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I hate Tim Cook. I wonder why you assumed I love him. You sound like every other member on this forum that is extremely biased against Tim's Apple and immediately think those that disagree with you love Tim Cook. No. At least I'm objective with my reasonings.

Also you said "welcome to the new apple" which implies this "new apple" is related to time. Don't try to walk back on your statements.

Feel free to reply, but I won't be reading anymore of your statements. You refuse to admit wrong, so I won't waste anymore of my time talking with you.
farewell williams
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look I don't speak English 100% that's why some things can be misinterpreter, there are some things that means something in one language but they have a different meaning or more than one meaning when you translate to another language

let's try to be reasonable here for a second, first you say feel free to reply then you said that you won't be reading my comments, well if you don't want to read my comments then why you reply to me, I guess you just want to have the last word, look honestly I don't have any problem admitting when I'm wrong, i'm not trying to changed what I said either, I tried to explained to you what I meant, but you just want to forced me to accept your interpretation, I can't say that I'm wrong when I'm not wrong, this is like the police that want me to pledge guilty of a crime a didn't commit.

you can see it either way, new apple since Tim Cook took over, regardless of time meaning it doesn't matter if it was 8 years ago, also when someone has a change of personality or the way the person behaves, then the person says this is the new me, yes we know is still the same person but that is a way of saying that something changed, so when I said or wrote the new apple, it also means the way apple is behaving now, lately, "the new apple" I really don't know why you make such of big deal out of it, sorry my English is not perfect and I can't explain every little detail

the comment can be made for more than one reason
but you only are seeing one interpretation, you see what you want to see
and reject what I'm telling you

if you play checkers or chess a person can see only one move but another person can see many more moves

there are many more possibilities
anyway moving on, if you don't get it with that, I really don't know what else to say

you don't have to read my comment but I wrote it just in case
also others can read it too, the comment is not just for you

if I hurt your feelings with the Tim Cook comment or if I made you feel uncomfortable in any way
I apologized for that, see I can do that, no problem, I'm man enough

peace
 
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I was expecting exactly this when I saw the presentation. It’s just too much work for a smaller newspaper or Magazin to convert their entire issue weekly or even monthly to this stylish new format I guess. RIP Apple news+. Sad story actually that they don’t help them more.
 
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You'd expect a first class service for a not-so-small monthly fee. There must be some serious management issues behind the scenes if they still haven't learned from their numerous ****ups in the past. At least they make good promo videos.
 
We don’t have Apple news + in Australia yet - but if it’s anything like the standard Apple news app I can’t see me subscribing. The ui is pretty bad compared to services like Flipboard which is much easier to use and infinitely better looking. I struggle to find things in Apple news and the presentation is overwhelming.
 
One problem with Texture, Apple News, Pocket Magazine or similar apps is you can’t annotate it freely with the Apple Pencil on the margin or on a separate worksheet. I prefer to subscribe to a magazine with a traditional drm-free pdf format. That way I can annotate it, mark it or manipulate it with any 3rd party pdf apps I want such as PDF-Expert, Liquid Text or Margin Note.
 
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Agreed … I don't see how Apple will make a paid news/publication service survive with so much free content across the Internet. Heck, many people get their news in 140 character bytes from Twitter anyway :rolleyes:

A "service" like that is about ten years late. The Internet more or less killed print media, and most users are not willing to spend money to get past a paywall. This whole concept just shows how little the execs understand their own customer base -- or the impact of technology in general. The mature age of most decision makers at Apple doesn't help either to develop technological concepts and visions for the future. The only game that they're playing is entrenchment and securing the existing cash flow. Which, of course, will ultimately fail because technology always moves on, and since Steve Jobs passed away, Apple has only been playing the "me too" card. There never was "a fully filled product pipeline", there never were truly innovative new products, and everybody's still waiting for "the next big thing".

The next predictable failure: AppleTV+. A service that nobody needs and that will come without a convincing concept or attractive content. To add insult to injury, that service will compete with Disney+ and similar offerings.
 
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Meanwhile me- from a region, that never had, and probably will never have, News app.
 
What can you expect, this guy introduced this service:

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haha, they will take town you post for obvious reasons - haha
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My reason for saying this is that Apple’s services seem basically geared for the mass market, and that is who they will appeal to.

It’s the same story with the Apple Watch and AirPods all over again. The so-called “tech experts” criticise these products on issues that simply don’t matter to their intended audience. What’s even more astounding is that the success of these products has caused the critics to instead double down on their own prejudices, rather than re-examine them.

So while you all quibble over these minute matters, you are all missing the whole point of Apple News - which is to address a very real consumer problem of finding accurate news in a world where Facebook and Twitter perpetuate conspiracy theories and junk news on a massive scale. And Apple is doing this with human curation paired with clever algorithms at a time when the rest of the tech industry is saying “just algorithm all the things!”

So the myriad of criticisms this forum loves to level at Apple, they may well be valid for the small vocal minority here, but that’s just that. There is value in this, and I believe it is value that the target market will be perfectly willing to pay for.

whats wrong with apple watch and airpods?
watch was just a failure when starting but WE the "tech experts" made it happening - even tim apple recognized it at a keynote.
airpods were cool from start - no one knows how this happend

so wheres your hate coming from against us "tech-experts"?
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Tim Cook may have gotten Apple to 1 trillion, but Steve job would have gotten it to 2 trillion without alienating us Apple fans.

people - we the new generation never cared about the trillions - so why the ... are we talking about that - and even call it an achievment for tim apple

its nice for his ego - but what exactly did this one trillion contribute to the world???
 
They've done the biggest digital music store in the world.
They run the most lucrative and impactful App Store in the world.
iCloud is now a huge success story.
Apple Music is the biggest music subscription service in the US, and also expanding rapidly around the world.
Apple Pay has been a game changer.
And services revenue continues to soar upwards to the delight of investors.

Yeah Apple can't do services. :eek:

Music and App stores aren't services, they're just online retail.
iCloud is decent but inferior to several of the many competitors.
Apple Music is poor imitation of Spotify.
Never used Apple Pay.
Investor happiness is irrelevant to quality or sustainability of a product.
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its nice for his ego - but what exactly did this one trillion contribute to the world???

The amount of money being hoarded by the rich is significantly damaging the economy and public services to the extent that for the first time in history the next generation will be poorer in real terms than the previous.
 
Apple can't do anything right anymore. And whenever they actually manage to, it's pretty mediocre.

RIP the Apple I grew up with. I became a "switcher" when I was 19 in the year 2006 and got my first white plastic Intel iMac. I'm very sad to say those glorious days are firmly gone.
 
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And SJ blew rainbow bubbles from his flute? Apple is as predatory as any large company.
Always has been. You might educate yourself on Apple’s beginnings and how Apple has been cutthroat throughout its history, just like Google and Microsoft. .
It's easier to resurrect Steve Jobs as a straw man argument against Tim Cook than to provide real analysis.
 
whats wrong with apple watch and airpods?
watch was just a failure when starting but WE the "tech experts" made it happening - even tim apple recognized it at a keynote.
airpods were cool from start - no one knows how this happend

so wheres your hate coming from against us "tech-experts"?

I just find it funny when this forum loses their collective cool every time Apple announces new watch bands, not realising (or at least, not willing to acknowledge) that easily interchangeable bands are a key reason why the Apple Watch is even as popular as it is.

Their view of the world is basically based on what they see around them most - cost leadership, divisional organizational structure, growth through M&A's, engineering-led. For them, Apple is a puzzle as it is different in every single way and brings them discomfort.

Here’s what I believe will happen. Apple will continue to do the exact same things they have been doing that will rankle the critics here. Oh, the flames, the bashing, the criticism, the outrage, they will all come. The cries that Apple has lost its innovative edge will grow louder and louder.

And you know what? It’s not going to change the fact that Apple will go on to become insanely successful. Because like I said, we are effectively watching two movies on the same screen now. The very things the critics hate Apple for doing are the exact same things people like myself love Apple for doing.

And guess which group outnumbers the other?
 
I’ll just chime in -

I’m happy to pay $10 per month for access to fantastic magazines. Texture was an absolutely beautiful app. Apparently, it’s being phased out? Texture made magazine navigation easy, along with past issues made easily available.

I develop mobile apps on iOS and I can’t figure out how to navigate News+. It is a damn mess. I don’t know why they don’t just amp up Texture, which already has pre-eminent templates and functions?
 
Go to a salon and see those 50 magazines sprawled out on the table to pacify those waiting to get their hair done. Go into an IT business, sit down, sip on free lattes, bagels and scan through a dozen or more subscriptions curtailed to those waiting.

Well, most people now sit on their phones and don't pick them up anymore.
These houses that used to put those magazines available should just understand to replace them with ipads. Taking away paper versions and not replace them with digital versions is making their service worse.
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Magazine publishers need to use tools to scan PDFs and convert them into individual articles and advertisements, but the technology is said to be so buggy that each issue needs to be "effectively copy- and design-edited all over again."
This is just semantics, but "to scan PDFs" ?!?
Is this the new norm what scanning means?
It used to be converting analog information to digital.
 
doubt it, they need apple's broad market penetration rather than sticking it on their own.

i can't comment on the + but the regular news has been alright, i still prefer google news to some degree but if i have to live with just apple news its not such a bad thing.
My guess is that the "regular" News application will either be removed or downgraded to a level to make News+ more appealing.
 
there you have it, the new apple under tim cook, but we are trolls and haters, i remember apple used to be real good at costumer support but just like everything else in apple, even that has declined, but of course that doesn’t have to do nothing with apple leadership, right. so not only the service sucks but also the support, welcome to the new apple, we only care about taking your money, after that you are in your own

things will have to go bad and from bad to worse untill we finally get rid of tim so then things can go back to be good once again

oh yes also cool because mr cook is not cool at all

the men simply kills the asmosphere with his precense

Your short-term memory loss is gold medal stuff. Under Uncle Steve we had MobileMe. Ebook scandal to raise prices. And oh yeah, he dropped Computer from Apple Computer. Apple, under Steve Jobs, stopped caring about making useful tools a looooong time ago. It’s been Fisher-Price since then.
 
Unless you are the WSJ you get thrown in the "email pit of despair." Seems like a steal for 50% of the revenue. No wonder why newspapers are walking away laughing.
 
My guess is that the "regular" News application will either be removed or downgraded to a level to make News+ more appealing.
i think that might happen too once apple's earning report comes in and they have jack to show for. if that does happen then i'll just google news section, theres too many free publication out there.
 
 news used to be a pretty good aggregate for me to read daily, now a lot of the previous articles are only available via the pay wall. There are limits to my autopay monthly to apples coffers (music, iCloud etc.) this is where I drew the line. Pass, I use other sources instead.
 
The idea is great. The execution extremely disappointing. Why does a company with such enormous resources roll out such a sloppy product? Inconsistent format, confusing navigation, wild variation in presentation quality, crazy use of add space vs content, bare bone features and obvious lack of standards. They didn't put their heart into this one.

They don’t have anyone with the cajones to call it crap, like Steve or Scott would do. Tim is so painfully woke that he cannot have anyone working for him who might upset the apple cart. Every rollout is craptacular. Apple Music is still total wank compared to Spotify. Apple Maps is till total wank compared to GMaps or Waze.

Famous will say X and Y have had a head start, but Apple is starting from a trillion dollar position ffs. It’s not good enough and frankly they are taking the piss keep putting prices up to justify the ecosystem when the ecosystem is a train wreck.
 
We live in a generation where there is too much information, may it be free or not. There is so much to read, absorb, watch, listen these days no wonder I see people stressed out. People usually stick to a medium of consumption of choice, may it be a vLog, blog, social media or whatever. Apple is just providing options for people who prefer a specific medium for consumption. If you prefer one form over the other, why are people hating. I just don’t get it.
 
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