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That's the kind of stuff that Apple makes you sign not to ever do. Someone might be in for a world of hurt over that photo. After WWDC it might be okay but before is not going to make Tim happy

Yep. After that photo of an Apple designer on Jony's jet on the way to Paris leaked his Instagram account went private. Kind of boneheaded thing for this guy to post.
 
This service better have a social component and be cross platform. iTunes is so I don't see how this will be any different. They should release it Android as well. It's an opportunity to grab some of that market.

Also that social component is spotify's ace in the hole. It seems pointless but it's what pulls people in.
 
That's the kind of stuff that Apple makes you sign not to ever do. Someone might be in for a world of hurt over that photo. After WWDC it might be okay but before is not going to make Tim happy

But don't you think the guy would know not to do that if in fact Apple DID tell him specifically not to do what he did? I'm sure he will be fine.
 
I don't think I know one person who buys music downloads. Everybody is streaming.

I do, and now you know. For me, it is simple convenience.. I do not have to use up my data every time I want to listen to songs. It is that simple for me. I pay once, download the song, and use it on any device I want, and don't care if I have internet or not.

This new streaming service may be good for a lot of people, and Spotify and many others are there to vouch for it, but streaming is just not for me. Or it may be that I am aloof to the advantages of streaming.. any which way, I can't seem to digest the data requirements for streaming and hence do not think it is worth it, for me.

I currently use 1GB on the iPhone and it is enough for when I move out of office. I do not even have to care if I am getting a reliable high speed connection, as long as mails come through. With streaming, if I have to listen to music, I will have to have a connection that is active, and would it not consume more battery in that case?

I have an unlimited internet supply at home, and office, and can maybe use streaming in such instances, but what about the times when there is service disruption? Simply means music disruption, no? Am I missing something here about the concept of 'streaming music'?
 
I think with the Apple Watch and Mac Pro. They have shown it is possible to create some surprises still without leaks.

The watch, whilst known about obviously, was only vaguely leaked with some case CADs hours before and the Mac Pro came from nowhere.

I am hoping for a Mac Pro update.
Me too. I think we’ll both be disapopointed.
 
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Under Steve Jobs, a reveal in advance of the keynote would have meant a broken partnership with Sony. The employee who revealed on Instagram would have been fired instantly as well.

"The times they are a changin'."

It is possible that Apple under the new leadership looks at things and issues a tad less impulsively. Also, it is possible that the Sony CEO may be given a piece of mind about the reveal, intentional or unintentional.
 
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I do, and now you know. For me, it is simple convenience.. I do not have to use up my data every time I want to listen to songs. It is that simple for me. I pay once, download the song, and use it on any device I want, and don't care if I have internet or not.
I don’t do either. I buy the CD or CD single on Amazon and rip it to my HD.
 
It would be nice if Apple also inked deals with cell carriers in countries where Apple Music is launching that would allow the use of the service to not count against data usage. That would allow for a sweeping change in the way people consume music.
 
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This service better have a social component and be cross platform. iTunes is so I don't see how this will be any different. They should release it Android as well. It's an opportunity to grab some of that market.

Also that social component is spotify's ace in the hole. It seems pointless but it's what pulls people in.
Exactly! No Ping = no sale
 
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Um, yes. Like almost everyone? Streaming is way more prevalent than downloads in this day and age.

I agree but for me I'd rather not pay someone $10mo to download music from their service. Way easier and more in line with the market to buy music on from any number of sites for like $.05 per song and stream it from my own WD Cloud server or even from any number of my own online clouds like Google, Amazon, etc.
 
It's true though. I know I don't care. I play music locally. I see no use in streaming music. Just buy a copy (online or disk), sync it with your iDevice and boom. You own your music when you buy it. You don't have that when you stream it.

Agree. Again, why pay for a service.....MP3Million, Ivave, etc. all have current music for pennies and then I can own it and stream it from my own source for 1/100th the cost
 
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It would be nice if Apple also inked deals with cell carriers in countries where Apple Music is launching that would allow the use of the service to not count against data usage. That would allow for a sweeping change in the way people consume music.
Even though I don't care about streaming music, that would be a VERY welcome thing to see. That's a game changer.
 
Agree. Again, why pay for a service.....

In Canada, buying an album is either 12.99 or more for the deluxe edition. Songs are 1.29 now. So for 10 bucks a month, I get all the music I want where 10 bucks really doesn't get me an album now-a-days. I just rather have a built in music app and give Apple my money rather than some yahoo in sweden or give google more info about me.
 
There seems to be a lot of conflict of whether streaming is good or not, and it really depends on who you are. If you buy music frequently, you always have access to the Internet and data is not an issue to you, then streaming can be really useful. However, if you don't buy music that often, or maybe have limited data/no access to it, streaming can be useless and a waste. As data becomes available everywhere, and high data plans become cheaper, the market and demand for streaming will grow.
 
Oh and streaming music doesnt interest me either. But an ATV announcement would be great...and didnt god-stevej say a few years back they had this cracked? The bottom line is the TV industry is not going to give away their content to apple the way the music industry did so they're playing hardball with Apple....as they should. And I think people are delusional if they think that the cable companies are going to let Apple steal their business. They will unbundle just as Apple is unbundling. Apple is late in this game wheras in music they were not...they led that offering.
 
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Going to be like Spotify, jlc1978. I would be shock if you couldn't download songs for offline use. Only difference between a song you buy & a song you download via the subscription service will be the DRM on the song via the subscription service.

I just want it available in Canada on day 1 (I know said it before, blah blah blah).

Only major difference which will probably have me switching is telling siri to skip a song or play another etc...
 
I'm sure I'll be all excited up until the part when they say it's in America only! Still waiting for Apple Pay and iTunes radio in the UK!

Well, all the reports lately have said that Apple Music is going to be available to other places, not just the US. UK is part of it :)

Maybe if you live in us you enjoy good apple maps but here it is incomparable with google maps

I'm in the UK and Apple Maps is better where I am than Google Maps, which shows my area as just fields, as it was over 10 years ago. Apple Maps is showing it from about 6 months old.

Does no one in the US offer unlimited data?

Here in the UK, I have unlimited data access on my phone, and I'm not unusual.

Exactly this. It seems the US is behind the times! Also, most of the Yanks on this forum are oblivious to the fact that Apple have customers outside of the UK.....

Apple wants 10 a month from you. Sorry apple, I don't do subs for music.

Wow, maybe they should give up now. Tons of people pay for Spotify, etc, so why is it hard to believe that people won't pay for Apple Music?

I guess the question is does anyone care about paid streaming? I have a feeling people are willing to deal with ads in exchange for free streaming. If Apple doesn't offer some sort of free with ads tier I don't see them grabbing much of Spotify's share. They can prance a bunch of artists on stage and go on about "human curation" but I don't think people much care. Free trumps everything.

Supposedly, the free tier is just iTunes Radio, with other streaming being on the paid side.

And how many people do you know who is prepared to spend $120 a year on music for the rest of their life?

Me neither.

So, you're ignoring people that use Spotify, Beats, Pandora, Rdio, Deezer, Google Play, Amazon Music, Xbox Music, Sony/PS Music...
 
If Apple wants to have a $10/mo music service, that's fine by me, but the existing iTunes Match service really should be made free, and the iCloud Photo's service should be separate from your iCould storage and offer free unlimited photo storage.... same pricing model as Google's services.
 
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Steven certainly has a very interesting social media presence - a gay guy who is into some pretty out-there rubber festish posting images of him in a dog gimp mask on the same page as posting an image of a yet unannounced Apple product...

I think he might be getting a phone call at some point this afternoon, after he leaves the fetish club!

Way to go though! Love how open he is!

Ugh. I found your first paragraph repulsive.

Let's stick to the topic, please.
 
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