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Not so good long term support though. Buy a new gen of your previous-gen speaker or get grandfathered out of the next major Sonos app update.
Actually, Sonos is probably the best on this - by far. They are at a completely different level than Apple, which is one of the best of the rest.

The Sonos speakers I bought in 2015 are still fully supported. They did have one split when the oldest devices stayed on their older OS, S1 - but the newest of the devices that didn't get S2 was 11 years old.

And S1 is still supported as well.
 
Bought me a cabled studio headphone from BeyerDynamics. I‘m happy that now I have one crap less to charge. I don’t need noise canceling, they seal well, very comfy and also fits my big head and ears. They also support lightning and usb-c. Any part is replaceable, the pads can be washed at 40° in the washing machine, and the previous model which exist since approx. 35 years is still supported and eligible for repairs.

 
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I think this is quite interesting and something I'd definitely check out!
Would be cool if you could have the headphones as a separate zone when you're at home with your Sonos system and use them as normal BT headphones when you're not.
 
But I think they should have taken what they needed and dispensed with the beats as a headphone brand. I never thought much of beats but knew they were bass heavy, which I do like at times.

I only bought beats once, and only because apple owned them. If it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t have touched them with a barge pole.
At the time Beats was the most profitable headphone brand in the world (currently it's No.2 after Apple) and music streaming was still a very small part of their business. Apple probably didn't need headphone division but they would have been stupid to throw it away with so much value behind the brand.
 
I don't see the point in this. Sonos is a company known for their whole home streaming prowess, not audio fidelity. How do headphones fit into this? Presumably you'll still need a device with the Sonos Controller to start playing media which begs the question, why would you wear Sonos headphones instead of an existing known premium brand? I ask this as a Sonos enthusiast...
It is possible for a company to expand their product line. Apple used to be personal computers, then they made the iPod, and changed the music industry. Then they made the iPhone, and changed that industry. Then they went into the streaming service. On top of that, a speaker company starting to make headphones isn’t exactly a stretch of the imagination. They're Closely related products; both speakers, just different applications.
 
I don't see the point in this. Sonos is a company known for their whole home streaming prowess, not audio fidelity. How do headphones fit into this? Presumably you'll still need a device with the Sonos Controller to start playing media which begs the question, why would you wear Sonos headphones instead of an existing known premium brand? I ask this as a Sonos enthusiast...
My guess? It will have wifi on board for direct Sonos streaming, which is a nice differentiator from bluetooth only headphones. Roam the house, always connected!
 
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I don't see the point in this. Sonos is a company known for their whole home streaming prowess, not audio fidelity. How do headphones fit into this? Presumably you'll still need a device with the Sonos Controller to start playing media which begs the question, why would you wear Sonos headphones instead of an existing known premium brand? I ask this as a Sonos enthusiast...
Bose was a home stereo and commercial audio brand for most of its existence, it didn't enter the consumer headphones market until 2000 and now they're a major player in high-end headphones. I'm sure there are plenty of consumers out there who would say "I like my Sonos speaker so I'll give these a try." I doubt they'd require an additional Sonos product to be used, they'll likely be just standard Bluetooth headphones.
 
The XM4 is the one to beat (XM4s are superior to XM5s IMO). If they do that, I'm all in.
I have Sennheiser Momentum 4’s and they sound really great. I’ve always had luck with Sennheiser headphones. I’m curious where Sonos will try to play here. I assume competing with Sony and Bose.
 
They bought them for $3 billion, and Apple Music generated $8.3 billion in revenue last year. Great investment.
So the company that revolutionized music with iPod and iTunes had to spend $3B on a crappy headphone brand (and lets be clear, Beats were known for headphones not music streaming) to get a streaming music service off the ground?
 
So the company that revolutionized music with iPod and iTunes had to spend $3B on a crappy headphone brand (and lets be clear, Beats were known for headphones not music streaming) to get a streaming music service off the ground?
I suspect the original AirPods were delayed. They seem like such an obvious fit with the Apple Watch that it’s surprising that they didn’t launch simultaneously. (And they didn’t launch simultaneously with the iPhone 7, either.) That suggests that development of the AirPods was difficult and the AirPods were seriously delayed (Apple probably would have preferred to announce them at the same time as the Apple Watch and launch them simultaneously). It seems like the Beats acquisition probably also helped bring the OG AirPods to market, while the streaming service acquisition would have been cheaper (and faced less regulatory resistance) than, say, acquiring Spotify (which was a rumor floated at the time).
 
Bose was a home stereo and commercial audio brand for most of its existence, it didn't enter the consumer headphones market until 2000 and now they're a major player in high-end headphones. I'm sure there are plenty of consumers out there who would say "I like my Sonos speaker so I'll give these a try." I doubt they'd require an additional Sonos product to be used, they'll likely be just standard Bluetooth headphones.
Bose isn't high end :rolleyes:
 
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I don't see the point in this. Sonos is a company known for their whole home streaming prowess, not audio fidelity. How do headphones fit into this? Presumably you'll still need a device with the Sonos Controller to start playing media which begs the question, why would you wear Sonos headphones instead of an existing known premium brand? I ask this as a Sonos enthusiast...
The Sonos app provides setup functionality and management of network Sonos devices. You don't need it for Bluetooth comms.
 
Apple should have bought Sonos instead of Beats
If they tried, Sonos was smart to decline. Apple would have ruined their products and vision and customers would be locked in to craptastic Apple Music (service and app). No thank you...You can have your ugly homepods.
 
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If they tried, Sonos was smart to decline. Apple would have ruined their products and vision and customers would be locked in to craptastic Apple Music (service and app). No thank you...You can have your ugly homepods.
Sonos can only dream about reaching that level, laughable! Sonos is nothing but an eyesore with atrocious user experience. Its sound quality might pass for third-world countries, but it's an absolute joke for Apple users.
 
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Sonos can only dream about reaching that level, laughable! Sonos is nothing but an eyesore with atrocious user experience. Its sound quality might pass for third-world countries, but it's an absolute joke for Apple users.
How many hometurds do you have?
 
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You don’t need the sonos app to communicate with a sonos device over bluetooth. Bluetooth is a standard. Keep up.

You will first need the app and WiFi in order to set it up. You cannot unpack, plugin, connect over BT without the app and WiFi.


Era 300 must first be set up on WiFi using the Sonos app. Following setup, you can easily pair a Bluetooth device by pressing the button on the back of the speaker. Please note that if you use a pair as rear speakers for home theater surround sound, Bluetooth will be disabled.
 
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