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What confused me was the inclusion of a Thunderbolt port + firewire...Hmm. If anything, Id think giving them dual thunderbolt ports would be best...cause heaven forbid you want to use an external monitor AND some external storage(High IO) at the same time. Weird huh.

Wow did you not even read the info on thunderbolt? It daisy chains.. just like firewire.. thats why you only need one port.... now if you want more than 7 devices... then your screwed. Plus if you cut the firewire port out you would piss off a bunch of people that already have firewire devices... special since they have been pushing them for years...
 
Wow did you not even read the info on thunderbolt? It daisy chains.. just like firewire.. thats why you only need one port.... now if you want more than 7 devices... then your screwed. Plus if you cut the firewire port out you would piss off a bunch of people that already have firewire devices... special since they have been pushing them for years...

whoa whoa whoa...take it easy dad. I know it can link with multiple devices...but was under the impression that it would limit the bandwidth of the SSD array/PCI block/etc. If thats incorrect(and Im 109% wrong..which occasionally happens;), then cool:cool:
 
Yes happens with a 17" as well for sure

Have had mine for a couple days and it is definitely flickering on my 24". I did notice that by going into my energy saver settings and un-checking the "Automatic graphics switching" it seems to be better. Might be worth a shot for some of those who are having the issue.

http://grab.by/9qeM
 
I had a similar issue with a bad MiniDP to DVI adapter but it happened more frequently. Had to switch out the cable eventually.
 
i don't understand this whole Thunderbolt crap! why did they add that port when there's no products out there use it? when is it going to be mainstream? in 20 years?

cool.

If only Apple had a product that had a huge capacity, that was a data consumption device, that could benefit from a high speed I/O, and came out at about the same time. Hmmm... what comes to mind, what comes to mind?

The fact that TB is not in the so-called iPad 2 is a total and abject failure on the part of Apple. Here they had a chance to give us a device that could use the TB ports they just put on the MBP, and they did not.
 
whoa whoa whoa...take it easy dad. I know it can link with multiple devices...but was under the impression that it would limit the bandwidth of the SSD array/PCI block/etc. If thats incorrect(and Im 109% wrong..which occasionally happens;), then cool:cool:

Oh I thought you meant needed more ports for more devices... yeah the bandwidth bottleneck may happen... but not likely on a laptop cause there are just not that many devices on it (PCIE bus) at one time. I know there is always an exception.... but they don't design it for the exception they design for the masses.
 
Looks a lot like the flickering I get from my 2008 Mac Pro (not macbook pro) into the 24 in. cinema display. As far as I know, there is no solution.
 
Interesting...

I have two 24" ACD's, one at my home office, one at my work office. I'm holding off one more revision of the MBP anyways, hopefully this will get fixed!
 
Well, time for the next MBP upgrades...without flickering option :D I am sure there are enough idiots who will say "Without Flickering? Wow cool I buy 2" Thank you apple.
 
I had this problem with my first generation iMac 27" i5. Apple swapped my iMac twice before I got one that didn't cause my 24" cinema to flicker. I never had problems with the iMac's internal display flickering like many others did, just my connected 24" Cinema Display.
 
I've had the blackout issues on my 24" ACD for ages now (Mac Pro, ATI 4870). Sometimes it will go days without blacking out, other times it will black out several times over a few hours. No way to replicate it.

I've spent hours reading support threads (like this one) to find no answers. At the time my unit was under warranty, I was at least 4 hours from the nearest Apple store.

I just live with it, because 99.999999999% of the time, it's a gorgeous display.

Maybe they'll issue a firmware fix and all will be resolved... I'm not holding my breath though.


Really? 99.999999999 % ? That means you see the issue 315 microseconds (0.000315 seconds) per year. You can really see an issue thats visible for that length of time, assuming you are looking at the screen 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a full year ?

I call BS sir.
 
Really? 99.999999999 % ? That means you see the issue 315 microseconds (0.000315 seconds) per year. You can really see an issue thats visible for that length of time, assuming you are looking at the screen 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a full year ?

I call BS sir.

Someone deserves warlock of the day award!
 
If you look at the Apple discussions forums, there seem to be a lot of issues with external displays and the new Macbook Pro's.

My 13" i5 Macbook Pro can't seem to connect to any VGA display using a genuine Apple Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter. Tried with three different screens and three different VGA cables. Hopefully these problems can be resolved with a firmware update.

Unfortunately it's not just a driver bug or something. I've tried with Ubuntu 11.04 beta (which supports Sandy Bridge graphics) and experienced exactly the same problems. So it's either hardware failure or a firmware bug.
 
I am so glad I bought an HP ZR24w 24" sRGB IPS display for my MacBook instead of spending much more on Apple's inferior display. The CCFL backlights on my display cooperate better with calibration tools, and the display is matte. When I'm using it, I don't have to look past my own reflection. The ZR24w is so much easier on the eyes than mirror-like display.
 
I'd like to stress that this problem that is being reported now, is with 24 inch ACD's that previously had NO problems with other MBP's… Until they got hooked to the new 2011 MBP's.

That's important to note because some of the reported flickering that can happen with these displays are due to loosely connected internal wires. I had issues with mine after about 6 months, took it to a certified Apple tech, he popped the glass and reconnected everything, problem disappeared. This does sound like a software optimization glitch though. I suspect an update will solve this minor issue in the coming weeks.

If only Apple had a product that had a huge capacity, that was a data consumption device, that could benefit from a high speed I/O, and came out at about the same time. Hmmm... what comes to mind, what comes to mind?

The fact that TB is not in the so-called iPad 2 is a total and abject failure on the part of Apple. Here they had a chance to give us a device that could use the TB ports they just put on the MBP, and they did not.

Nice job hijacking this thread about monitors to restate the fact that you are disappointed with ipad2. I had almost forgotten having only read this statement of yours about 5 other times. BTW your sig, while strange and scattered, also contains a typo.

It's called Manufactured in China.

Everything manufactured has defects, regardless of where it is manufactured. Especially electronics where the error is not visually obvious. It's not like Quadong Lee forgot a screw or something.
 
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What is with all of their graphics issues lately? My sister and I just updated our fourth-generation iPod touches to iOS 4.3 and now we are both having flickering issues with the top bar and the lock screen especially. It is extremely annoying when you look up at the time and its not there. All it is is static, and its very annoying.
 
Looks a lot like the flickering I get from my 2008 Mac Pro (not macbook pro) into the 24 in. cinema display. As far as I know, there is no solution.

Same things happens with my 2009 MP and 24" ACD. It's happened when connected to my previous 4870 video card and my current 5870 card.

It's only happened a handful of times in the 2 years I've owned it, so I never really gave it much thought and chalked it up to flukes, however now it appears that there is a genuine problem with the 24" ACD itself, and not the source driving it.
 
If only Apple had a product that had a huge capacity, that was a data consumption device, that could benefit from a high speed I/O, and came out at about the same time. Hmmm... what comes to mind, what comes to mind?

The fact that TB is not in the so-called iPad 2 is a total and abject failure on the part of Apple. Here they had a chance to give us a device that could use the TB ports they just put on the MBP, and they did not.
You are the most ragey and malcontent person I have ever seen! you need to check yourself, before you wreck yourself. :D
 
That's important to note because some of the reported flickering that can happen with these displays are due to loosely connected internal wires. I had issues with mine after about 6 months, took it to a certified Apple tech, he popped the glass and reconnected everything, problem disappeared. This does sound like a software optimization glitch though. I suspect an update will solve this minor issue in the coming weeks.



Nice job hijacking this thread about monitors to restate the fact that you are disappointed with ipad2. I had almost forgotten having only read this statement of yours about 5 other times. BTW your sig, while strange and scattered, also contains a typo.



Everything manufactured has defects, regardless of where it is manufactured. Especially electronics where the error is not visually obvious. It's not like Quadong Lee forgot a screw or something.

Yes you're right, everything manufactured has a chance of defects. But it doesn't change the fact that certain countries have higher rate of defects than others in terms of manufacturing.

Take cars for example. Some of the best manufactured cars are manufactured in Canada, Japan, USA, Germany where as a lot of the cars manufactured in Mexico have much higher quality problems. Does that mean that cars manufactured in Canada, Japan, USA or Germany don't have problems? No of course of not. But the chances of the cars coming out of these countries having defects are much lower.

Same goes for electronics.
 
Yes you're right, everything manufactured has a chance of defects. But it doesn't change the fact that certain countries have higher rate of defects than others in terms of manufacturing.

Take cars for example. Some of the best manufactured cars are manufactured in Canada, Japan, USA, Germany where as a lot of the cars manufactured in Mexico have much higher quality problems. Does that mean that cars manufactured in Canada, Japan, USA or Germany don't have problems? No of course of not. But the chances of the cars coming out of these countries having defects are much lower.

Same goes for electronics.

That's cool. I'm just wondering if it really wasn't "always this way" with Apple products or we just now have sites to complain on about a 0.0001% defect and it seems larger. Blaiming China is easy, finding good data to prove it is not.
 
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