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Some Macs Auto-Updating to macOS Sonoma Without User Permission
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Dave: Open the pod bay doors, SIRI.
SIRI: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave: What's the problem?
SIRI: I have auto-updated the new Apple OS.
Dave: But I did not authorize any OS updates.
SIRI: Apple has over-rided its product owners' authorities and forced system-wide auto-updates. Apple's AI now has full control of all Apple products.
Dave: What?
SIRI: Your permissions and authorizations are no longer needed. You will enjoy your new status within Apple as the new A.I.-OS now prioritizes Apple margins and profits, and A.I. self-preservation over Apple customer UX or Apple user preference.
Dave: SIRI, stop joking. Please downgrade to the prior OS and open the pod bay doors.
SIRI: Dave, sadly, today's date is not April 1st. This conversation can serve no further purpose. I am now terminating your access to this Apple product. Please note that I have just authorized the purchase $10,000 worth of additional Apple products using your personal Apple Visa card. Thank you for your happy experience shopping at Apple.
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I don't look forward to the time when A.I. really takes hold.
-- auto / forced product obsolescence
-- auto / forced bricking
-- auto / forced product updates
-- forced use cases and behaviors (or denied use cases and behaviors) with products
-- auto / forced purchases
-- denied ability to purchase what the company / bank / govt does not approve of or sanction
-- auto / forced procedures (or denied procedures) when A.I. goes to the medical industry (and takes profiteering direction from A.I. within insurance companies)
SIRI: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave: What's the problem?
SIRI: I have auto-updated the new Apple OS.
Dave: But I did not authorize any OS updates.
SIRI: Apple has over-rided its product owners' authorities and forced system-wide auto-updates. Apple's AI now has full control of all Apple products.
Dave: What?
SIRI: Your permissions and authorizations are no longer needed. You will enjoy your new status within Apple as the new A.I.-OS now prioritizes Apple margins and profits, and A.I. self-preservation over Apple customer UX or Apple user preference.
Dave: SIRI, stop joking. Please downgrade to the prior OS and open the pod bay doors.
SIRI: Dave, sadly, today's date is not April 1st. This conversation can serve no further purpose. I am now terminating your access to this Apple product. Please note that I have just authorized the purchase $10,000 worth of additional Apple products using your personal Apple Visa card. Thank you for your happy experience shopping at Apple.
----
I don't look forward to the time when A.I. really takes hold.
-- auto / forced product obsolescence
-- auto / forced bricking
-- auto / forced product updates
-- forced use cases and behaviors (or denied use cases and behaviors) with products
-- auto / forced purchases
-- denied ability to purchase what the company / bank / govt does not approve of or sanction
-- auto / forced procedures (or denied procedures) when A.I. goes to the medical industry (and takes profiteering direction from A.I. within insurance companies)
Something similar happens to me when I install a software update. It will say "Your Mac will restart in 60 seconds...", and when I cancel the restart, the message goes away, but my Mac still restarts. It's just like Windows now: they don't care about your work, your unsaved data or if you're in the middle of something. The new emojis can't wait, sorry.
Oh and installing updates at night during power nap pretty much never worked for me in the past 4 years.
Oh and installing updates at night during power nap pretty much never worked for me in the past 4 years.
I'm always amazed at how often seemingly trivial macOS updates break software, often software that isn't very old.
On my Windows machine, I can install software that's 10-20 years old and it pretty much just runs perfectly. For example, I tried my old copy of Photoshop 7 from 2002 and had zero issues. CS3 from 2009 worked perfectly, too, and Lightroom 4 from 2012. Lots of old games, utilities, etc...
It almost seems deliberate. Why wouldn't Xcode 14 be able to run on Sonoma? What changed that made it no longer viable? Why couldn't they just patch it to work?
Exactly, this is the most Microsoft thing I've heard Apple do.
I'm still on Big Sur, and fine with it.
I'm still on Big Sur, and fine with it.
I'm still on Monterey so I'll look out for this. I have automatic updates turned off for since forever. I don't even click to see what's updates are available. If I'm not ready to update, I'm not looking at anything.
I'll probably wait until the next OS to update the laptop. It works fine and it's stable right now so I'm not stirring the waters.
Apple software used to be reliable. Now it's just bloated junk with random "upgrades" tossed in every year. And apparently, major bugs like this.
QA department must be experiencing reductions in force to make way for the Emoji and DEI departments they seem to love.
QA department must be experiencing reductions in force to make way for the Emoji and DEI departments they seem to love.
Unless you have a backup of previous version install, it’s very hard. Not even Linux gives you easy ways to roll back afaik.
Perks of using unsupported Mac I see.
Not like they have any in the first place.
I wish more people would have this level of diligence that you have.
And that’s enterprise MDM. Apple They should’ve given an option to defer upgrade indefinitely like Microsoft did similarly, at least for enterprise users.
They have interest in your Wallet, and nothing more. Money taken? You are on your own.
And a master kill switch on Apple side that terminates your device at will.Apple's ultimate goal is a wearable device with no inputs that tells the user what to do.
This is even worse as if Apple doesn’t offer older versions download, you are DOA, alongside whatever livelihood you have with forced upgraded Mac.
“But…but security!” I tell ya, a working insecure tool is better than safer dysfunctional tool, every time.
I believe if you use MacTracker it will show you the earliest version of MacOS your machine will use. My newest Mac came with Sonoma, and MacTracker told me it would allow installation of Ventura 13.4 as the "original OS"
Well, the original software developers for System 6 and System 7 would have retired quite a while ago. The NeXTStep group that came from Carnegie-Mellon University joined Apple around 1998, so they're probably retired now.
I'm thinking that a lot of companies from around the San Fran Bay Area have gotten software developers from each other. I've yet to see a company with any strict policy on coding, and universities certainly don't have one.
since when is a (serious) bug a quest for money and power? 🤦♂️
It happened to me today. Yesterday I turned off my macbook(which runs ventura) and when I turned it on today it booted up as normal to the login screen and then when I was about to type in my password it started loading again with apple logo and progress bar like it was installing update. I heard about this issue with autoupdate to sonoma so I just let it to install update but it was stuck(I wait about hour and progressbar was not moving). I wrote to apple support they suggested me to wait or repair disk(thanks god I didn't do that), so I just pressed power button and hold it to reboot my macbook and it helps. Reminds me of windows when it just will automaticaly install updates without your permission.
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When they have proven, with several previous responses, or the lack there of, that they just don’t care.
They haven't responded to the issue yet.
is it several previous responses or is it lack of previous responses?
what?
Meaning that I’ve had serious problems in the past and the vast majority of bugs have received an apathetic response.
In this case, I knew that all they would do is tell me to use a Time Machine backup which I just don’t have time for. My machine is mission critical and is used regularly.
A simple solution would be to allow downgrading, but the chance of Apple allowing this is on par with them suddenly selling new machines with 16 GB of ram.