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The problem with it becoming the tipping point for stream vs d/l is the data use on a mobile device. If you stream music regularly you will really hit data caps or need a larger cap, unless you have wifi access. In addition, it means no music when you can't stream, such as when flying unless you want to pay for wifi where it is available.

I'd like to see a two option model: buy the song outright or be able to stream and download with the d/ls only playable while you have an active subscription. They could auto-expire after a certain number roof days and whenever you connect to the server automatically extend the date to your next renewal date.

All of the streaming services allow you to cache songs in "offline" mode. While on wifi you can quickly cache whole albums to your phone and then listen to them on the go without using bandwidth.

Spotify even has different music quality settings for cellular vs wifi... allowing you to stream low quality on cellular if you think of something you want to listen to that isn't cached... and then automatically cache the high quality version next time you hit wifi.

I do this a lot... not to save bandwidth, but to help with listening in the subway where reception is spotty. In my experience Spotify has MUCH better offline mode stuff than Beats. We'll have to see how Apple Music is.
 
And next thing you know samsung will
Launch their own streaming services called... Samsung Music

Samsung can barely do software. Their strength is clearly with hardware. The idea of a Samsung web service is odd, because it's not really what they're known for at all.
 
Under Steve Jobs, a reveal in advance of the keynote would have meant a broken partnership with Sony. The employee who revealed on Instagram would have been fired instantly as well.

"The times they are a changin'."

When the iPhone 4 was lost in a bar, did we hear about anyone getting fired?

Looks like Tim Cook & co can think for themselves rather than constantly thinking "What would Steve do?"
 
Am I the only one here who isn't looking forward to 20 minutes of Apple Watch & Apple Stores statistics and then another 30+ minutes dedicated to this music service?

I'm looking forward to stellar new OS X & iOS releases! And hopefully some other unknown surprises!

Agreed, since (most of) the macs have been refreshed, I want to see what the next OS X will be. Hoping this next release will focus on bug fixes and performance. I probably won't even watch the first half of the keynote, because it will be nothing but Apple Music, Watch, and how many devices they sold. That said, there is a still some hope we will see an Apple TV.
 
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Meh. I would never use Apple for my music streaming because unlike everyone else they refuse to be cross platform and in particular they refuse to support android at all.

I don't currently stream music but I am genuinely curious: What is missing from current offerings that people expect Apple to improve upon?
 
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Um, yes. Like almost everyone? Streaming is way more prevalent than downloads in this day and age.
I guess the question is does anyone care about paid streaming? I have a feeling people are willing to deal with ads in exchange for free streaming. If Apple doesn't offer some sort of free with ads tier I don't see them grabbing much of Spotify's share. They can prance a bunch of artists on stage and go on about "human curation" but I don't think people much care. Free trumps everything.
 
Apple wants 10 a month from you. Sorry apple, I don't do subs for music.
Maybe with that rumored 30/70 cut that Apple takes going down means a cheaper price for it. Like $8.99/month or cheaper. A $1 price cut may not seem much but it is a LOT at prices under 10 bucks.
 
And next thing you know samsung will
Launch their own streaming services called... Samsung Music

Samsung already has something similar but it's called Milk... MILK music o_O who names a music service after a dairy drink? That only does radio at the moment, but I'm sure they'll add subscriptions and specific song streaming now that :apple: is.
 
So tomorrow we'll see Apple Music (iTunes brand diminishing, first Android app); iOS 9; OS X 10.11 and Watch OS update with native apps... and people are bored?

For the last few years WWDC was the first Apple event of the year. This year we had Spring Forward, and still people are bored. Too many people in this forum are like kids who need Apple to entertain them, and fail to appreciate what Apple actually achieves.
 
The problem with it becoming the tipping point for stream vs d/l is the data use on a mobile device. If you stream music regularly you will really hit data caps or need a larger cap, unless you have wifi access. In addition, it means no music when you can't stream, such as when flying unless you want to pay for wifi where it is available.

I'd like to see a two option model: buy the song outright or be able to stream and download with the d/ls only playable while you have an active subscription. They could auto-expire after a certain number roof days and whenever you connect to the server automatically extend the date to your next renewal date.
The problem with it becoming the tipping point for stream vs d/l is the data use on a mobile device. If you stream music regularly you will really hit data caps or need a larger cap, unless you have wifi access. In addition, it means no music when you can't stream, such as when flying unless you want to pay for wifi where it is available.

I'd like to see a two option model: buy the song outright or be able to stream and download with the d/ls only playable while you have an active subscription. They could auto-expire after a certain number roof days and whenever you connect to the server automatically extend the date to your next renewal date.
I agree.
I hate the subscription model anything! 10 bucks here, 10 bucks there pretty soon you're talking' real money! I'd rather just pay and OWN something!
 
I'm sure I'll be all excited up until the part when they say it's in America only! Still waiting for Apple Pay and iTunes radio in the UK!

Yeah, that's my fear for this year too. With OS X and iOS being rumoured to be mainly 'housekeeping' releases and the feeling in my gut that any Apple Music service will be limited to the U.S. at launch, I can't shake the impression that this could be a WWDC with nothing in it for me.

If, miraculously, Apple Music does get a UK launch then I hope they at least use the Spotify Family model and let me add another subscriber for a discount. Unless it's part of sharing iTunes purchases of course which would be my ideal, if unlikely, scenario.
 
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Under Steve Jobs, a reveal in advance of the keynote would have meant a broken partnership with Sony. The employee who revealed on Instagram would have been fired instantly as well.

"The times they are a changin'."

Who says it won't happen under Cook. Maybe not a broken partnership but there could be huge penalties. Same with perhaps the employee won't be fired but will find himself in a much lower position or missing out on some big raise he might have gotten in a couple of months
 
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