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***Sony Vaio Z*** Stone-cold killer! It's going to be Apple Vs Sony for Arrandale imo

gwsat said:
First, I didn't think that you were at all rude. Second, I concur in your recommendation to JKCT that he consider getting more RAM for his virtualization programs. If his experience is anything like mine the improvement he will enjoy will be immediate and dramatic.
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im struggling to run with 4GB RAM on my imac + 1 virtualised OS (OSX server). im upgrading soon too haha.

I agree that OS X is not to blame for the relative slowness and the hunger for memory of virtualization programs. Anyway, once I bit the bullet and upgraded to 6GB of RAM I didn't have to worry about it any more. These days, I leave Fusion and Windows up and running for days at a time with no speed or stability problems. I have assigned 3GB of RAM and one of my two processor cores to Fusion.
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the RAM upgrade is DEF worth it (if you need it of course). makes the experience so much more enjoyable.

By the way, when I upgraded my RAM I also upgraded Fusion from version 2.x to 3.x and replaced XP with Windows 7. I rather like Windows 7, although I don't have to use its desktop except when I am configuring a new program. Otherwise I run Fusion in Unity mode so that I can open, use, and then close, Windows apps from the OS X Dock and desktop.
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Fusion upgrade + RAM upgrade + OS of virtual machine would have combined very nicely! performance increase + visual increase, not that you look at it much. i love the Unity/Coherence modes of the VM machines! makes it much more enjoyable.

Back to the Sony Vaio Z i7 for a moment, if there were only a way to run OS X apps in a virtual machine on it, I would want one. It is indeed a slick piece of hardware.
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OSX Server can be virtualised legally using parallels or VMware i believe. i have OSX server running on parallels on my imac.
 
After my experience with buying a vaio f at best buy, I'm not recommending either of them to anyone :(
 
linuxcooldude said:
Note, I did say "After I removed"
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While that may have helped, in my experience even after some malware are (successfully) removed, the damage had been done and the system may not be fully operational or run at full speed. It's best to just reinstall the system and start over. It may not be fair to compare the speed of a system that had so many malware removed to other systems.
 
solarein said:
While that may have helped, in my experience even after some malware are (successfully) removed, the damage had been done and the system may not be fully operational or run at full speed. It's best to just reinstall the system and start over. It may not be fair to compare the speed of a system that had so many malware removed to other systems.
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I agree that malware is a serious problem for Windows users. I have a desktop machine that I use only as a backup these days but my grandson still uses it frequently. As is the case with a lot of teenage users he does a lot of interactive stuff online and the machine got seriously infected. I found, though, that the program MS introduced last fall to clean discs of malware and to protect it going forward worked well.

Despite the introduction of MS's useful antimalware tool, you may be right that a clean install will lead to faster operations than repairing current installation produces. My experience, too, has been that clean installations seem to work best. Still, I hate to have to do it because of all the reconfiguration problems doing so creates.
 
I dunno what you guys do with those machines, but in practice I've never had a problem with either OS X or Windows. Particularly when MS tightened down security in Vista and 7, it's kinda hard to run that crap unless you click OK and Yes, install plugins.

Of course, if you type your admin password in every time that dialog pops up without thinking about it, you can screw OS X up too.

As of the moment, I still say avoid Sony products if you can. I dunno about the Z series since I haven't used one yet, but my F had problems that would piss a Mac user off hella fast.

(not to mention the defective power supplies that best buy refuses to do anything about)
 
JoeG4 said:
I dunno what you guys do with those machines, but in practice I've never had a problem with either OS X or Windows. Particularly when MS tightened down security in Vista and 7, it's kinda hard to run that crap unless you click OK and Yes, install plugins.

Of course, if you type your admin password in every time that dialog pops up without thinking about it, you can screw OS X up too.
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That's fair. In fact, I never had any trouble with malware on my PC, either, until my grandson started to use it. Still, I think it's also fair to acknowledge that Windows machines are far more susceptible to such problems than Macs are. I have run Macs for seven years and have never had an infection.
 
gwsat said:
I agree that malware is a serious problem for Windows users. I have a desktop machine that I use only as a backup these days but my grandson still uses it frequently. As is the case with a lot of teenage users he does a lot of interactive stuff online and the machine got seriously infected. I found, though, that the program MS introduced last fall to clean discs of malware and to protect it going forward worked well.

Despite the introduction of MS's useful antimalware tool, you may be right that a clean install will lead to faster operations than repairing current installation produces. My experience, too, has been that clean installations seem to work best. Still, I hate to have to do it because of all the reconfiguration problems doing so creates.
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Unfortunately there will always be a problem for malware for PCs. Like you said a lot of the time it's the user actually willfully installing the malware thinking it's something that helps them. For example there is the "fake infection" pop up windows that uses a browser window and normal html to make a user think they have an infection and you should download their software. Again this kind of malware which is the vast majority of them would easily infect any system.. linux, windows, osx.. etc as long as they are coded for them. The whole installation part is no different from any software that you would normally install.

Most malware removal programs are good enough now to prevent a full reinstall. I do have a ghosted copy of my original installtion with all my base utilities and programs for a quick reinstall if needed though.
 
ippikiokami said:
Unfortunately there will always be a problem for malware for PCs. Like you said a lot of the time it's the user actually willfully installing the malware thinking it's something that helps them. For example there is the "fake infection" pop up windows that uses a browser window and normal html to make a user think they have an infection and you should download their software. Again this kind of malware which is the vast majority of them would easily infect any system.. linux, windows, osx.. etc as long as they are coded for them. The whole installation part is no different from any software that you would normally install.

Most malware removal programs are good enough now to prevent a full reinstall. I do have a ghosted copy of my original installtion with all my base utilities and programs for a quick reinstall if needed though.
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I had a few worms on XP which required a reinstall but I've had no problems with vista or win7. I use kaspersky anti virus and firewall which works in the background and stops any problems it even blocks websites or pop ups which are known to install malware.

Does anyone know which parts of the vaio are made from carbon fibre?
 
gwsat said:
That's fair. In fact, I never had any trouble with malware on my PC, either, until my grandson started to use it. Still, I think it's also fair to acknowledge that Windows machines are far more susceptible to such problems than Macs are. I have run Macs for seven years and have never had an infection.
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Understood, I have been using OS X for 9 years now, and have never had an issue myself either.

Keeping safe in Windows is as simple as...

Running firefox or chrome with adblock. Shoot, even IE should be ok provided you take similar precautions. If you really want to be safe, then you put flash on a click-to-enable basis as well. This way you're only ever executing stuff you want to run, and not the occasional rogue flash ad.

You know what problem I usually have with Windows? The bootmgr or registry getting hosed in time. XD

I also have to agree that the quickest way to fix an infected machine is to backup, sanitize the backups, and do a nuke and repave of your hard drive.

The reason I withdrew my recommendation for Sony products lies in the power supply. Mine, and a few others on notebookreview have noticed that hard drive activity leads to the power supply switching and causing voltage spikes on the circuit (eg, causing the lights in your house to flicker).

That's with a Sony F series though. The Z series is a smaller machine. :)
 
In my city the sony store is right around the corner from the apple store, in the same shopping plaza. I wish windows 7 was of interest to me, because i would be very tempted to buy on of the z series i looked at. I loved all of the ports, the speedy processor, design, and especially the price.

There is only one little tiny problem, the computer runs windows 7, which looks and feels like a windows machine. For emails, word processing, exchange, etc, no problem. For anything creative for this consumer, it just looks boring.

When you go to the mac store, the machine is loaded with all kinds of software, not some stupid demo, that controls your whole experience. Many employees will even give you a quick lesson on the os or some software, to let you feel what your real life experience would be with the machine.

At the sony store, the z has an extremely basic software package, that wouldn't excite anybody, which makes me think that my pretty little computer would look better, than it feels to use.

If the z ran osx, i would buy it tomorrow. I like it better than the macbook pro -need the 30 days to be sure of that. However, without the os, and a good software package, I might as well buy a cheap net book.

I hope windows really improves, because the competition between companies that would come from it, would really benefit us consumers. And we surely wouldn't need a thread this long

BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE OPTIONS:eek:
 
Photoshop in Windows doesn't have the floating GUI the Mac version does, but I've heard that CS4 mac doesn't have the floating GUI either, so meh whatever.
 
cmanbrazil said:
In my city the sony store is right around the corner from the apple store, in the same shopping plaza. I wish windows 7 was of interest to me, because i would be very tempted to buy on of the z series i looked at. I loved all of the ports, the speedy processor, design, and especially the price.

There is only one little tiny problem, the computer runs windows 7, which looks and feels like a windows machine. For emails, word processing, exchange, etc, no problem. For anything creative for this consumer, it just looks boring.

When you go to the mac store, the machine is loaded with all kinds of software, not some stupid demo, that controls your whole experience. Many employees will even give you a quick lesson on the os or some software, to let you feel what your real life experience would be with the machine.

At the sony store, the z has an extremely basic software package, that wouldn't excite anybody, which makes me think that my pretty little computer would look better, than it feels to use.

If the z ran osx, i would buy it tomorrow. I like it better than the macbook pro -need the 30 days to be sure of that. However, without the os, and a good software package, I might as well buy a cheap net book.

I hope windows really improves, because the competition between companies that would come from it, would really benefit us consumers. And we surely wouldn't need a thread this long

BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE OPTIONS:eek:
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There is nothing really exciting about the extra software that comes with OS X for free. I am not sure which software you saw in the Apple store but most likely it was not free. So what's the benefit? You can buy similar or better software for Windows (the selection is much better than for OS X). As far as the basic software is concerned, you can pick up very good free software too (like Google's Picasa). I get it that your hope of Windows improving is a sarcasm. Or perhaps you know of something where OS X excels? Then you should tell about this all those stupid corporations that stubbornly prefer inferior OS (and even 10 year old version of it - XP) to the superior OS X :)
 
For some reason, probably age, my interest in Macs is not what it used to be. I'm not as interested in video, and doing weddings now is torture due to foot pain if I stand in one spot too long. What photo editing I still do I can bootcamp into windows for my favorite editing software or I can simply do it on the Z, which at this time is lighter and faster than my Macbook Pro, which is now serving as a desktop unit. Maybe I'm just in love with my new toy and the fact I can carry it anywhere without shoulder strap pain. Why not a Macbook Air? I wanted a built in DVD player and an i5 processor. Apple simply does not have such a thing at 3 lbs and though there is a possibility, I'm not looking for it in the next MBA/MBP versions. So far for my needs I am very happy. Besides, I can always fall back on my MBP for the occasional video edit.
 
After using Picasa, I don't think Apple should charge users for iPhoto. Seriously.
 
lilo777 said:
There is nothing really exciting about the extra software that comes with OS X for free. I am not sure which software you saw in the Apple store but most likely it was not free. So what's the benefit? You can buy similar or better software for Windows (the selection is much better than for OS X). As far as the basic software is concerned, you can pick up very good free software too (like Google's Picasa). I get it that your hope of Windows improving is a sarcasm. Or perhaps you know of something where OS X excels? Then you should tell about this all those stupid corporations that stubbornly prefer inferior OS (and even 10 year old version of it - XP) to the superior OS X :)
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I think he/she meant the iLife suite. I think it's bundled with new Macs, right? It may not be free but I suppose the bundling means that in stores the programs in the suite can be shown off as part of the system. The same can be said of Windows-based systems that include extra software though.
 
JoeG4 said:
Understood, I have been using OS X for 9 years now, and have never had an issue myself either.

Keeping safe in Windows is as simple as...

Running firefox or chrome with adblock. Shoot, even IE should be ok provided you take similar precautions. If you really want to be safe, then you put flash on a click-to-enable basis as well. This way you're only ever executing stuff you want to run, and not the occasional rogue flash ad.
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I agree that if one uses reasonable judgment it should be possible to avoid a Windows machine getting infected these days. Unfortunately, I did not give my grandson sufficient warning when he started to use my old XP desktop. Thus, God knows what he opened up that infected the machine. He is 16 years old and I was reminded of what an old mechanic told me many years ago. I had bought a used Austin Healey, which developed transmission troubles. The old mechanic asked me, "Did a kid used to drive it?" Sure enough, I bought it from the father of a teenager. When I confessed this, the mechanic after first saying how generally robust sports car transmissions are, added, "But you know a kid could tear up a cannonball." :)
 
Finally, it´s there and it´s one hell of a beauty. Thanks to the backlit keyboard there is really nothing more missing. The whole body is well built. The Display is simply amazing and a lot better than the one of my air. Great colors and crisp fonts. I was afraid that the resolution will make them unreadable but the sharpness even improves that. The only thing i noticed is the fan noise. In idle its noticable but not disturbing. With coolbook undervolting my air plus speedfan i was able to make my air dead silent. Since the Vaio packs such powerful components I realize this will not be possible and I think I will just have to get used to it. The battery pack wags a little and yah the handrest is made of plastic but the overall look and feel is much better than i thought it would be. Since I am not using any specific OSX Software I am good with W7.
 
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