Some Users Experiencing 'Three Finger Drag' Issues on New MacBook Pro

[sirozha]

Holy crap!!! Thank you!!! I thought they did away with it and struggled with different apps trying it back. I would have never EVER thought to look in accessibility for that function. Wow that was stupid!! Why put it there? I just don't get some of Apple's decisions

I can tell you have been using Macs for less than 4 years.
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How come 3 finger drag doesn't work on mine at all? It's enabled too. How do you do it just swipe left and right with 3 fingers?

You don't need this feature if you have never used it, which you haven't. It's not the best way to drag anyway. People are moaning because that was the only way they knew how to drag.
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I'm not sure, here I am typing that message from my new space gray MBP 15" (late 2016), there is no indication of rotten Apple's core, no bad smelling, no noise, there are nice suggestions of the words I'm typing on touch bar ( cool )
I never tried 3 finger drag, so I tried it for few minutes. It works as expected from left top to down, from middle top to down, from right top to down. I didn't like it, so I disabled it. About price, it has comparable configuration with my previous MBP (2013) and costs exactly $7 more, Apple care costs $19 more, so all together $26 more for 3 years, I think it's not bad. I bought also Thunderbolt 2 adapter + card reader + usb-c - usb-a adapter all together another $50, not bad too
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I don't understand why are people moaning about price, price didn't change (at least for me)
3 years ago I bought MBP 15" (retina) 2.6GHz/16GB/1TB SSD $3089 + $307 Apple care (after corporate discount, before tax)
now I bought MBP 15" with touch bar 2.9GHz/16GB/1TB SSD $3101 + $314 Apple care (after corporate discount, before tax)
so increase is $19 for 3 years, it's practically nothing

Think about what you are saying. You are getting a laptop for over $3,000 AFTER corporate discount. Some people's cars cost less.

The price increase is on lower-end MacBook Pros.

 

[aleni]

As others above have already pointed out, the biggest moaners seems to be those that have not tried or own this product.

All these reports are small samples on a community forum not a global scandal. Wait until thousands are reporting issues before lynching Apple. Even then 100,000 would still be a small sample for an Apple device.
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Actually I quite like the idea. I haven't tried it yet but with my last gen MacBook Pro sometimes I would get to the edge of the trackpad and be left needing to go a bit further. This will probably have same issue but I still see practicality in it. Though I will bear in mind your suggestion it interferes with resting palms tho when I do try one.

the last gen mbp is too small. i think the retina macbook's trackpad is the perfect size. big enough but doesn't make our palm sitting on there.
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As others above have already pointed out, the biggest moaners seems to be those that have not tried or own this product.

All these reports are small samples on a community forum not a global scandal. Wait until thousands are reporting issues before lynching Apple. Even then 100,000 would still be a small sample for an Apple device.
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Actually I quite like the idea. I haven't tried it yet but with my last gen MacBook Pro sometimes I would get to the edge of the trackpad and be left needing to go a bit further. This will probably have same issue but I still see practicality in it. Though I will bear in mind your suggestion it interferes with resting palms tho when I do try one.

the last gen mbp is too small. i think the retina macbook's trackpad is the perfect size. big enough but doesn't make our palm sitting on there.

 

[jermwhl]

I don't use three finger drag, but I have noticed the trackpad isn't as responsive as my 2011 mbp. I find I'm having issues with click and drag, for example. It's also taking some getting used to working with the force touch. I like it but I wish I could adjust the "click" like I can with the iPhone home button.

 

[thedommer2000]

I don't use three finger drag, but I have noticed the trackpad isn't as responsive as my 2011 mbp. I find I'm having issues with click and drag, for example. It's also taking some getting used to working with the force touch. I like it but I wish I could adjust the "click" like I can with the iPhone home button.

I think you can adjust click under preferences.
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I think you can adjust click under preferences.

I use tap to click. I find it faster.

 

[DrumApple]

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Completely underpowered... uhuh. Btw, this keyboard is pretty good, have you even tried to type extensively on it?

Anyways.. pretty enlightened about your negativity, much less about what is wrong with the new MacBook Pro's.
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I own one, and this feature has worked fine so far.

Yeah me and the rest of the world are just negative people... that's it. The keyboard is personal preference, and most people hate it. Go try and ThinkPad keyboard and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Hmm, I'm sorry.
1. define "pros". I'm considering myself as "pros" in software development with about 30 years experience.
and almost every car you're driving, almost every plane you're flying, almost every computer pros or not you're using was made with the software I'm helping to develop. So don't tell me about "pros"
2. that machine you're so not happy with compiles and build project with about 2000 cpp files for about 1.3h which is reasonable, windows machine does it for 5h (64GB, 8 cores), debian 8 does it for 50min (the same configuration) so I'm pretty happy with that computer. It run my software pretty fast, so 16GB 2130MHz RAM is pretty fast, so again don't tell me about pros. (and my iMac with 32GB 27" top of the line (current) is slower that that MBP
3. dongles. I need one (thounderbolt) that's about it. I don't need SD card adapter, I have WiFI and my Canon 70D has it as well, my Samsung 500GB external SSD drive has USB-C interface no need for dongles, so don't tell me about dongles
4. Touch bar. It's clear to me, you never tried it. But it's free country, you don't like it, don't buy it. To me it's very promising and amazing feature and we're planning to add support for touch bar in our software. And I can tell you. Almost every university in the world has and uses our software, literally every engineer in the world knows about our software and almost every one uses it
5. touch pad, it's the same size as Magic Trackpad 2, so no problem with it, but again you don't like it, don't buy it
but for me it is just fine
6. MagSafe. here you're right, but after using it for almost 3 days I can see that it's not as bad
7. Price, it's practically the same price as my 3years old MBP 15" with Retina display, so again, don't tell me about price
8. about "enlighten me", it was sarcasm.

and, please, DrumApple, don't be so full of yourself it will help you

We work in different industries and jobs where the definition of Pro means something different. Great that it works for you, very nice you can get by with it. It doesn't for me, and quite a few others obviously. I actually have used the Touch Bar as I already mentioned. I am full of myself for giving my opinion? You speak as if everyone operates like yourself, "don't tell me about dongles", wake up man, you're not in the majority here.

 

[DaIfoneboss]

I don't use three finger drag, but I have noticed the trackpad isn't as responsive as my 2011 mbp. I find I'm having issues with click and drag, for example. It's also taking some getting used to working with the force touch. I like it but I wish I could adjust the "click" like I can with the iPhone home button.

Defitnetly the strong palm rejection software going on since our palms sit on the trackpad now much more

 

[dmarkman]

I can tell you have been using Macs for less than 4 years.
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You don't need this feature if you have never used it, which you haven't. It's not the best way to drag anyway. People are moaning because that was the only way they knew how to drag.
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Think about what you are saying. You are getting a laptop for over $3,000 AFTER corporate discount. Some people's cars cost less.


The price increase is on lower-end MacBook Pros.

corporate discount is the same (~8%), therefore all I said is true for the regular price
so I do think about what I saying, about low end MBP, it does have more value, only Touch ID justify that price increase (IMHO)

 

[dmarkman]

Yeah me and the rest of the world are just negative people... that's it. The keyboard is personal preference, and most people hate it. Go try and ThinkPad keyboard and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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We work in different industries and jobs where the definition of Pro means something different. Great that it works for you, very nice you can get by with it. It doesn't for me, and quite a few others obviously. I actually have used the Touch Bar as I already mentioned. I am full of myself for giving my opinion? You speak as if everyone operates like yourself, "don't tell me about dongles", wake up man, you're not in the majority here.

I really don't care I'm in majority or not. I just guess, that my opinion as an owner of that machine will be valuable for other potential users.
I talking for myself of course. It's a good machine, worth the price whatever other people on that forum say. I like the keyboard, it's much improved in comparison to MacBook.
Pro: there is no good laptop for serious video processing. Besides it's really doesn't matter how Apple named it. It's just a marketing. If you compare that machine with Microsoft Surface book, you'll see that Surface Book is more expansive (not by much, but still)
Majority of comments here are coming from people that never worked with that machine never touched that machine, so their opinions are worthless to me.

 

[rebe1]

Yeah me and the rest of the world are just negative people... that's it. The keyboard is personal preference, and most people hate it. Go try and ThinkPad keyboard and you'll know what I'm talking about.

I use a ThinkPad every day for work, and have been using ThinkPads since 2000. I still say that you have not even tried this keyboard extensively yet..

As for speed, I am sure this is faster a laptop than what most "Professionals" have been using.

 

[bopajuice]

QUICK Rabid forum members, we've dug up another minor bug that a handful of users are experiencing....GO MAD, GO GO GO!

Next a topic on that if you press the emoji laugh icon on the touch bar twice on a Tuesday it only registers once on a small batch of 13" MacBook Pro's running 10.12.1 (16B2657) after 8pm.

You are in denial. Add another bug to the list.

 

[diipii]

QUICK Rabid forum members, we've dug up another minor bug that a handful of users are experiencing....GO MAD, GO GO GO!

Next a topic on that if you press the emoji laugh icon on the touch bar twice on a Tuesday it only registers once on a small batch of 13" MacBook Pro's running 10.12.1 (16B2657) after 8pm.

If I had been misguided enough to pay 0ver£4K for a new top spec MBP I wouldn't be dim enough to compound that with putting up with any fault on a brand new machine. Apple is now selling more and more on the idea of a product and that is a very frail premise.
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Has there been a single Apple product in recent memory with this many software-hardware integration problems?

Spot on. Apple started with the form over function philosphy , then fertled up Final Cut, then emasculated the Mac Mini, then the Mac Pro, then all kinds of mad schemes with cars etc etc, then building a giant round white elephant. Look on YT to see how much of a joke Apple has become.

 

[6836838]

Clearly they're not swiping it right.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Actually so do I. The reason i'm not going crazy about this for two reasons. One it's only happening to some people and two it'll almost certainly be fixed in macOS before most of us have received our systems.

Genuinely it seems like a hand recognition issue based on the new trackpad size. It's a minor bug because it'll be fixed.

It's just MR stoking the fire and flamewars of the rabid masses over things that'll be fixed or are not an issue and posting nothing positive that irks me. If this was still an issue in January THEN i'd be annoyed.
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Do let us know if this gets fixed--I mean this sincerely. I would like to keep track of Apple's fixes.

 

[dannys1]

Do let us know if this gets fixed--I mean this sincerely. I would like to keep track of Apple's fixes.

I don't know if mine does it yet as it hasn't arrived. Quite a few in the forum saying it doesn't happen to them though so I guess it's only in some situations which is weird.

 

[sracer]

I don't know if mine does it yet as it hasn't arrived. Quite a few in the forum saying it doesn't happen to them though so I guess it's only in some situations which is weird.

Actually so do I. The reason i'm not going crazy about this for two reasons. One it's only happening to some people and two it'll almost certainly be fixed in macOS before most of us have received our systems.

Actually, there's a third more important reason you're not going crazy about it.... You don't currently have a new Macbook Pro.

Genuinely it seems like a hand recognition issue based on the new trackpad size. It's a minor bug because it'll be fixed.

It's just MR stoking the fire and flamewars of the rabid masses over things that'll be fixed or are not an issue and posting nothing positive that irks me. If this was still an issue in January THEN i'd be annoyed.

What is the percentage of problems posted by MR that turn out to be #NothingBurgers? How many of Apple's recall and repair programs started out with users complaining about them to Apple and forums like this one? Apple has a track record of responding to bad press, threats of class-action lawsuits, and sometimes actual lawsuits being filed.

You are free to characterize the complaints as unwarranted whining but history shows that such "whining" is an important role in getting Apple to respond.

 

[DrumApple]

I use a ThinkPad every day for work, and have been using ThinkPads since 2000. I still say that you have not even tried this keyboard extensively yet..

As for speed, I am sure this is faster a laptop than what most "Professionals" have been using.

I've used it plenty and much prefer the ThinkPad's keyboard. Can I use the new Mac butterfly? SURE. Will I enjoy typing on it as much? No. They are just opposite ends of the spectrums when it comes to feel.

 

[Thunderhawks]

This post says nothing in terms of what you mean? Please elaborate.

The original post was a question like :

Will Apple fix this? (Obvious answer)

Sorry, if you did not get my sarcasm. I have a habit of not identifying it as that and whoever gets it gets it.

 

[dannys1]

What is the percentage of problems posted by MR that turn out to be #NothingBurgers?

Bringing up problems and forcing Apple's hand is indeed worth doing, but i'd say that 99% of problems reported on MR are "nothing burgers".

 

[saytheenay]

Do people with 3 finger drag issues have force touch enabled? If so, have you tried it with force touch disabled and does that help?

Maybe it's an issue of too many features and/or conflicting features?

 

[elderginger]

Do people with 3 finger drag issues have force touch enabled? If so, have you tried it with force touch disabled and does that help?

Maybe it's an issue of too many features and/or conflicting features?

Apple shouldn't let this conflicting feature happen on its main product...

 

[cult hero]

Probably doesn't matter much but:

1. I have used this feature basically since it was available.

2. On the 13" model that I have it works fine.

 

[3568378]

This explains why the 2015 hasn't really seen a price drop. They're still in demand...as they should be. Extremely happy with the 2015 15" AMD...and every day it's another piece of news reminding me I made a good decision.

 

[Aragornii]

I'm having the three finger drag issue. The weird thing is that three finger drag works just fine it I grab the title bar of a window and drag it around. It rarely works at all if I grab the lower corner and try to resize the window. Seems completely independent of where my fingers are on the trackpad, and more a function of what I'm trying to do. Not sure if this is a subtlety of how palm rejection works.

 

[Christopher Kim]

My issue is similar with most (13" MBP with Touchbar), the 3 finger drag doesn't work well in the top-left corner area of the touchpad. It's fine when I start the 3 finger drag from the middle of the trackpad. Not a huge issue now that I know it has to do with the area of the trackpad, was a quick adjustment. Hopefully they fix in the next macOS update.

Given the big change in the size of the trackpad, while it's slightly annoying, I'm ok with the likely iterative process in tweaking the palm rejection algorithms to work better with gestures.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

My issue is similar with most (13" MBP with Touchbar), the 3 finger drag doesn't work well in the top-left corner area of the touchpad. It's fine when I start the 3 finger drag from the middle of the trackpad. Not a huge issue now that I know it has to do with the area of the trackpad, was a quick adjustment. Hopefully they fix in the next macOS update.

Given the big change in the size of the trackpad, while it's slightly annoying, I'm ok with the likely iterative process in tweaking the palm rejection algorithms to work better with gestures.

I'm OK with it too, as long as it actually happens. Really hoping for a firmware update or an update included as a part of 10.12.2.