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Someone Used an iPhone?

A simple search of "FCC law GPS" would have shown you that every cellphone on the market since 2005 is required by LAW to have GPS in it. whether or not Apple choses to let people access the GPS is another story.

And for the posting saying 'gps' is just triangulation from the towers this is incorrect. All cellphones in the US since 2005 have GPS, tower triangulation is used if they were trying to find a missing person after several day, since towers can be 10 square miles or more apart. Some parts of Europe use GPS for navigation and if you are in a building without GPS it will try to make an educated guess based on the cell tower you are using.

However everyone needs to stop confusing Apple not using the GPS for anything but e911 and it not having one. The iPhone has a GPS, but most likely it won't be enabled for anything but e911 unless apple down the road updated their software (maps) to take advantage of the GPS. This is how many cellphone companies have done it over the years, launch without GPS support for anything but e911, and then offer a firmware update to access it for things like navigation that Verizon and AT&T offered later on there phones.

Bottom line is the iPhone has a GPS just like US law requires for every phone. Mostly likely it won't be put to use, but down the road I'm guessing apple will offer access to it for google maps, but probably not for a few months or more.


FreeState said:
Um these two do:

http://www.helio.com/?#services_gps

Note how it says it uses satellites.


Also on a side note GPS is crappy a lot of the time. I was just in San Fran and the GPS in my rented car (Never Lost) only worked about 50% of the time - and often showed us driving the wrong direction on the wrong street etc. I've used a couple others and really have not yet been impressed - they have all been more work and distraction from the road than I personally would like.
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He actually said "prominent" not "high-class". (Not that I'm making any generalisations about your restaurant - I'm sure it's great :)

In any case - I believe it. You have here a meeting between a person who is obviously a mac addict who's been dying to get their hands on an iPhone (adrenaline allows you to remember a lot of detail if you're trying), and another person who's been dying to tell everyone about what he's carrying but can't cause he's bound by an NDA. It was bound to happen.

Thanks for the info.
Mike
 
strangelogic said:
Well - except it sounds just like another post at another site (and no I can't remember the link, but it was last week) and that iteration had no name, and no youtube information, and it did name the 'swanky' restaurant in nyc where this supposedly happened..
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That was a discussion thread over on the Macintosh forums of arstechnica... It's still a semi-active topic I think.

Dave
 
recon907 said:
Picture snapped of the iPhone-in-airport guy at Delmonico's -- same restaurant where he got to use the phone.

Update: Restaurant picture a fake. Pretty good one, though. Heh.
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Heh that's great! :D

Hmmm this guy or more to the point the back of this guys head could become famous! I wonder how many other interesting and unique places he could be 'found' in/at. ;)

Dave
 
DaveGee said:
Heh that's great! :D

Hmmm this guy or more to the point the back of this guys head could become famous! I wonder how many other interesting and unique places he could be 'found' in/at. ;)

Dave
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I've seen 'restaurant guy' on the internet as much as 'wtc guy'. :D

Can someone photoshop an iphone on him?
 

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Okay, now I'm 100% sure this post is more hype advertising.

Everyone needs to look at the new iPhone demos on Apple. They actually show how the typing works and I never saw a magnifying glass. Hmmm....

This whole thread reeks of lonelygirl15.
 
killerrobot said:
Okay, now I'm 100% sure this post is more hype advertising.

Everyone needs to look at the new iPhone demos on Apple. They actually show how the typing works and I never saw a magnifying glass. Hmmm....

This whole thread reeks of lonelygirl15.
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Watch the new guided tour:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour.html

The never before seen settings pane that was disclosed in this video was pretty much exactly what he described . . . Very interesting.
 
Laslo Panaflex said:
The never before seen settings pane that was disclosed in this video was pretty much exactly what he described . . . Very interesting.
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I guess it's more credible after watching the video, and rereading the story. Guess I maybe even had a little iPhone envy.:eek:
But every menu is blue/gray and that was known before, and you just can't believe everything you read.

Who knows? The iPhone will be out soon enough. Nice of Apple to give out more info. though.
 
OT, but related: Lost pre-release iPhone

I sent this to both MacRumors and LoopRumors yesterday - but I guess they didn't want to post it. The following quote is from a current NYC craigslist post. I can't see what benefit the poster could gain if this wasn't legitimate, albeit loathsome?

Anyone care to give 2¢ on what a fabricator could possibly gain by this posting?

"Found your pre-release iphone in a taxi - $2500 (Midtown)
Reply to: sale-XXXXXXXXX[at]craigslist.org
Date: 2007-06-20, 6:14PM EDT

OK, you are probably sweating bullets because you lost your pre-release iphone in a taxi. I found the iphone and tried to play with it, but the keyboard is locked. I realize that you are probably a techie or a news reporter that will lose their job if the iphone isn't returned. I thought about auctioning it off and stuff, but that probably isn't ethical. Just give me the name of the taxi driver and an acceptable reward and I will return it. toodles!"

Here's the link: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ele/356570541.html

:apple: momoe
 
killerrobot said:
Okay, now I'm 100% sure this post is more hype advertising.

Everyone needs to look at the new iPhone demos on Apple. They actually show how the typing works and I never saw a magnifying glass. Hmmm....

This whole thread reeks of lonelygirl15.
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You never saw the magnifying glass because the guy never made a mistake that he had to go back and fix. Just wait before grilling me.
 
Vinom said:
You never saw the magnifying glass because the guy never made a mistake that he had to go back and fix. Just wait before grilling me.
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actually he did make a mistake.. and the only thing mentioned about making a mistake while typing is using the space bar to correct to spelling.. no magnifying glass
 
Vinom said:
You never saw the magnifying glass because the guy never made a mistake that he had to go back and fix. Just wait before grilling me.
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I'm believing you more and more. (Read the quote after the one you cited)

BTW-I hope you worked out a sweet deal with Apple for this post. You've hyped everyone up for them. Even me and I'm not going to get one for a long, long time. (Apple doesn't like Europe. :( )

EDIT: A slight hijack. I have that T9 function he's talking about on the video (the one that automatically knows what you're typing and corrects you) on my phone. Drove the s&%! out of me. I either have a bigger vocab than my phone's dictionary or it just didn't really know what I wanted to say. I ended up correcting what it's corrected. Finally figured out how to turn it off, and SMS is a lot better. I hope there's a way to turn that off on the iPhone.
 
elg23 said:
actually he did make a mistake.. and the only thing mentioned about making a mistake while typing is using the space bar to correct to spelling.. no magnifying glass
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The mistake I made was in a web site address which is two words tied together, so predictive text doesn't work. It only works on known words. If you are typing:

www.interestingmasteroftheuniverse.com

but accidentally type

www.interestingmsterofthuniverse.com

you can go back to the missed a and the missed e by using the magnifying glass rather than re-typing the entire web address. The magnifying glass works kind of like scrolling through the dock. The letters zoom and shrink as the glass goes by. There is a thin vertical black cursor marker in the center of the glass which shows you where your edit cursor will be... like I said, wait and see.
 
Vinom said:
The mistake I made was in a web site address which is two words tied together, so predictive text doesn't work. It only works on known words. If you are typing:

www.interestingmasteroftheuniverse.com

but accidentally type

www.interestingmsterofthuniverse.com

you can go back to the missed a and the missed e by using the magnifying glass rather than re-typing the entire web address. The magnifying glass works kind of like scrolling through the dock. The letters zoom and shrink as the glass goes by. There is a thin vertical black cursor marker in the center of the glass which shows you where your edit cursor will be... like I said, wait and see.
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Sounds awesome. Personally, I believe this story as true. Why would he come back to the forums over and over to back up his case? And he called the Settings pane before Apple posted the 20 minute tour. Why are you so doubtful? Only 7 days until the launch...
 
What's with all of the EDGE bashing?

Do you folks know what EDGE speeds are, actually?

Everytime i see someone say "dialup" it makes me want to just take a bat to someone's head.

So, so that we all are on the same page here...EDGE xfers on only 4 slots is like 256kbps...generally between 27 and 31K per second. The max, if they push it (which i've been testing every morning to see how that's progressing; I have a friend at ATT that's been keeping me aprised of this) that they think they can realistically get is about 40K/sec (which is under the 384kbps ceiling).

This is *not* "dialup speed" so I wish people would really cut that crap out.

*That would be* the painfully sucky and slow GPRS. GPRS and EDGE are not the same, tho EDGE is built on GPRS.

Got it? :)
 
Ok..thread seen...

And while 26-30K/sec isn't the 69Kish/sec i'm getting on "3G"...

Its not dialup.

I mean, its like a whole perspective thing here;...look at apple.com home page.

It takes less than 30 seconds to load this page over edge. This is not a simple page.

Same with macrumors.com...so yeah, I mean 15 to 25 secs average...and this is on a slow WM6 phone running slow opera mini.

The way people seem to be trying to intimate, we're talking 3 minutes to load up a page :)
 
It's Believable

I believe him, but it is also possible that Apple is doing some viral marketing by sending out 100 people with the iPhone or releasing them from secrecy since we are so close to the release date. The expectations for the iPhone are very high, but I think the first generation will be successful. So if that comes to pass, then the second generation will be even more successful before it is sold. I'm glad Apple has jumped into the cell phone market. Phones were getting very boring, but ever since Apple announced their Prada phone, it has really changed things. Now if they and AT&T can execute, they will own the market for probably the next five years!

As for testing in Vegas, that makes perfect sense. People with a lot of money go to Vegas and heavily use their cell phones there.

As for restaurant employee at a big time place asking a customer about their phone, that is totally believable. Good employees will show an interest in a customer and ask questions without being pesky. If "Pat" had said he couldn't talk about it, he would have backed off. People like to be the center of attention, especially if they have the hottest phone on the planet. You want people to ask about it.

Hey, I'm from Texas, so I know about bragging. :)

Personally, I'm looking for the third generation iPhone or better yet, I'll take the next generation video iPod if it is the same as the iPhone without the phone part, but everything else.

Thanks Apple for making something that people want. Now if the rest of the industry would get a clue.
 
RnSK said:
This is *not* "dialup speed" so I wish people would really cut that crap out.
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I believe the whole point is that Apple, along with AT&T, could've made it faster. No 40 kB isn't slow compared to dialup. It's freaking lightning. But it's slower than 3g, and it's slower than what you get on your computer for sure.

If you want to view the "real" internet, you need "real" speeds. That's how this speed complaint rolls in my book.

EDIT: On ALL the iPhone demonstrations, all webpages are already loaded. There is no wait time. That's doesn't even happen on my 20 mb/s internet connection. Is there something wrong with their advertising or is it just me?
 
Vinom said:
No, I don't think that was it. It was bright red and the letter of the alphabet was easily identifiable, but I cannot remember what it is.
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isn't that the red circle with a white line ? (used to delete items in lists)
 
rumorskill said:
So you lied to Pat about not being a blogger. How can you be trusted with anything you post?
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:D, isn't there a contradiction there ?

u don't believe his story, because he lied (in his story) ??

i completely believe this story, from the start, and it's absolutely no big deal, except one thing, "Pat" could be in trouble because of this.
 
strangelogic said:
Well - except it sounds just like another post at another site (and no I can't remember the link, but it was last week) and that iteration had no name, and no youtube information, and it did name the 'swanky' restaurant in nyc where this supposedly happened.

The problem with this message is it is almost exactly the same 'setup' as that one, and almost the same paragraphs just slightly modified... Now I wish I remembered where I saw it.
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i saw that article, it was completely different, the guy only saw the phone, did not try it, and he didn't give any details.

this is the first time i hear about the magnifying glass, and i like it !
 
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