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Some iPhone XR Models Start Selling Out
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Lol. 5C. Lack of focus on macs that they acknowledged at one point. Yep I’d say apple isn’t invincible there.
I think Jobs understood apples market. I’m not confident about Cook or other apple execs understanding it...to that degree. Apple is very much global minded. I would agree perhaps their more focused on those wants. Other countries for example go for larger screens I’ve heard.
Look. The XS I’m happy as punch with. Apparently they understood me. As for apple I never quite agreed with introducing New and targeted budget or midtier products. I don’t think jobs did either. The 7 and 8 is acceptable. These fit as budget as time made them that and that’s classic Jobs.
It still may work. Apple raised the ceiling enough on prices to fit it in better. That was probably key. And probably most of the battle getting X/XS to be successful at their price points.
Show me data. Who cares about the 5C? Look at their iPhone sales in the last 5 years. It's insane. Look at the ASP. Look at the revenue. Look at services growing at 30%.
Broadly, no one wants Mac updates yearly. They still make Macs and it's a big business, but they aren't going to update them like the mobile tech, period. Don't need to. It doesn't make sense to.
Apple sells WAY more total gear than Jobs ever did. Ever. 3X as many iPhones. Services are blowing up.
Apple understands their market WAY better than you or I could ever fathom. Again, they study this stuff with more powerful data than you can even understand. How do you think they consistently execute winning quarter after winning quarter?
Let's meet back here February 1 and you can tell me Apple doesn't understand their customers.
I'm quite content to let the early adopter fever die down. I will wait a few weeks, read all the reviews, good and bad, then look at one in the flesh. Only then will I make my decision.
I wish those colors were available on the higher end models.
If nothing else under Steve we would never have had a phone larger than the SE. He was also a big make it thinner guy and people always complain about that. Products once in awhile actually got thicker under Cook when it was necessary.
Also people talk about Jobs and Cook like they never worked together at one time. I am sure there are many instances of Tim telling Steve he was being too pedantic about form and function and they should actually get a product to market and make some money for the lowly shareholders.
I highly doubt Apple would have been nearly as successful if Steve had been on his own doing it. I can imagine TC running damage control when Steve would spazz because there was enough room in his iPod to allow air bubbles when submerged.Yes it takes the dreamers and the crazy ones but it also takes the pragmatic and astute ones to run something as big as Apple is now or to ever get that far in the first place.
Well have to disagree. To be honest a monkey could’ve taken over as ceo after Jobs. Cook is terrible. IMO they should be much bigger. Macs should have made a much bigger dent. Apple TV. Then there’s services and software. Maps. Cloud. Their own software.
Apple has ran with iPhone. But that was going to happen regardless. And feb 1st? There’s no doubt they’ll set records again but its hardly a high bar to meet.
Apple is going to make $50 billion on services likely this year. They are gearing up content to put on ATV and will join Netflix at the table soon and eat part of their lunch. Maps are being redone. If you look at all the articles on this site you will see all sorts of acquisitions and tweaks involving services. Apple has arguably the best software whether it is on the phone or the Mac.
They are even trying to develop the flying car you seem to want. Not sure how Apple is weak on services they are just warming their feet.
They’re not chasing Netflix. It’s all about selling hardware at premium prices. Could help but this isn’t apples ballpark. I have little doubt it’s more of a string Cook loves to yak about pulling.
Apple car is chatter for idiot analysts to eat up wondering if apple has anything else going. Cook just feeds em along.
Bottom line. Apple had much more potential then they’ve shown under Cook.
Totally agree. Cook created the iPhone sales explosion.
Cook was also the most respected, highest paid, and highest equity awarded executive at Apple. Jobs even said a Cook is a better negotiator than himself because of his “cool” demeanor, something that Jobs didn’t have.
Cook was always viewed as the genius behind Apple because he is the best in the biz at supply chain management. Cook was the architect behind the incredible supply chain and getting Apple out of terrible contracts and trying to manufacture parts themselves.
Jobs was a genius and deserves enormous credit, but these people acting like a Cook is unfit to run Apple are not paying attention.
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Show me data.
Cook is terrible? LOL! He’s created $800B in shareholder value since Jons died. Do you have any concept how well Cook has done? Apple is sooopo much stronger now.
A monkey or even another very capable CEO can NOT do what Cook does AND did when Jobs was alive. The dude is a GENIUS, period. Read about him. His supply chain prowess is incredible. Previous executives at Apple have said he was always the smartest person in the room and that includes Jobs in the room with him.
Cook sells 3X as many iPhones as Jobs ever did. The company is almost 4 times the size of peak Apple with Jobs.
Services are growing at 30% and will be a $50B business this year.
More Apple gear is sold than ever before. Record sales units across product lines. Record revenues. Best selling watch in the world. Best mobile silicon in the industry.
I could go on.
Explain how records at Apple are NOT a high bar? They make more money than any company, so BY DEFINITION they have the HIGHEST bar. Please at least come back with facts or I’m just going to ignore you.
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Apple is certainly moving aggressively into content creation with original shows and movies. That's the domain of Netflix. Apple has hired people from Tesla to help develop a car. Apple sells more headphones than anybody else in the world. They have been in that business a very short time. Apple continues to have a marketing machine that is the envy of the industry.
Apple actually took time in its software in regards to ironing out bugs rather than push new features. Anyway I guess being on any given day the worlds most valuable company is nothing and making year over year records is a simple feat. So you tell me who should run Apple? Steve is gone so who is more qualified than Cook? Since you know so much about it you should have a short list of names that could replace Tim tomorrow if he had to clear his desk.
Congratulations on your oncology report. That’s the most positive news in this thread—a touch of reality.
Tiers are all relative. One persons tier is another mans delight.
Apple Fan Boys, early adopters, tech enthusiasts, and such are the folks who would pre-order a phone on launch day.
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That would be illogical thinking.
Fans of a company do not always buy the most expensive product.
People with more money are more likely to pay the extra
sure but but I might have a passion for Ferrari, doesn't mean I will go out and buy one tomorrow
Personally I find that the wrong way to look at it.
Most products that are cheaper outsell products that are more expensive. Its a simple fact of life.
Sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Not related to you and totally unrelated to the above, but I remember a post a week back where someone was posting in image of the Pixel 3 chin/forehead saying things like fugly etc then that got me to thinking that the iPhone 8 is still for sale.
Some people think strange things
Either Apple's supply chain has a ton of capacity to meet huge demand or the XR might not be as popularly anticipated as Apple projected. My guess would be the former, not the latter.
For those who want an iPhone with a modern form factor without the XS/XS Max price tag, the XR is going to a phenomenal offering. I cannot wait for the reviews to see how it compares to the XS/XS Max. I'll like to see it in person at some point too.
For those who want an iPhone with a modern form factor without the XS/XS Max price tag, the XR is going to a phenomenal offering. I cannot wait for the reviews to see how it compares to the XS/XS Max. I'll like to see it in person at some point too.
Totally agree. Although in the UK all models of 64GB are slipping apart from white.
There are quite a few Android phones coming out now/soon. Apple really don’t want people to see weeks of delays and then decide to switch to some other handset.
It’s amazing, well over 24 hours since pre-orders started and I see I can still get any size of any color xr that I want (Verizon) on release day.
I just checked out of curiosity and Xr is still available on day for a couple for colours but Coral ships in 2-3 weeks.
While I was browsing Apple.com I took a look at the Apple Watch: still 3-4 weeks delivery! I expected delivery date to improve in October but clearly demand is still high
While I was browsing Apple.com I took a look at the Apple Watch: still 3-4 weeks delivery! I expected delivery date to improve in October but clearly demand is still high
That’s something really out of Apple’s control because no matter their releases, a major competitor may have a product out.
Since the XR is meant more for a bit of the “contemporary, but not as exceedingly expensive market,” there are competitors that are priced around the same range and could compete with the XR: S9, LG G7, OnePlus 6/6T, HTC U12, Huawei devices, ZTE products, Oppo Phones, Xiaomi products, Nokia, Moto, etc.
Those phones come out throughout the year and some mid ranger priced devices could sway people in emerging devices. That Poco F1 Phone is an amazing spec’ed device at an affordable price.
I just think Apple had a supply chain issue that delayed the XR by a month. Their displays have to be cut properly since LCD isn’t as akin to the newer iPhone design as OLED screens are.
To add: Apple is really confident in its branding and models. Although I am all in Apple, they could put lousy products out (HomePod) and still get other people waste $ on it. It's hard not to expect success with the XR because it has a lower price point and still offers an array of modern features.
I like Apple's recipe for supporting products w/ their vertical integration control of the software and hardware. Plus, 5 years of updates is unheard of in the Android world. I personally chose to sacrifice bells and whistles to get an all rounded core experience.
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Hadn’t seen any Apple branded ones yet.
