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I’m wondering the same thing. Close-to-full-quality console games would be very welcome, and I would pay console prices for them.
Uncharted: Golden Abyss was a launch title for the Vita (and one of my favorite Vita games). I’m sure any recent iPad can handle the game from a graphics / computation perspective. It would be cool to see some Vita games gain a second life on another platform (Uncharted, Freedom Wars, & Killzone: Mercenary, to name a couple).
 
I've no idea but I'll assume your right because I've reason to doubt you.
It's 15%, and I suppose that technically speaking they could apply for the program if they're either coming in under an entirely new developer contract or they haven't already broken the million-dollar threshold in 2020.

To be clear, Sony is on the App Store already, however, and while most of their apps are completely free, they do have a few that include in-game purchases, so it's possible that they've already exceeded that threshold.

Do you believe Sony will begin to pay 30% cut once they exceed a million in sales?

Do you believe Sony and Apple will not attempt to broker a special interest deal and scratch each others backs in the process?
I don't believe that Apple and Sony will broker a special deal — at least not one that's exclusively for Sony.

Very technically speaking, Apple doesn't make special deals for only one company. Yes, there was the news about Amazon last year, but it's important to keep in mind that resulted in a whole "Video Partner Program" that ended up being open to any streaming provider who qualified, and when Apple finally did reveal the program to the broader community, they had over 100 developers participating.

That said, I have absolutely no doubt that this program was prompted out of a desire to get Amazon on board, as pretty much all of the evidence points to that, but Apple didn't want to be seen as making a special backroom deal, so it created an entire program around what it wanted to do for Amazon (and what it wanted Amazon to do for it).

It's also fair to say that Apple wanted (and got) something out of this deal as well. Streaming providers were required to fully embrace the Apple TV ecosystem in exchange for the lower rates. It was very much a contractual tit-for-tat agreement, which is just good business.

Apple's only mistake was keeping it a secret from the wider developer community, although to be fair it was never a secret among those developers who would have qualified — Apple promoted the program quite widely within the world of on-demand streaming services.

With even more scrutiny today, Apple is going to bend over even further backwards to avoid any appearance of special deals for only one developer. In other words, the only way Sony will work out a special deal is if Apple can figure out how to create a new program that would apply equally and fairly to other game developers — and that's a much tougher nut to crack than it is for premium on-demand video streaming services.

In fact, about the only way I could see this happening is if Sony wanted to created a PSN-style game streaming service on iOS, and Apple reversed course on allowing game streaming services, but that's a move that seems very unlikely on Apple's part. Unlike the case with video streaming services, there's not nearly as much of an upside to Apple for this — at least not right now.
 
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Isn't something like this already on my Xbox? Remotely playing xbox games on my iPhone with my xbox controller?
 
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Uncharted: Golden Abyss was a launch title for the Vita (and one of my favorite Vita games). I’m sure any recent iPad can handle the game from a graphics / computation perspective. It would be cool to see some Vita games gain a second life on another platform (Uncharted, Freedom Wars, & Killzone: Mercenary, to name a couple).
Definitely, because one of the iPads (4th gen?) had the same GPU.
 
I know, that's why i said it would be great if this could extend to them, not that it does.
As long as we’re extending; if Housemarque could get Super Stardust HD and Resogun onto the iPlatform that would be awesome. The only similar game for iPads is Geometry Wars 3.
 
It's 15%, and I suppose that technically speaking they could apply for the program if they're either coming in under an entirely new developer contract or they haven't already broken the million-dollar threshold in 2020.

To be clear, Sony is on the App Store already, however, and while most of their apps are completely free, they do have a few that include in-game purchases, so it's possible that they've already exceeded that threshold.


I don't believe that Apple and Sony will broker a special deal — at least not one that's exclusively for Sony.

Very technically speaking, Apple doesn't make special deals for only one company. Yes, there was the news about Amazon last year, but it's important to keep in mind that resulted in a whole "Video Partner Program" that ended up being open to any streaming provider who qualified, and when Apple finally did reveal the program to the broader community, they had over 100 developers participating.

That said, I have absolutely no doubt that this program was prompted out of a desire to get Amazon on board, as pretty much all of the evidence points to that, but Apple didn't want to be seen as making a special backroom deal, so it created an entire program around what it wanted to do for Amazon (and what it wanted Amazon to do for it).

It's also fair to say that Apple wanted (and got) something out of this deal as well. Streaming providers were required to fully embrace the Apple TV ecosystem in exchange for the lower rates. It was very much a contractual tit-for-tat agreement, which is just good business.

Apple's only mistake was keeping it a secret from the wider developer community, although to be fair it was never a secret among those developers who would have qualified — Apple promoted the program quite widely within the world of on-demand streaming services.

With even more scrutiny today, Apple is going to bend over even further backwards to avoid any appearance of special deals for only one developer. In other words, the only way Sony will work out a special deal is if Apple can figure out how to create a new program that would apply equally and fairly to other game developers — and that's a much tougher nut to crack than it is for premium on-demand video streaming services.

In fact, about the only way I could see this happening is if Sony wanted to created a PSN-style game streaming service on iOS, and Apple reversed course on allowing game streaming services, but that's a move that seems very unlikely on Apple's part. Unlike the case with video streaming services, there's not nearly as much of an upside to Apple for this — at least not right now.
I respect and appreciate the time you've taken to outline your thoughts. I completely understand what your saying, that, essentially, apple are now in the spotlight for this type of thing due to the amazon business last year. You might say that they dare not put a foot wrong on this type of thing or they might well be crucified in the court of public opinion.

However, I would argue that this is not how Apples top management plan for the future. Apple can only make changes at such a rate as which does not significantly affect their bottom line in terms of their year on year profitability.

If Apple and many other large tech companies were conscious of public opinion their use of Foxconn as their primary manufacturing company would have ended around 2010/2011 when all those Foxconn workers committed suicide.

I'd encourage you to read a book called "Dying for an iPhone" describing a new generation of workers struggling to meet corporate requirements for speed and precision in producing iphones and other high tech products precisely at a time when consumers around the globe are queueing up to buy the latest models. Apples success is intimately bound up with the production of quality products at high speed. Given its control of the commanding heights of hardware, software and design, Apple has remained in the driver's seating setting the terms and conditions for Foxconn and, in turn, for its workers.

I do not believe Apple, Sony and other big tech will not bow to public opinion, but instead attempt to become more opaque in their operating models through use of NDAs etc.
 
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Bring God of War! That would be an amazing port, they did a version on PSP, and iPhones/iPads are equal if not far more powerful
 
Yeah one of the smarter things MS did was make gamepass include the xbox network subscription. Since it is needed to play online anyways getting "free" games included is a no brainer.
PlayStation Plus includes free games. PlayStation Now is equivalent to Xbox Live streaming service.
 
PlayStation Plus includes free games. PlayStation Now is equivalent to Xbox Live streaming service.
Not really the same thing (as you have to "buy" thm before the month is over otherwise you cannot get them at all). Plus MS has the Games with Gold (that is the literal xbox equivalent). Gamepass + Network sub has no equal on the Sony side.
 
Anyway, I couldn't give a monkeys about mobile gaming (except strategy games - I wish proper PC strategy games were all on iPad), but if the next Naughty Dog games come to PC I will never need to buy a PS5.
The ironic thing is that strategy games are a very good fit for tablets as opposed to fast-paced games.
 
I respect and appreciate the time you've taken to outline your thoughts. I completely understand what your saying, that, essentially, apple are now in the spotlight for this type of thing due to the amazon business last year. You might say that they dare not put a foot wrong on this type of thing or they might well be crucified in the court of public opinion.
Well, in this case it's not so much the public opinion, but the matter of avoiding any needless antitrust scrutiny.

Like any large business, Apple makes decisions that benefit the bottom line. The fact that so many of Apple's decisions are relatively consumer-friendly (making accessible products, focusing on privacy, etc), is just a side-effect of that. However, Apple isn't so completely arrogant as to think it can do anything it pleases, and it's pragmatic enough to not whack the hornet's nests of government regulators and lawmakers unless there's a really good financial benefit from doing so.

For instance, Apple fights tooth and nail to defend its multi-billion dollar App Store business, however when it came to AirTags, there's little doubt that it deliberately delayed the release of them until third-party Find My products were on board in order to avoid more allegations of anticompetitive behaviour. There's just no need to fight a battle over a $29 product that's ultimately designed to sell more iPhones — something that third-party products will also help do.

In the case of Amazon, there was clearly a benefit to Apple from crafting a special deal — getting the two companies to play nice in everything from Amazon Prime on the Apple TV to selling the Apple TV in the App Store. However, Apple also figured out how to do this in a reasonably fair and equitable manner that would allow an even bigger win — Apple could avoid looking like it was making special deals while getting even more premium on-demand video providers to support all of its tvOS and iOS features.

Siri works amazingly well on the Apple TV when it comes to searching for content, even across multiple apps, but it's likely Apple had to give up 15 percent of its App Store commission to encourage developers to do that. In that sense, it wasn't much different than if Apple had simply paid these companies outright to implement these features. It was never a special deal just because these were big companies, but rather a matter of Apple wanting something very specific from them that it basically had to pay for.

I'd encourage you to read a book called "Dying for an iPhone" describing a new generation of workers struggling to meet corporate requirements for speed and precision in producing iphones and other high tech products precisely at a time when consumers around the globe are queueing up to buy the latest models. Apples success is intimately bound up with the production of quality products at high speed. Given its control of the commanding heights of hardware, software and design, Apple has remained in the driver's seating setting the terms and conditions for Foxconn and, in turn, for its workers.
You are absolutely correct and I agree completely when it comes to Apple's supply-chain issues, but I also think that's in an entirely different category than what we're talking about when it comes to potential App Store deals, whether those are with Amazon, Sony, or anybody else.

Apple is only going to sign a special deal with Sony if there's some really lucrative benefit for Apple in doing so, and I honestly don't see what that benefit would possibly be. Is Sony's IP going to be so insanely popular on mobile that it will drive hordes of customers to buy an Android just to play God of War or The Last of Us? Maybe, but I don't see Apple kowtowing to Sony merely because of that possibility.

Further, it's not in Apple's best interests to craft a special deal with only one company. Why should Apple give one company an edge over its other competitors when it comes to the App Store, especially when Apple is the one that holds all of the cards. I'm sure at least part of the reason why the "Amazon deal" was actually the "Video Partner Program" was because Apple wasn't at all interested in specifically empowering Amazon to succeed. Instead, it's far better to give everyone a level playing field so they can fight for market share while Apple simply sits back and reaps the rewards equally from all.

I do not believe Apple, Sony and other big tech will not bow to public opinion, but instead attempt to become more opaque in their operating models through use of NDAs etc.
If the Epic games lawsuit has proven anything, it's the fact that these things eventually do come out, and companies do have to be careful how they operate. Nothing remains hidden for long, so it's ultimately a matter of how they can spin it and weather the storm when the negative stuff does come out.

Still, I think you're ultimately right that they don't care that much about public opinion. As any politician or marketing executive will tell you, the public is fickle and has a short attention span. Those of us who hang out on sites like MacRumors too easily forget that the other 99% of the public has only the vaguest idea that Epic and Apple are engaged in a lawsuit at all, much less all of the more specific revelations that are coming out of it.
 
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PlayStation Now exists and is a streaming platform of PS3 games plus installable PS4 games on the PS4 & PS5 consoles.
I thought there was a big thing about Apple saying you couldn't stream games that weren't individually inspected by Apple?
 
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