Some of Leopard's 300+ New Features

[contoursvt]

Well I dont really think so. My father knows nothing about computers but he's had his AMD XP 2500 computer for over 3 years now with XP on there and I have not had to rebuild it or do anything. Granted I did the setup of the computer so I made sure it was patched properly and I installed AVG antivirus for him and all, but I dont do any kind of maintenance or anything. He's pretty much used it the way I gave it to him. The most he's installed is Google Earth, Picasa, Google Tool bar (he likes searching with that), real player (yuck) and thats about it.

The root of all problems on the PC side IMO are users installing P2P applications. By installing them, who knows what back door and security flaws they are introducing. Windows is very VERY in my experience if users dont install software that comprimise the security.

Thats just it, it takes an experienced user to keep Windows solid...

 

[Quillz]

Thats just it, it takes an experienced user to keep Windows solid...

It also takes an experienced user to keep OS X and Linux solid. What's your point?

Why because I outsmarted you? PC fanboy!!!

Bottom line...Vista sucks! Plain and simple! If Vista is Microsoft's next gen OS to build off from, they're in big trouble! The Winblows NT kernel doesn't cut it! Maybe sometime in the next 50 yrs they'll figure out how to make WinFS work and they'll have something great to talk about.

Since you're such an expert, I'm assuming you have plenty of valid evidence why the NT kernel doesn't cut it? And since when have opinions become facts? And I really find it funny that anyone who disagrees with you, an Apple fanboy, is a "PC fanboy."

And of course being an Apple fanboy it's typical that you've done no research on WinFS whatsoever. If you did, you'd have known that WinFS was never intended to replace NTFS, and rather is a series of technologies that run on top of it. Some technologies from WinFS are already in Vista.

Ditto...just ask my brother-in-law who is a traditional PC user...he bought a new PC and said clearly...Vista SUCKS big time, in terms of compatibility, slow performance and bloatware...OS X can't be even compared to it...it's light-years ahead...only the PC fanboys still poisoning this forum could think otherwise.

PC fanboys, GO HOME. Vista SUCKS! WINDOWS SUCKS!

You seem to forget that perhaps the biggest reason OS X "just works" is because of Apple's stance against third parties. Unlike Windows, Apple does a wonderful job of locking down their hardware and software. Strange, this very same argument is used all the time against Microsoft, who makes no computer hardware, other than a few keyboard and mice. Now how's the evil one?

 

[Mikebike125]

You can already scroll a background (inactive) window in Tiger (10.4):

1) Hold down the Apple/Cmd key
2) Drag the scroll bar in an inactive window in the background

You can also drag windows around in the background using the same method. The one thing you can't do is use the scroll wheel though.

I couldn't get that to work. Are you talking about say two open FireFox windows? That was the program I tried it on and it didn't work.....

 

[slackpacker]

Yah I ordered Leopard today after depositing this....

Thanks Microsoft for almost buying me Leopard.

I'm still not planning on installing it for at least a month after getting it. Yes I'm paranoid but I still think this OS was rushed at the end. We'll see though. If there are no major issues...maybe my external FW800 Drive before I dive into installing it on my MBP. While overall I'm disappointed on the evolutionary progress of OS X and leopard, there are some key features, both on the surface and under the hood, that makes Leopard a solid purchase.....esp at about $20

How do I get my Check?

 

[apachie2k]

I couldn't get that to work. Are you talking about say two open FireFox windows? That was the program I tried it on and it didn't work.....

it works for me but it's the second window, if i hold command then press the second window it will bring that window forward, however if you are still holding command and click on another window it will work...

 

[juxtaposer]

You seem to forget that perhaps the biggest reason OS X "just works" is because of Apple's stance against third parties. Unlike Windows, Apple does a wonderful job of locking down their hardware and software. Strange, this very same argument is used all the time against Microsoft, who makes no computer hardware, other than a few keyboard and mice. Now how's the evil one?

I have always believed that a lot of Apple's success is due to their insistence on building their own hardware and OS. It is this key mixture that makes Mac OS 'just work'. I don't want to install numerous drivers and run installation disc's when I buy a product. And now that I own a Mac, I am spared these minutes (which slowly mount up to hours and weeks) so that I can enjoy doing what it is that I want to do.
After installing Vista on a PC for an old friend of mine, I have spent the last few days getting used to the new Microsoft OS, and while it is an improvement, it is still the same old Windows. Applications still freeze unexpectedly, and I am very worried that my friend (who needs the machine for basic audio editing) could lose a LOT of valuable data if he does not back up every ten minutes or so. All in all, Vista is not a horrible OS. I just believe that if Microsoft were to begin building their own line of PC's, then maybe, just maybe, Windows could be a great and far more stable OS.
I am looking forward to using Leopard, with Quick Look and Spaces being my favourite new additions. But most of all, I know it will be almost entirely the same OS that I am familiar with. And that, bundled with the added improvements make Leopard a definite purchase for me.
Juxtaposer

 

[contoursvt]

So far I've built 20+ vista machines and all have been rock solid. I am willing to bet that if you run a memory test on your friends computer, you will end up with errors. 99.9% of instability is due to faulty memory IMO. You can download and burn the ISO then reboot with the disc in and let the test run for at least 2-3 passes. I leave all my machines overnight to ensure no bad mem...
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

I've had OSX kernel pannic and do the spinning beachball for no reason and it would be easy to base my opinion of OSX on that and say it was unstable but I took the time to test the memory in the machine and indeed one faulty stick.

...After installing Vista on a PC for an old friend of mine, I have spent the last few days getting used to the new Microsoft OS, and while it is an improvement, it is still the same old Windows. Applications still freeze unexpectedly, and I am very worried that my friend (who needs the machine for basic audio editing) could lose a LOT of valuable data if he does not back up every ten minutes or so. All in all, Vista is not a horrible OS. I just believe that if Microsoft were to begin building their own line of PC's, then maybe, just maybe, Windows could be a great and far more stable OS....Juxtaposer

 

[juxtaposer]

So far I've built 20+ vista machines and all have been rock solid. I am willing to bet that if you run a memory test on your friends computer, you will end up with errors. 99.9% of instability is due to faulty memory IMO. You can download and burn the ISO then reboot with the disc in and let the test run for at least 2-3 passes. I leave all my machines overnight to ensure no bad mem...
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

I've had OSX kernel pannic and do the spinning beachball for no reason and it would be easy to base my opinion of OSX on that and say it was unstable but I took the time to test the memory in the machine and indeed one faulty stick.

Will definitely check that out, thanks for the link. The fact is that my friend is so used to Windows that he just has to have Vista on his main machine. My personal preference is OS X because of the creative (audio editing) software that is available for it. Most of them are a lot easier to use for someone as simple as me. I couldn't be happier with my Mac, and with the new additions, it just makes it even easier to get to grips with. As we know, Windows and OS X both have their downsides, but from what I've seen so far Mas OS's upsides far outweigh that of Windows for what I want to use it for. Time Machine can't come fast enough, because it turns out that as I was cleaning up some space, I deleted a Logic session that I was working on. Bah!
Juxtaposer

 

[aussie_geek]

I am really impressed by the Back to my Mac and the iChat screen sharing.

I have lost count the number of times I have forgotten stuff on my home mac that should have been taken to work .

I have some mates that ring me on the weekend about their Mac dilemmas so the iChat screen sharing is going to be really helpful. I can finally control their Mac and talk to them at the same time about what I am doing for them instead of being on the end of a phone or video conference.

Stacks are impressive as well. Being able to see your downloads folder without opening it will be great and having the latest item you have downloaded to be at the top of the stack is useful.

Mail with its built in notes and to-do's will finally make my ever growing pile of post it notes disappear.

Can't wait - have pre-ordered it for Friday. Apparently the courier comes at about 9 - 10 am here in Australia.


aussie_geek

 

[bazzz]

Good...I don't think I ever want to see another Java app on Mac. If we can get the Java developers to stay away from Mac, it's an OS X feature that gets my blessing.

People like you have absolutely no idea that

a.) Java is these days by far the most used language in commercial environments (Obj-C is an OS X niche, not more, I'm currently part of a > 70 developers project in telco which is 100% Java),
b.) Java is mainly used these days for non-desktop applications and
c.) tens of thousands of developers worldwide will leave the mac (Apple has been a trend lately with developers) if Apple kills Java on OSX.

This really sucks. That was the only feature I was really waiting for in Leopard.

 

[scottishwildcat]

I like the Dictionary application as it is. Wikipedia will only poison it.

Quite agree. And given that Dictionary is, well, a dictionary app, why wikipedia.org rather than wiktionary.org?!