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You do realize that Vista is based on Server 2003 which was a rewrite of Windows NT kernel from the ground up. Which is why at least 80% of the vulnerabilities in NT, 2K, XP don't apply to 2003 right? Right? Bueller? Bueller?



You just lost any credibility. Done.

Why because I outsmarted you? PC fanboy!!!

Bottom line...Vista sucks! Plain and simple! If Vista is Microsoft's next gen OS to build off from, they're in big trouble! The Winblows NT kernel doesn't cut it! Maybe sometime in the next 50 yrs they'll figure out how to make WinFS work and they'll have something great to talk about.
 
Worse than a salesman! University professor. I applaud the freedom that the internet gives many in society. I hate the mediocrity that Wikipedia enables. Sometimes it’s wrong, sometimes it's right to one degree or another. Sometimes it's dead on correct. The problem is that it's often a crapshoot. For my purposes, it provides a launching pad for me to teach critical thinking skills to students.

Critical thinking? In a university? I can't think of a single college class I've been in (and I have over 300 credit hours) that has encouraged critical thinking or even tolerated it. I would love to take your class. What do you teach?

My favorite experience in this area was a district-mandated essay in the ninth grade where we were supposed to use our critical thinking skills and evaluate some dingbat thing or another. I asked my teacher why we had to write on this specific, uninteresting topic, and she said "because Gallup-McKinley County Schools says so."

I'll take mild risks of inaccuracy over thought-terminating clichés anyday :)
 
Ship Date?

Hey. for us to get Leopard on the 26th...What date would it have to ship out by? I dont see apple using next day air or even 2 day...standard ground CA to FL i think is 5 days... but where does a new OS ship from???
 
Why because I outsmarted you? PC fanboy!!!

Bottom line...Vista sucks! Plain and simple! If Vista is Microsoft's next gen OS to build off from, they're in big trouble! The Winblows NT kernel doesn't cut it! Maybe sometime in the next 50 yrs they'll figure out how to make WinFS work and they'll have something great to talk about.

Oh my goodness. You really don't have a clue, do you? At first I thought you were joking, but now I think you actually meant it... :eek:
 
Hey. for us to get Leopard on the 26th...What date would it have to ship out by? I dont see apple using next day air or even 2 day...standard ground CA to FL i think is 5 days... but where does a new OS ship from???

I ordered from Apple same day it was available for pre-order. My shipping has been upgraded from standard ground, to standard overnight. If you pre-order you will most likely see it on your doorstep Oct 26th. For different reasons, there's always a few people who have to wait until Monday.
 
Oh my goodness. You really don't have a clue, do you? At first I thought you were joking, but now I think you actually meant it... :eek:

Yeah, I don't have a clue! I just work on the dark side everyday with other people who also have no clue. :rolleyes:

P.S. What makes you think that you have a clue? I'm done with both you and Silicon...we'll let you both sit on your own stupidity!
 
Yeah, I don't have a clue! I just work on the dark side everyday with other people who also have no clue. :rolleyes:

P.S. What makes you think that you have a clue? I'm done with both you and Silicon...we'll let you both sit on your own stupidity!
Let me help you understand.

I like using OS X. But I also like using Vista and XP.

"How can this be so? M$ Windoze suxes!!111", you might say.

Well, my friend, I use both every day professionally and at home, and try to harness the strengths of each. And yes, they both have strengths and weaknesses. It's all about keeping a balanced perspective... going all 'one eyed' for a particular platform helps noone.
 
Why because I outsmarted you? PC fanboy!!!

Bottom line...Vista sucks! Plain and simple! If Vista is Microsoft's next gen OS to build off from, they're in big trouble! The Winblows NT kernel doesn't cut it! Maybe sometime in the next 50 yrs they'll figure out how to make WinFS work and they'll have something great to talk about.

Kinda hard to be a fanboi when I'm typing on a Mac. :rolleyes: You see I have this ability to like both platforms. I know its a stretch for anyone so smitten with a platform that they can't even spell their competition's name correctly, but try and grasp this concept. I like both OS X and Windows for various reasons. I hate both OS X and Windows, again, for various reasons. Like it or not Windows is a solid platform when configured correctly. That is the key. It has to be configured correctly. It needs software to complete it. It takes work. Apple out of the box is more secure. More complete. And simply is ready for the non-tech savvy user. But guess what. There are people who are tech savvy. And there are people who have had very few problems with Windows. My 2003 home server has literally been up for over a year now. ZERO down time. You can remain the consummate fanboi. Guess what that accomplishes? It makes money for Apple. A company. That is all. You aren't an Apple fanboi. You are a corporate fanboi. Apple neither cares about you or your blind love for their products. They simply care about your money. Period. Tell em would you have such blind loyalty towards Nike? Nintendo? Coke? All are nothing more then corporations, EXACTLY like Apple at the end of the day.
Might I ask how old are you? Seriously. Your behavior, language, and lack of any credible response makes me think high school at best..... I mean what next? are you going to pull out the...because I said so argument? :rolleyes: Whatever. Its like arguing with lint. I probably would have an easier time.


Hey. for us to get Leopard on the 26th...What date would it have to ship out by? I dont see apple using next day air or even 2 day...standard ground CA to FL i think is 5 days... but where does a new OS ship from???


Most likely Apple will have orders placed on hold in areas around the US. Central shipping nodes. Fedex\DHL\UPS allow for this on large orders. So what will likely happen is that orders will go out the day before possibly a state or two away from your location and you will receive it the 26th. That being said there are going to be disappointed people. I can guarantee you right now that there will be people in areas where it can't be delivered on the 26th.
 
It wouldn't, not yet anyhows: what good is it if none of our computers have any built-in drives for the discs themselves?

Becuase I rip all my HD-DVDs to my RAID arrary using an XBox 360 HD-DVD drive and I want a way to watch them (and the rest of my media) via FrontRow!
 
Why because I outsmarted you? PC fanboy!!!

Bottom line...Vista sucks! Plain and simple! If Vista is Microsoft's next gen OS to build off from, they're in big trouble! The Winblows NT kernel doesn't cut it! Maybe sometime in the next 50 yrs they'll figure out how to make WinFS work and they'll have something great to talk about.

Ditto...just ask my brother-in-law who is a traditional PC user...he bought a new PC and said clearly...Vista SUCKS big time, in terms of compatibility, slow performance and bloatware...OS X can't be even compared to it...it's light-years ahead...only the PC fanboys still poisoning this forum could think otherwise.

PC fanboys, GO HOME. Vista SUCKS! WINDOWS SUCKS! :rolleyes:
 
Wowzy!! I can see myself using most of these less known features! I think these will in the long run be more useful than the 'major' new features (barring Time Machine)

PS: I hope the Wiki+dictionary can be called on highlighted words with "Command+CTRL+D", like dictionary is now.
 
If there is any justice in the world, then Apple should really significantly eat into MS's home marketshare over the next year or two.
It takes more than justice. HP lead OEM sales with how many tens of thousands of outlets worldwide? With Dell right behind? You want to eat into Microsoft's home market share you have to compete on the same grounds. Microsoft sell an operating system - it's a crappy one but it's not hardware. It's an operating system. That can go on any OEM Wintel box.

Apple can't match that. Recent surveys show Apple with an 8.1% share in the US but still at 3% worldwide - and this after Steve Jobs has now been CEO, interim or otherwise, for over ten years. Market growth? If he promised the board any market growth he's in trouble. With his sales model he's had zip market growth.

He's selling iPods and iThis and iThat and together they account for more than half the revenues so the board are relatively happy. But when he makes fun of Zune because it's only got a 2% market share and on the computer side he's only got 3%...

You want justice? Pack a dictionary and take the red eye to Cupertino and recite for the boss.
 
I just saw this on the Amazon.com page, sounds pretty cool:

Dashcode. Widgets without the wait.
Ever wish you could make your very own Dashboard widget? A handy RSS feed of your favorite blog, maybe. Or a miniature photocast of your iPhoto library. Something uniquely useful, uniquely you. Say hello to Dashcode. Now you can get a widget up and running in minutes, even if you've never written a line of code in your life.
 
I just saw this on the Amazon.com page, sounds pretty cool:

Dashcode. Widgets without the wait.
Ever wish you could make your very own Dashboard widget? A handy RSS feed of your favorite blog, maybe. Or a miniature photocast of your iPhoto library. Something uniquely useful, uniquely you. Say hello to Dashcode. Now you can get a widget up and running in minutes, even if you've never written a line of code in your life.

Sign up for a free developer membership and you can get it here free :)
 
I just want to say that properly set up, both OS's will be rock solid. NT based machines as well as OSX. There is absoutely nothing wrong with the NT kernel when it comes to stability.

Our 2003 exchange mail server which as someone else said, is the base for Vista, has been up and running for over 640 days. No crashes, no reboots...etc. Its serving mail and hosting some collaboration functions for a company of 120 users. Check the idle time in number of hours...

The box its running on is a Compaq DL380 dual xeon box with 3GB RAM.

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