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It means the 970's will definitely make their way into the desktop line eventually...just be patient. A 64 bit chip's native home is in a server, so its only logical thats where it will start in the Apple product line.
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evilfunkgenius
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It is going to be an announcement about OS X 10.3 and new server hardware running 64 bit 970s (hence "a new era in computing"). It won't be a public keynote either. Just think how much the developers are paying to go to this, for the privlidge of seeing it first. And why would they release consumer products at a developer event?
Therefore, if the 15.4" PB is released on the same day, it will be independant of the announcement and just posted as an upgrade to the website. No tower upgrade until Macworld NY.
Just my guesses.
Therefore, if the 15.4" PB is released on the same day, it will be independant of the announcement and just posted as an upgrade to the website. No tower upgrade until Macworld NY.
Just my guesses.
Some say...
Some say that the boxes being sent to Apple stores contain various promotional items and displays for, well, something, not necessarily new products themselves.
And for anyone wondering why Apple is showing the Keynote in Apple stores and not live on the web simulataneously (that we know of) is to get people *into the stores.*
All those stores need to start making some money for Apple or pretty soon all that there will be of Apple Stores are some free-standing carts in the open areas of the mall showing iPods and some boxed Apple software.
Some say that the boxes being sent to Apple stores contain various promotional items and displays for, well, something, not necessarily new products themselves.
And for anyone wondering why Apple is showing the Keynote in Apple stores and not live on the web simulataneously (that we know of) is to get people *into the stores.*
All those stores need to start making some money for Apple or pretty soon all that there will be of Apple Stores are some free-standing carts in the open areas of the mall showing iPods and some boxed Apple software.
but does this mean that no Powe Macs will be immediately available? Within 2 months?
At the very least will Apple announce a release date for 970 based PowerMacs?
At the very least will Apple announce a release date for 970 based PowerMacs?
Remember, the G4 iMac was a new era too--hyped on Apple.com
Remember, the G4 iMac was a new era too--hyped on Apple.com, which WWDC has not been. I actually wasn't disappointed by that being the bombshell, but many were. So.. Apple DOES overhype sometimes. Maybe that works on the media, so they're willing to disappoint a few rumor fans?
My predictions:
* New G4 Al PowerBooks:
12" 1 GHz
15" 1 and 1.2 (or 1.4) GHz (the small box)
17" 1.2 (or 1.4) to follow not long after (maybe with price drop)
I bet the 12" and 15" will stay at close to the current reduced prices even though faster. No new iBooks--yet.
* New 23" (or 30") adjustable Cinema Display, hinting at future design revisions for the other sizes (the big box)
* Great Panther demo, release in Sept.--this will be THE big part of the show
* 970 sneak preview and bake-off, towers shipping in late Sept. with Panther and new mice/keyboards--this will be the second-biggest part, not THAT much faster than G4s but will get faster and faster over the next 6 months (Xserve 970s to ship soon after the towers, no PowerBook 970s this year but hopefully early next)
* Quietly speed-boosted and price-dropped G4 towers to tide over people who need SOMETHING before then. They might throw in the new mice/keyboards with these, and maybe a free Panther coupon--these would not even get MENTION at WWDC
* Maybe one or two little software apps--like a new iChat for instance
* Maybe some minor hardware/accessories introduced like a dock with wireless remote for iPod, or a web camera
All together not too shabby, but not the revolution we might hope for. But be patient!
Pure guesswork though.
Remember, the G4 iMac was a new era too--hyped on Apple.com, which WWDC has not been. I actually wasn't disappointed by that being the bombshell, but many were. So.. Apple DOES overhype sometimes. Maybe that works on the media, so they're willing to disappoint a few rumor fans?
My predictions:
* New G4 Al PowerBooks:
12" 1 GHz
15" 1 and 1.2 (or 1.4) GHz (the small box)
17" 1.2 (or 1.4) to follow not long after (maybe with price drop)
I bet the 12" and 15" will stay at close to the current reduced prices even though faster. No new iBooks--yet.
* New 23" (or 30") adjustable Cinema Display, hinting at future design revisions for the other sizes (the big box)
* Great Panther demo, release in Sept.--this will be THE big part of the show
* 970 sneak preview and bake-off, towers shipping in late Sept. with Panther and new mice/keyboards--this will be the second-biggest part, not THAT much faster than G4s but will get faster and faster over the next 6 months (Xserve 970s to ship soon after the towers, no PowerBook 970s this year but hopefully early next)
* Quietly speed-boosted and price-dropped G4 towers to tide over people who need SOMETHING before then. They might throw in the new mice/keyboards with these, and maybe a free Panther coupon--these would not even get MENTION at WWDC
* Maybe one or two little software apps--like a new iChat for instance
* Maybe some minor hardware/accessories introduced like a dock with wireless remote for iPod, or a web camera
All together not too shabby, but not the revolution we might hope for. But be patient!
Pure guesswork though.
Powermac 970s will probably be available within 2 months. Most likely some time in July (early, mid, or late).
Bet on this
Here are the facts:
1. Apple is showing new servers Monday with OSX Panther, they just announced it.
2. The Keynote is not available to the public through a stream, at least that has not been announced yet.
It's very doubtful that A MAJOR upgrade to desktops ( 970 ) will be shown or announced if there is not a public stream of the keynote. Have you ever seen apple announce a product this big without a public showing, They want to sell the things Remember. Answer NO.
It's simple,
If the keynote is not live there will be No 970 debut on Monday!
Here are the facts:
1. Apple is showing new servers Monday with OSX Panther, they just announced it.
2. The Keynote is not available to the public through a stream, at least that has not been announced yet.
It's very doubtful that A MAJOR upgrade to desktops ( 970 ) will be shown or announced if there is not a public stream of the keynote. Have you ever seen apple announce a product this big without a public showing, They want to sell the things Remember. Answer NO.
It's simple,
If the keynote is not live there will be No 970 debut on Monday!
It's not logical to use an unproven cpu in servers, especially if you are a new server vendor.
Plus PowerMac sales will stop dead.
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AhmedFaisal
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That frenchman's info about 970 etc better be real...
... or he is going to have the label "biggest BS-Talker of the Community" tatooed to his forehead and website for life!
Cheers,
Ahmed
... or he is going to have the label "biggest BS-Talker of the Community" tatooed to his forehead and website for life!
Cheers,
Ahmed
Re: Bet on this
The Launch of the iTMS wasn't streamed live I don't think. They posted a movie of it later though. So, they could releaes new products without streaming it live.
The Launch of the iTMS wasn't streamed live I don't think. They posted a movie of it later though. So, they could releaes new products without streaming it live.
well since apple stores are getting them i believe this story more now. boy this is gonna be excited, im treating this like a macworld. and the best thing is that even though it isnt a macworld, one will come up in the following month with even more stuff to get excited about.
iJon
iJon
It was streamed
The iTMS broadcast was streamed but the quality wasnt the best as it was being hit by all those who knew about it. It came from a CNBC website i believe. So it might happen again this time round too.
It's going to be great to wake up the next morming and find all new products up on Apples website
The iTMS broadcast was streamed but the quality wasnt the best as it was being hit by all those who knew about it. It came from a CNBC website i believe. So it might happen again this time round too.
It's going to be great to wake up the next morming and find all new products up on Apples website
Re: It was streamed
that might not happen if stuff isn't shipping...
i guess there'd at least be announcements, but maybe not... depends if they give a time period for release and all that.
will certainly be exciting though.
Originally posted by MacMarino
It's going to be great to wake up the next morming and find all new products up on Apples website
that might not happen if stuff isn't shipping...
i guess there'd at least be announcements, but maybe not... depends if they give a time period for release and all that.
will certainly be exciting though.
Re: Bet on this
Apparently the original iMac was announced at WWDC. No idea whether there was a public stream, probably wasn't since most people didn't have broadband back then.
Apparently the original iMac was announced at WWDC. No idea whether there was a public stream, probably wasn't since most people didn't have broadband back then.
Re: OSX Servers @ WWDC
Not much. OS X and OS X Server development and releases go pretty much hand in hand. OS X Server is an install on top of OS X that replaces some things, but the core of the operating systems are pretty much the same.
Last year all the WWDC attendees got beta copies of OS X Server and OS X. This year won't be any different.
[edit: I don't expect this year to be any different...]
Not much. OS X and OS X Server development and releases go pretty much hand in hand. OS X Server is an install on top of OS X that replaces some things, but the core of the operating systems are pretty much the same.
Last year all the WWDC attendees got beta copies of OS X Server and OS X. This year won't be any different.
[edit: I don't expect this year to be any different...]