I did this and went with the Symfonisk. Works great! đź‘Ťyup thats the next step
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Sonos Discounting Speakers, Sound Bars, and More for Black Friday (Up to $200 Off)
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You keep harping on bricking. It’s not a thing any more. There was a short period where Sonos was offering a discount in return for volunteering to send the speakers in for recycling (and they put them into “recycle mode” - bricking - at that point, after you agreed to it). It was never something they just arbitrarily did. And people complained and they changed their policy and now they support those speakers on a legacy version of the app (and there are good technical reasons why the legacy speakers and the newer ones can’t play together).
Apple has also made missteps, and then recovered from them, just like Sonos. Why have you not permanently sworn off all Apple products? Why are you not spending all your time yelling that people should not buy Macs because of the butterfly keyboards (that they no longer use)? That would make just as much sense. It seems like you’ve latched onto a mistake they made - and then subsequently corrected - and now you’re never going to let go of it, for emotional reasons. But you don’t apply that equally to, say, Apple.
The whole point of the recycle mode was to get the oldest of the speakers out of the codebase the newer speakers were using, because they were holding Sonos back from supporting new features. Apple won’t let my 2011 MBP run Big Sur (or Catalina, or Mojave) either, and Microsoft can’t support 486’s in Windows 10. But Sonos doesn’t do separate yearly app releases, so they tried incentives to get the oldest speakers out of circulation - when there was a backlash, they changed their strategy - now you can get the 30% discount and keep the old speakers, and they still work fine on the legacy version of the app. This is more than fair - Apple’s not offering me a 30% discount for my 2011 MBP to use on a new M1 Mac.
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I want to buy a Sonos Arc and 2 One SLs for myself for Christmas but I've been holding back for a few weeks waiting for Black Friday offers. Unfortunately these offers aren't showing up in the UK and even if they were, the combination of hardware I want doesn't have any discounts.
The discounts this year are on the Move, Beam, and Sub. There’s basically zero chance of the Arc being discounted, because they can’t make enough of them as it is - they’re perpetually on back order, ever since they were released in May.
This may be dipping a bit into severe paranoia but just because Google and Amazon say it won’t do anything until you enable it doesn’t mean that’s true. Facebook, Google and Amazon have all been caught sending data from Apple computers/phones in the past without permission.
True, but just to throw it in here, Apple says the same thing. You never really know who's listening or why. And like I said, if you are that bothered by it, turn off the mic, or buy the SL or symfonisk which don't have a mic at all.
Not to mention, in this instance, sonos would have to enable the voice assistant without your knowledge. I just really don't see that as even a remote concern.
I've got few Sonos products (Play:1, Play:3 and Amp connected to my old speakers + two One's as surround) and recently purchased my first HomePod. My thoughts:
- I like the sound of HomePod more than of Sonos One's - it definitely has more bass (which may be not a good thing from audiophile perspective, but I really enjoy it ). But obviously HomePod is more expensive than Sonos One...
- Sonos is more universal system - you are not as tied to Apple ecosystem as with HomePods
- I love my TV setup with Sonos - it was so easy to install, no wires needed for surrounds, etc. It seems that it is not currently possible to make anything similar with HomePods / HomePods minis (didn't investigate that too much, so I may be wrong about it)
- Sonos DID brick old perfectly working devices "on demand" - it was a huge mistake but fortunately they realized that quite quickly and changed the policy (definitely quicker than Apple reverted from butterfly keyboard )
- I wish all Sonos products had Bluetooth. And even not to use them as standard Bluetooth speakers, but to enhance Airplay usability - sometimes I have to disconnect my phone from WIFI (unfortunately I often have problems with my home internet connection) - after that I can still airdrop music to HomePod, but not to Sonos - it disapears from the Airplay list as soon as I disconnect from wifi.
- I find the Sonos app worse than Music app for discovering music to be played. I always tend to use Music app on my iPhone for that. But when I find something interesting, I cannot easily "transfer" it to the Sonos App. Sure, I can use Airplay (actually most of my Sonos products do not support it) but then it is my iPhone that is streaming the music - so it is not exactly the same as starting the music via Sonos App. I really wish they added "Send to Sonos App" feature to iPhone's share sheet in the Music app.
no chance lol. it just came out and they can't keep it in stock. no point to discount it when everyone is already buying it up.
not really comparable when you only have TWO homepods. come back when you have it all around the house and you'll be singing a different tune regarding usability. I had 9 homepods and had issues all the time. Sonos is way better just in how it functions and the app is great.
The SLs will be discounted in the UK 26th Nov, says WhatHifi…
We've tracked down all the best Sonos deals so you don't have to
Sonos makes excellent wireless speakers and soundbars, and many get regular discounts - here are the best prices around right now
All these older speakers are still working just fine. It's just that the newer speakers can now be used with a newer app that offers more features. Not sure what the issue is here?
I hope that Apple’s reputation for privacy isn’t all smoke and mirrors, but I don’t have any real way to test it. And who’s information are you going to trust? Any source of information can have a reason to say or hide something and you may not find out for quite some time, if ever.
I have a SONOS system from the era that they briefly threatened to brick. It all still works. I was thinking about moving to Homepods but I found out that you can’t use them as stereo output for your computer as a primary output. In other words, music can be stereo but computer system sounds and outputs can’t. I don’t know if that includes watching movies on your Mac computer. More than kind of a deal breaker for me it’s an absolute brick wall. If I have stereo speakers I want them to work with ANY sound source, movies, music, online sound and computer notices.
Yeah Sonos made a mistake with that and have since switched to the policy of giving customers with legacy products a discount without needing to brick their older products (so they can continue using them, sell them or whatever). What's the issue? It's not like Apple has never made terrible decisions which they walked back when people complained.
I'll be shocked if Apple is still supporting the original HomePod in 10 years. I'd guess it has another 4-5 years at best. Good luck!
I've been wanting to buy a sub for my living room Sonos setup (currently Beam plus 2 Play:1s as surrounds), but I'm worried it will be too much bass considering I live in a condo (and I don't want to be that guy). Maybe I just need to try it out...
Also thinking of picking up a One SL to turn a single One that's in another room into a stereo pair, but sadly that doesn't seem to be on sale...
Also thinking of picking up a One SL to turn a single One that's in another room into a stereo pair, but sadly that doesn't seem to be on sale...
A microphone diaphragm and the speaker driver diaphragm are similar. If someone is really concerned about being spied on they shouldn’t have speakers in their environment as the driver could be converted into a microphone.
Technically that's true, except that the speaker is on the output side of the amp, unless you rewire the speaker that would never work.
Sounds fair enough and makes sense. I'll pay the full price if I have to. I was just holding back on the off chance there's a discount and I miss it.
The SLs will be discounted in the UK 26th Nov, says WhatHifi…
We've tracked down all the best Sonos deals so you don't have to
Sonos makes excellent wireless speakers and soundbars, and many get regular discounts - here are the best prices around right nowwww.whathifi.com
Sounds good to me! Thanks for the tip. Even if I just save a bit on the One SL's it'll be something! Not expecting to save on the Arc as it's a new product. I'll def wait until Thursday before placing my order. Cheers!
Actually they're alot better than most. They're extremely good with repairing defects I just had a pair if Airpod Pros replaced in under a week via mail because of a defect. Also there's an open keyboard repair on Mac keyboards. The process is rather painless. If you compare it to thing like recalls on cars or the latest Boeing disaster... Apple looks great or even something closer like Google Pixel defects.yeah bc apple is just the perfect company lol
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That’s in addition to an earlier $500 million settlement.www.theverge.com
It's not much different than Apple's iPhone upgrade program where you turn in your old iPhone to get recycled and in exchange you get a discount on a new iPhone.
The only real difference is you don't have to send the speakers back to Sonos; You can drop it off at a local recycling center if you have one. That way you don't have to box everything up and pay to have it shipped back to Sonos. Now that's bad for the environment (shipping packaging ending up in the landfill, fuel wasted shipping speakers back to Sonos, etc.).
If you see Sonos' attempt to encourage people to recycle their old outdated unsupported legacy speakers as bad for the environment and bad for business, then the same is true for Apple wanting to recycle perfectly useable [sic] iPhones to get people to buy new ones.
Is that how you feel about Apple's trade-in/upgrade programs where they recycle still perfectly useable [sic] but old tech?
Apple must be greedy and not thoughtful either, right? Will you be done with Apple now too?
Hey, Apple! Why do that? Why not give customers with older legacy iPhones a discount instead of having them send in their still perfectly usable but old iPhones to be recycled? Give them a discount and let them donate the old iPhone to someone.
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