Maybe not, but back then opening an old doc in the new app didn't automatically save an incompatible version over the top of your original did it.
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Some Power Users Are Unhappy With Lost Features in the New iWork
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I'm sure this has been mentioned here before, but just in case it hasn't... I noticed that the old versions of the apps are still there in a folder called "iWork '09", so even if you update you still have the option of using that version. (Just don't open a document in the new version and expect to then open it in the older one.)
My only point was to say that, at the very least, they have NOT automatically deleted the old version - so you can continue using it as much as you want.
Your question is much more about WHAT Apple wants to do with that app in the future...productivity software has never been Apple's strongest asset - so in my view, they'd rather ensure compatibility cross-OS (in order to sell more devices) than give everything power users want.
I'm going to take a wild guess that this isn't exactly accurate.
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Again, this was also the case with iWork '06, which I also still have on my Mac.
And I've just checked that the export to plain text option is still there - at least according to Wolfram's glossary, plain text is the same as .txt. Or is it not?
The major achievement with this release is that Apple was able to attain feature parity across all the different iWork apps. Web, desktop, and iOS versions now all have the exact same features. That is a big deal because now you don't have to worry about files being altered depending on where they were created or opened. All features are available in every platform. Even the web.
And that's why they were able to add collaboration too. You can now create a Pages or Keynote document, share it to someone who uses a Windows PC or an iPad and not worry about them messing up your document. Or open up the document you were working on at home while on the road to edit a cell in Numbers on your iPhone without worry.
Microsoft currently has some web and mobile apps for Office but in my experience they are completely useless because using them destroys formatting, messes up your document, and does not offer the same functionality as the native desktop apps. You're constantly wondering if you can use any particular feature if you want mobile access. I don't think Microsoft will ever be able to get feature parity with Office because they can't afford to basically start over and rewrite Office from the ground up like Apple just did. Hell, they can't even get feature parity right across Mac and Windows!
And all Google has is just some web apps so they could add collaboration easily but then you're stuck with just using a web app. No native apps at all.
So it seems Apple has the best long term strategy here for a cross platform and mobile productivity suite. There will be some short term pain though while they build the features back in. But now they can add back features across all platforms simultaneously which will be crucial for true cross platform use.
And that's why they were able to add collaboration too. You can now create a Pages or Keynote document, share it to someone who uses a Windows PC or an iPad and not worry about them messing up your document. Or open up the document you were working on at home while on the road to edit a cell in Numbers on your iPhone without worry.
Microsoft currently has some web and mobile apps for Office but in my experience they are completely useless because using them destroys formatting, messes up your document, and does not offer the same functionality as the native desktop apps. You're constantly wondering if you can use any particular feature if you want mobile access. I don't think Microsoft will ever be able to get feature parity with Office because they can't afford to basically start over and rewrite Office from the ground up like Apple just did. Hell, they can't even get feature parity right across Mac and Windows!
And all Google has is just some web apps so they could add collaboration easily but then you're stuck with just using a web app. No native apps at all.
So it seems Apple has the best long term strategy here for a cross platform and mobile productivity suite. There will be some short term pain though while they build the features back in. But now they can add back features across all platforms simultaneously which will be crucial for true cross platform use.
If these are the most notable missing features, then this isn't exactly a monumental dumbing down.
"Of course, the new release is a free update to a consumer-focused software product where many of the missing features were likely never used by the majority of Apple's customers, so the concerns of power users may fall on deaf ears. Igot does note that the company -- perhaps intentionally -- set aside iWork '09 applications in a folder on computers that upgraded to the new versions, so users who prefer the older Pages app can continue to use it, albeit without the iCloud and cross-platform features in the new release."
Ahhh ... so that's it ... instead of making the iOS version MORE robust they dumbed down the OX version so they'll be compatible.
Apple are NO leaders when it comes to software.
Ahhh ... so that's it ... instead of making the iOS version MORE robust they dumbed down the OX version so they'll be compatible.
Apple are NO leaders when it comes to software.
Hopefully all of this is handled with a few updates over the next couple of months. So far I found nothing missing that I use with Pages. But then again, I don't use it "a lot"...
Try it.
The first thing I did was open one of my documents. Saw the formatting problems and quit from Pages. I didn't save it, I just quit.
The file is now unreadable in Pages '09 because the new version uses Apple's autosave feature and that kicks in immediately when the file is opened, and the format saved is incompatible with the older version of Pages.
Y'all miss ClarisWorks yet?
Y'know, I do. That was great stuff.
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You can export to '09.
I was amazed on how powerful Word actually was when I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZp7BvQJnU8
Anyone else see it? It's all iOS7's icons recreated in Word.
It's like freaking Photoshop!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZp7BvQJnU8
Anyone else see it? It's all iOS7's icons recreated in Word.
It's like freaking Photoshop!
It is, but it is not RTF (rich text). RTF support is a nice thing to have, but I don't use it much, and only in TextEdit.
Not an apologist, but happy for now
They definitely removed some features, but in our group, the collaboration features have trumped everything. My co-worker created a document in a browser on her desktop, which I was able to edit on my iPad from the train, print from my mac in the application and reference on my iPhone. For basic office interaction that is the best feature I could ask for.
And I'm actually kind of glad they've abandoned the page layout features, to me, that was one of the reasons I didn't use the app for heavy word processing. I've always used it for the projects that required a little more creativity and design and kept my 50 page documents in word.
They definitely removed some features, but in our group, the collaboration features have trumped everything. My co-worker created a document in a browser on her desktop, which I was able to edit on my iPad from the train, print from my mac in the application and reference on my iPhone. For basic office interaction that is the best feature I could ask for.
And I'm actually kind of glad they've abandoned the page layout features, to me, that was one of the reasons I didn't use the app for heavy word processing. I've always used it for the projects that required a little more creativity and design and kept my 50 page documents in word.
Apple need a 'Pro Work' suite. As Aperture is to iPhoto, Logic Pro X is to Garage Band and Final Cut Pro X is to iMovie ... they need a set of pro apps for each free apps in iWork.
While this is true, this phrase is often used a cop out for the uninspired and unimaginative.
I suppose this is Mavericks autosave at work. Perhaps it can be turned off? I just upgraded to Mavericks from Snow Leopard and am still trying to get used to the autosave feature. I strongly suspect that if I open an iWork '06 Pages document in '09 Pages that the same thing would happen. You can export back to the old format, though.
Someone actually uses RTF in Pages?!??
I always thought that was there as a joke. Because it never worked properly for me from the start. Everything else was excellent. Hope they didn't eliminate the SAVE or NEW features.
I always thought that was there as a joke. Because it never worked properly for me from the start. Everything else was excellent. Hope they didn't eliminate the SAVE or NEW features.
Oh really! How useful, AFTER pages has stripped all the features from your original Pages '09 document...
Yes, this happened exactly to me with an insulin chart I keep for my dog. Opened it in the new Pages, saw the pop-up that the file would be changed, closed the chart. Deleted '13. Then couldn't open the chart in '09.
Yeah, some would say "So what?", well it matters to ME. I keep this chart in DropBox so my parents can access it on their older iMac which is NOT upgradeable to Mavericks & iWork '13. Yes, I could go through extra steps to open it in the older version but it opens automatically in '13 with a double-click and one would have to be constantly vigilant.
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