Some iPhone XR Models Start Selling Out

[I7guy]

It’s never worked out before when apple tried with 5C. There’s that. You should always be err on the cautious side when history suggests otherwise.

One would think apple knew better. The idea of a new midtier or entry phone didn’t work for them. But they did change the rules by introducing a super premium tier. Can it work now if the savings is a bit more? I’m not convinced. People who want cheap will either not upgrade or buy the cheapest which is iPhone 7. People who want to spend more will get the XS.

The colors are irrelevant. Most use cases and don’t care. 5C already proved the color game won’t work.

Hopefully the XR is a failure. History says it will be.

While we don't know what the success of the XR will be, history says Apple learns from it's mistakes. The XR is a relevant phone, catering to this who don't want oled or the more high-end camera system on the XS, but still have high-end specs. I'm one of those who want the XS Max but Samsung OLED gave me headaches and for that reason I'm cautious about jumping into OLED. I'm thinking there are others with thinking similar to me.

Hopefully the XR will be a smashing success. We will see.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It’s never worked out before when apple tried with 5C. There’s that. You should always be err on the cautious side when history suggests otherwise.

One would think apple knew better. The idea of a new midtier or entry phone didn’t work for them. But they did change the rules by introducing a super premium tier. Can it work now if the savings is a bit more? I’m not convinced. People who want cheap will either not upgrade or buy the cheapest which is iPhone 7. People who want to spend more will get the XS.

The colors are irrelevant. Most use cases and don’t care. 5C already proved the color game won’t work.

Hopefully the XR is a failure. History says it will be.

The 5C is significantly different to the Xr:

It was using a year older CPU

A year older camera

Was made of obviously inferior materials (plastic)

Lacked the new Touch ID the 5S came with

Didn’t come in the new gold colour

Was only £100 cheaper than the 5S - most consumers would pay £100 for Touch ID and gold.

The 5S was reasonably priced at the time

This time:

The Xr has the same internals as the Xs

It has the same wide angle camera and can still do portrait mode with depth control and lighting effects despite only having a single lens camera

Has the same new design as the Xs

Has Face ID

Is made of premium materials (aluminium and glass)

Is significantly cheaper than the Xs (£250) which is exorbitantly priced.

Has a bigger screen than the Xs

I think Apple got it right this time.

I won’t be getting one myself but I think it will sell very well.

 

[PickUrPoison]

It’s never worked out before when apple tried with 5C. There’s that. You should always be err on the cautious side when history suggests otherwise.

One would think apple knew better. The idea of a new midtier or entry phone didn’t work for them. But they did change the rules by introducing a super premium tier. Can it work now if the savings is a bit more? I’m not convinced. People who want cheap will either not upgrade or buy the cheapest which is iPhone 7. People who want to spend more will get the XS.

The colors are irrelevant. Most use cases and don’t care. 5C already proved the color game won’t work.

Hopefully the XR is a failure. History says it will be.

The XS is the follow-on model to last year’s X, and the XR is the follow-on model to last year’s 8/8 Plus. Having a super premium $1,000 model and another price band at $700-800 that used LCD instead of OLED worked very well last year.

Most analysts expect the XR to far outsell the XS/XS Max, and based only on price, I’m sure they’re right. A $749 phone with a larger display than the $999 model, plus it comes in colors—which will prove very appealing, I think—makes the XR a no-brainer option for many.

I expect the XR to be the best selling model Apple’s ever had. If I were you, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for it to fail.

 

[cardfan]

The XS is the follow-on model to last year’s X, and the XR is the follow-on model to last year’s 8/8 Plus. Having a super premium $1,000 model and another price band at $700-800 that used LCD instead of OLED worked very well last year.

Most analysts expect the XR to far outsell the XS/XS Max, and based only on price, I’m sure they’re right. A $749 phone with a larger display than the $999 model, plus it comes in colors—which will prove very appealing, I think—makes the XR a no-brainer option for many.

I expect the XR to be the best selling model Apple’s ever had. If I were you, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for it to fail.

You're contradicting yourself. It worked well last year? The X was the leader. This year is supposed to be different. Your "most analysts" are over themselves expecting the XR, a midtier device, to far outsell or boast more revenue vs the XS line. Again, this hasn't happened before. It may or it may not this time, but it's not the slam dunk these same guys who are usually wrong think it is. In fact, history and apple's core users say otherwise.

You do realize those iphone 6-8 users..at the time...chose to buy the best model Apple had and simply kept them awhile. You and everyone else is jumping to conclusions to suggest they won't do the same again. They weren't waiting for Apple to introduce a gimped iphone to buy... They simply haven't needed to upgrade.

 

[PickUrPoison]

You're contradicting yourself. It worked well last year? The X was the leader. This year is supposed to be different. Your "most analysts" are over themselves expecting the XR, a midtier device, to far outsell or boast more revenue vs the XS line. Again, this hasn't happened before. It may or it may not this time, but it's not the slam dunk these same guys who are usually wrong think it is. In fact, history and apple's core users say otherwise.

You do realize those iphone 6-8 users..at the time...chose to buy the best model Apple had and simply kept them awhile. You and everyone else is jumping to conclusions to suggest they won't do the same again. They weren't waiting for Apple to introduce a gimped iphone to buy... They simply haven't needed to upgrade.

There’s no contradiction at all. Last year, the X was the best selling model, yes. It sold more than the 8, and it sold more than the 8 Plus. But the X didn’t outsell the 8 & 8 Plus combined. The $699/$799 8 series together sold more than the X. Not surprising, since the X offerings were $999-1149.

This year will be no different. The 8/8 Plus follow-on model—the XR, priced starting at that same $749 price point—will outsell the models priced $999-1449. You call it mid-tier, but it’s got the top tier features people care about most. Those that want “the best” will buy the XS/XS Max.

It’s really simple behavioral economics. An awesome phone, and it’s $250 cheaper and has a bigger screen than the $999 XS? And it comes in colors? Sold!

And if your point is that the XR won’t do well because everyone will buy the XS or XS Max instead, well, you’d see Apple’s ASP jump from $800 to $1,000. But the OLED models are rather expensive, so that’s not going to happen. But it would a really nice “problem” for Apple to have to work out.