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Someone Used an iPhone?

honestly this close to launch, I don't think SOMEONE using teh iFone™ and talking about it is that ridiculous or unlikely.
 
The Viking said:
No. Cell-phone "GPS" is actually just that-- triangulation using cell towers. There's no satellite-based GPS as you know it in pretty much any consumer or business cell phone. This won't have that, according to current knowledge.
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that's simply not true. Mio digiwalker, nokia, treo etc, have real GPS.
 
inkhead said:
A simple search of "FCC law GPS" would have shown you that every cellphone on the market since 2005 is required by LAW to have GPS in it. whether or not Apple choses to let people access the GPS is another story.
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that's also not true, phones have to be locatable, but are not required to have GPS.
 
martijn.s said:
that's simply not true. Mio digiwalker, nokia, treo etc, have real GPS.
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right, and they're add-on units for the must part.

and a general statement:
this ISN'T an argument. IF SOMEONE WANTS/NEEDS GPS ON THEIR PHONE- YOU CANNOT TELL THEM THEY DO NOT. If I need my iPhone to wash my towels, don't tell me it's ridiculous, it's something I believe that iNeed in my iLife and thus it becomes a totally viable iDea.
 
Vinom said:
I honestly debated whether to post my experience here. I knew that I would get hammered if I did, yet I also know that if someone else had this experience, I would want to know the additional details. BTW I did google Pats real name and it came up on Apples web site.
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I hope the owner of the iPhone you used (AT&T tester?) does not get fired or worse due to your desire to become famous on the net!
 
martijn.s said:
that's simply not true. Mio digiwalker, nokia, treo etc, have real GPS.
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This probably isn't a place to engage in this debate, but a quick correction: Mio Digiwalker is not a phone, but a dedicated GPS device. Nokia's N95 *may* have true GPS, I can't find hard info. If the Treo had GPS, I probably wouldn't have sold it.

Unless your phone spends 30 seconds every time you're outdoors saying "acquiring satellites", you don't have true satellite GPS, but are using the cell-tower-based system.

I simply don't understand why this feature couldn't have been implemented on the iPhone. It would save loads of time entering your current location when getting directions.
 
The Viking said:
This probably isn't a place to engage in this debate, but a quick correction: Mio Digiwalker is not a phone, but a dedicated GPS device. Nokia's N95 *may* have true GPS, I can't find hard info. If the Treo had GPS, I probably wouldn't have sold it.

Unless your phone spends 30 seconds every time you're outdoors saying "acquiring satellites", you don't have true satellite GPS, but are using the cell-tower-based system.

I simply don't understand why this feature couldn't have been implemented on the iPhone. It would save loads of time entering your current location when getting directions.
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in own a Mio digiwalker 701, it's a Windows mobile phone, with a camera, touch screen, and GPS.

a GPS would be really great on the iPhone, it's powerful enough for a version of google earth, not just google maps, imagine that !

the Nokia N95 definitely has real GPS. see here

OK for the treo, GPS is an add-on.
 
You tell Pat you're not a blogger or a journalist and then post this, nice. What restaurant was that? I'd like to avoid it, at least as long as you're working there. You do realise that leaking information is extremely frowned upon at Apple to say the least, I'd guess Pat will lose a job because of that drunken bad decision and your thread here. You see a customer having a good time, probably after having a few or more drinks, you swoop in promising confidentiality and BAM! right in the back. Wow.
 
arn said:
I pushed the Safari button and finger-text-input my own web site, which I know is pretty slow to load. I made two typo's in the web address window, and asked Pat how to fix the typos. Pat showed me that if I pushed my finger on the web address window and held it down, a virtual round magnifying glass (bigger than the end of my finger) pops up on the screen above your finger with a black vertical cursor in the middle of the glass. As you move your finger left and right, the the magnifying glass and cursor smoothly move showing an exploded view of what is under your finger. Even though the text is small under your finger, it looks much bigger and easier to edit in the magnifying glass. When I moved my finger over the mistyped letter, I hit the backspace (lower right keyboard) and retyped the missed character.
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Did anyone watch the new video up today? The iPhone has the feature. Dun da dun dun
 
arn said:
I pushed the Safari button and finger-text-input my own web site, which I know is pretty slow to load. I made two typo's in the web address window, and asked Pat how to fix the typos. Pat showed me that if I pushed my finger on the web address window and held it down, a virtual round magnifying glass (bigger than the end of my finger) pops up on the screen above your finger with a black vertical cursor in the middle of the glass. As you move your finger left and right, the the magnifying glass and cursor smoothly move showing an exploded view of what is under your finger. Even though the text is small under your finger, it looks much bigger and easier to edit in the magnifying glass. When I moved my finger over the mistyped letter, I hit the backspace (lower right keyboard) and retyped the missed character. VERY COOL! I've never heard any word of this feature before either. Even with Edge, the page loaded noticeably faster than with my Sprint Treo 650.
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totally seems this guy was the real deal... excellent reporting arn!:apple:
 
yep...

and pogue's video shows the little "E" on the top left signifying Edge, just like the poster said.

(note, per his request, we removed references to his real name and photos in this thread)

arn
 
arn said:
yep...

and pogue's video shows the little "E" on the top left signifying Edge, just like the poster said.

(note, per his request, we removed references to his real name and photos in this thread)

arn
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A little bit of redemption feels good. I was moving through the screens fairly fast because I didn't know when Pat would ask for the phone back. Trying to remember all that I saw in a relatively short period of time was the biggest challenge.
 
Vinom said:
A little bit of redemption feels good. I was moving through the screens fairly fast because I didn't know when Pat would ask for the phone back. Trying to remember all that I saw in a relatively short period of time was the biggest challenge.
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You did well. Thanks again K.
 
Vinom said:
A little bit of redemption feels good. I was moving through the screens fairly fast because I didn't know when Pat would ask for the phone back. Trying to remember all that I saw in a relatively short period of time was the biggest challenge.
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Go Vinom! I believed you the whole time... it was well-written. Good stuff!
 
My personal bet is that 100% of the content of this report proves accurate.
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I think some folks here have some crow to eat, and some humility to show to Mr. Vinom. Each and every item he specified has proven true, accurate, and IMHO, extremely well described from memory.

Thanks, V, for the update, and you'll go down in history (among certain folks anyway) as the first 'regular' person to post a hands-on review of an iPhone.

Much appreciated!
 
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