well.. *sigh*
Sorry about the never ending snafu.....hope you get everything sorted out soon. At least you're getting your phone tomorrow, right? Mine was apparently shipped from here within CA. I guess this must have been one of their "oops I messed up but I'll find you a phone" stashes.
 
Today I called Apple to see if they can help. Apple said they'd transfer me to Citizens One.

I asked Apple not to transfer me but they put me on hold and then transferred me anyway.

Citizens One again more or less said we'll call you when we call you.
I called Apple a few more times, and they kept transferring me to Citizens One despite me asking for more help from someone higher at Apple.

During my last call, I asked to speak to level 2 support and they said someone would call shortly but no one called. I'm gathering the level 2 Apple person knew of me already based on my calls and was good with just ignoring me.

I finally sent T-dog an email asking for help figuring out what on earth is going on with my Citizens One delay. I figure there's a small chance Apple will reach out to me today.

Failing that I guess it's time to exit the iPhone upgrade program and switch to paying cash. Apple Card monthly installments aren't a great option for me with multiple phones.

I love Apple! However the support I received trying to spend a bunch of money to buy something was not good at all.
 
Get comfortable. If you tried to use your Apple Card to process an iPhone Upgrade Program purchase, you're in for a long ride. Escalate your request—it's a known issue now. At least you're not alone.

I was asked what version iOS — I'm current, so wasn't "made" to upgrade. But it didn't solve anything.
Yup. Got my case #.
 
Sounds like i'm having the same problem as everyone else. My Apple Card got declined during the Upgrade Program Pre-Order. Replaced with VISA. Then I updated my Citizens One info to use my Apple Card again. Automatic payment to Citizens One got declined yesterday due to "Wrong card information". So I checked everything, and it's right. So for some reason, Citizens One and Apple Card are not compatible and getting my 3% off seems impossible.
 
Sounds like i'm having the same problem as everyone else. My Apple Card got declined during the Upgrade Program Pre-Order. Replaced with VISA. Then I updated my Citizens One info to use my Apple Card again. Automatic payment to Citizens One got declined yesterday due to "Wrong card information". So I checked everything, and it's right. So for some reason, Citizens One and Apple Card are not compatible and getting my 3% off seems impossible.
Did you update your new loan number? I had to create a new entry with my new loan number, and the first change from my Visa to AC failed, the second change failed but then the AC went through after about 15 minutes (this was yesterday, and seems to be OK still).
 
Good lord, what a lot of nonsense you customers or victims of Apple are going through to buy a phone. Whenever I purchase a great non Apple phone I simply visit a local store, am greeted with smiles and efficiency and pay with my bank debit or credit card. Within minutes I am enjoying the new phone and do not have to spend hours or days on a helpline begging or cajoling someone from Apple to please take my money and give me a phone. We all make choices...
 
Did you update your new loan number? I had to create a new entry with my new loan number, and the first change from my Visa to AC failed, the second change failed but then the AC went through after about 15 minutes (this was yesterday, and seems to be OK still).
Yes, I added in my new loan number and added my Apple Card as the payment setting. Citizens One tried to draw the first payment from it last night, and I got a notification from Wallet that it was declined.
 

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Yes, I added in my new loan number and added my Apple Card as the payment setting. Citizens One tried to draw the first payment from it last night, and I got a notification from Wallet that it was declined.
Looks familiar 😣
I re-entered my AC card info, thinking I may have made a typo, and it failed again. Then without me doing anything it went through. Maybe try re-entering AC info?
 
Looks familiar 😣
I re-entered my AC card info, thinking I may have made a typo, and it failed again. Then without me doing anything it went through. Maybe try re-entering AC info?
Thanks, I re-entered it everything as a new payment method to be safe. Did you manually submit a payment? Or should I wait for it to auto-draft again? I don't see a new charge attempts in Wallet.
 
Thanks, I re-entered it everything as a new payment method to be safe. Did you manually submit a payment? Or should I wait for it to auto-draft again? I don't see a new charge attempts in Wallet.
To be clear, my current 12 Pro loan had the AC issue (because I had changed my AC number in the panic of my upgrade renewal not going through). For my old 12 Pro loan, after entering (and re-entering) my AC number I manually pushed my final payment on my 12 Pro and it gave me a pop-up that I'm on autopay, and it went through a few minutes later.

For my 13 PM loan, I started the loan with my regular Visa, and when I created the new loan on Citizen's site it accepted my Visa number, then I added my new AC number as the payment source and it went through automatically yesterday (a few days after I created the loan on Citizen's site).

So keep checking your AC transaction history for the next few hours, if it does not go through then try to push a payment and monitor what happens.
 
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How does one “manually submit” payment? Citizens One rep I talked to on the phone told me that’s not possible. They have a prescheduled automated withdrawal once a day or something.
 
How does one “manually submit” payment? Citizens One rep I talked to on the phone told me that’s not possible. They have a prescheduled automated withdrawal once a day or something.
When you log into your Citizen account and select your loan number, there is a "Make a Payment" link off to the right. When I clicked on that, a pop-up informed me that I'm on an automated payment schedule (strange that they even have a link to make a manual payment). Even though I got that pop-up, and apparently nothing happened right then, my payment did go through shortly afterwards. Maybe it was a coincidence with the time of day they make payment attempts, or because my payment had been declined earlier in the day due to this AC debacle, maybe the automated process runs more frequently until successful. Who knows?

But there is a link to make a manual payment, whether or not it actually works is a mystery.
 
When you log into your Citizen account and select your loan number, there is a "Make a Payment" link off to the right. When I clicked on that, a pop-up informed me that I'm on an automated payment schedule (strange that they even have a link to make a manual payment). Even though I got that pop-up, and apparently nothing happened right then, my payment did go through shortly afterwards. Maybe it was a coincidence with the time of day they make payment attempts, or because my payment had been declined earlier in the day due to this AC debacle, maybe the automated process runs more frequently until successful. Who knows?

But there is a link to make a manual payment, whether or not it actually works is a mystery.
Yeah, no. Not working for me. I’ve been repeatedly doing that for both loan accounts, nothing happened. Even worse, the automated schedule doesn’t seem to be happening either now..
 
Nice congrats! I emailed t-dawg on Thursday but no news yet. I must not be as good at writing emails as you guys.
I benchmarked the btrach144 standard which means be brief and indirectly show a history of love from multiple customers. I included my phone number and Apple ID. Ultimately I was just looking for help to complete a purchase and so that's a logical thing for Apple to follow up on. And truth be told, I would have found a way sooner or later, but having help made me feel a lot better.

This Ted Lasso Emmy's speech is where the T-dawg nickname came from:
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I benchmarked the btrach144 standard which means be brief and indirectly show a history of love from multiple customers. Ultimately I was just looking for help to complete a purchase and so that's a logical thing for Apple to follow up on. And truth be told, I would have found a way sooner or later, but having help made me feel a lot better.

This Ted Lasso Emmy's speech is where the T-dawg nickname came from:
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Dam I should have consulted you guys before sending my email. Now that I look at it I didn’t really ask for help directly. It was more of a summary of my iPhone upgrade loyalty and a complaint how the process went this time. I was eventually able to check out and get a Oct 6-11 delivery so maybe there is less of a chance I get help.
 
Dam I should have consulted you guys before sending my email. Now that I look at it I didn’t really ask for help directly. It was more of a summary of my iPhone upgrade loyalty and a complaint how the process went this time. I was eventually able to check out and get a Oct 6-11 delivery so maybe there is less of a chance I get help.
Yeah I had no clue either. And Google returns lots of advice and stories about how to contact him.

This isn't the greatest parallel but its sort of like ordering soup on Seinfeld. "One lobster bisque please [step sideways]".

It seems like you have to know the process.
 
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