Do you know of any top successful app on iPhone or Mac that was done using these “write once run everywhere“ platforms?I really do not realize how is this worse than “write one specific version for each platform there is”?
Do you know of any top successful app on iPhone or Mac that was done using these “write once run everywhere“ platforms?I really do not realize how is this worse than “write one specific version for each platform there is”?
It's not like it's not already possible to watch Netflix on Mac...Once again, I am baffled at Netflix' contempt for Mac users. Screw you, too!
Apple says makes porting iPad apps to the Mac as easy as checking a box in Xcode.
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MacRumors Article said:Thomson said the Mac version initially "looked like an iPad app floating on a larger Mac screen," so he had to redesign much of the user interface.
How dare you come in with easily discoverable information that shows how lazy journalists have become?Say whaaaat?
If Apple had only made expressedly clear in their Catalyst focused WWDC sessions that Catalyst would only give you an easy entry point for porting your iPad app to macOS, and that this porting process would require a lot of adaptations to the new platform, including UI redesigns.
Oh, wait… they have.
Nonsense.
Apple has made absolutely clear that AppKit will remain the first choice for the development of dedicated Mac apps, and that Catalyst is only a transitional technology simplifying ports of existing apps from iPadOS to macOS. They also made absolutely clear that if you want to start developing a new crossplatform app right now, SwiftUI is the method of choice or at least will be in the long run. This is the future, not Catalyst.
Once again, I am baffled at Netflix' contempt for Mac users. Screw you, too!
Apple says makes porting iPad apps to the Mac as easy as checking a box in Xcode.
Enough said
Except that is not what Apple ever said. They are very clear that to get a good Mac app still requires some work, specifically for the issues raised by the developers quoted. The real question is will this be a small amount of work making it worth doing for some developers, or a large amount of work, making it not worth it.
As for the quote that the future of macOS development is Catalyst, that’s just wrong. The future is SwiftUI. It makes creating UIs for each device easy, with core code running on all the different platforms.
Mac users being an insignificant fraction of all users, what exactly do you expect? Blame Apple for high hardware prices.Once again, I am baffled at Netflix' contempt for Mac users. Screw you, too!
And it's even more complicated than that. Mobile and PC interfaces are different in two fundamental ways:Except that is not what Apple ever said. They are very clear that to get a good Mac app still requires some work, specifically for the issues raised by the developers quoted. The real question is will this be a small amount of work making it worth doing for some developers, or a large amount of work, making it not worth it.
As for the quote that the future of macOS development is Catalyst, that’s just wrong. The future is SwiftUI. It makes creating UIs for each device easy, with core code running on all the different platforms.
Mac users being an insignificant fraction of all users, what exactly do you expect? Blame Apple for high hardware prices.
Tim Cook’s Apple: over-promise, under-deliver
Using that reasoning, one might argue that Netflix might want to attract Mac owners more, since Mac owners might be less likely to "share" passwords or more likely to subscribe to higher priced tiers for 4K streaming.
Majority of people watching Netflix on a Mac already watch it in the browser. Your rationale for why Netflix should be concerned about this is just asinine.
Meet subscription based apps… all platforms included. Instead, you pay for the same app over and over againuntil you don't, then the app is gone on all platforms. Very clean solution...
So what if he’s on a computer? This mindset is laughable and so stuck in its old way.What exactly is wrong with the website? Why does everyone need everything to be an app? You're on a computer! Use the website!
On Windows, the Netflix app offers functionality that is not offered in any web browser apart from Microsoft Edge: the ability to play 4K Ultra HD streams.Majority of people watching Netflix on a Mac already watch it in the browser. Your rationale for why Netflix should be concerned about this is just asinine.
Having an iPad app look like "an iPad app floating on a larger Mac screen" doesn't surprise me. Apple may have overpromised, but I think of it this way: You check a checkbox and your iPad app magically runs on macOS, for free, meaning without extra effort on your part. The basic conversions are done for you. Now, in most cases, you can (and probably need to) make other changes to optimize the look and feel.
I'm not surprised that only a limited set of apps turn out perfectly suited for macOS after the automatic conversion, and Apple will make adjustments to Mac Catalyst so that it'll meet the hype for more and more types of apps. I guess that makes me an optimistic realist.
Slack?Do you know of any top successful app on iPhone or Mac that was done using these “write once run everywhere“ platforms?
On Windows, the Netflix app offers functionality that is not offered in any web browser apart from Microsoft Edge: the ability to play 4K Ultra HD streams.
Alan Gordon’s point was that if Netflix were to release a Mac app that supported 4K streaming (something not supported via Safari), some Mac users would subscribe to Netflix’s premium Ultra HD plan.
And Gordon is entirely right. I watch Netflix on an iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019) that has all the hardware needed to play 5K 10-bit HDR video, but currently Netflix limits me to 1080p, so I subscribe to their mid-tier HD plan instead.
Before you dismiss other folks’ reasoning as “asinine,” you might want to take the trouble to know what you’re talking about.
plenty of services such as Netflix, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter should have an app for macOS.
Slack?
Who said you must live without PCalc for Mac?But how will we live with[out?] PCCalc and Lightsout?
Not necessarily. Apple has dropped some not too subtle hints that they might reject lazy "floating iPad apps" which haven't seen any proper adaptation to the Mac.And I'd argue the Macrumors article editorialized a bit in the "had to redesign" the UI. He CHOSE to redesign the UI.
Crappy apps which aren't properly tuned to the different sensibilities of desktop apps. iPad apps require a completely different UI spacing, as they are intended to be used with an average user's fat fingers, and they often are adapted to input methods which simply won't work with a mouse.while not ideal long-term, what exactly is wrong with a fully functional iPad app “floating“ on my Mac? Seems like a great first step... and a way to quickly enable lots of apps.
And it is true. You’ll have an iPad app running on the Mac. If that’s not what you want it’s more effort.Apple says makes porting iPad apps to the Mac as easy as checking a box in Xcode.
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