B S Magnet
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I also wondered the same, in addition to which applications were “imported” from 10.6.8. Out with the marketing language, in with the literal: we don’t need the disneytalk. We just need clarity and transparency.
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I also wondered the same, in addition to which applications were “imported” from 10.6.8. Out with the marketing language, in with the literal: we don’t need the disneytalk. We just need clarity and transparency.
fra9000
macrumors member
I don't understand unconstructive behaviours of people on volunteer-based projects as this very one. @z970 has started and accomplished small, medium and large initiatives PPC community is benefitting from. He doesn't need to demonstrate or proove anything to anyone.
Therefore we should just appreciate his "Disney-talk" especially since usually they have been followed by great achievements like this one.
I believe this forum community does prefer collaborative and positive attitude over stupid threads-fights.
Therefore we should just appreciate his "Disney-talk" especially since usually they have been followed by great achievements like this one.
I believe this forum community does prefer collaborative and positive attitude over stupid threads-fights.
@Jack Neill 'Structured' as in certain applications will be moved to the Utilities folder, more accurately reflecting their locations in 10.6. As a side effect, this will also boost the performance of opening the Applications folder Dock shortcut in Grid View, as there are now less items to render.
@B S Magnet How about wait until the update is released? Nothing is final during development, which is why there are a lack of specifics at this time. You've gotten nothing but clarity and transparency in my publicly-available works so far, so I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why you still actively look for problems to point out even now.
And frankly, I wish people here used "disneytalk" more often in order to invoke more of the imagination rather than the overused literal, at least for a short period of time. Apple themselves understood this, and the need for a little bit of wonder / excitement in computing (details be damned).
Likewise, I find myself longing for the same thing in much of the entire industry. I wish more developers would introduce new concepts with proposals you can immediately connect with, and not just post some robotic changelog to comb through alongside a haphazard summary, and then call it a day. Therefore, I'm making the change I personally want to see.
@B S Magnet How about wait until the update is released? Nothing is final during development, which is why there are a lack of specifics at this time. You've gotten nothing but clarity and transparency in my publicly-available works so far, so I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why you still actively look for problems to point out even now.
And frankly, I wish people here used "disneytalk" more often in order to invoke more of the imagination rather than the overused literal, at least for a short period of time. Apple themselves understood this, and the need for a little bit of wonder / excitement in computing (details be damned).
Likewise, I find myself longing for the same thing in much of the entire industry. I wish more developers would introduce new concepts with proposals you can immediately connect with, and not just post some robotic changelog to comb through alongside a haphazard summary, and then call it a day. Therefore, I'm making the change I personally want to see.
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Tratkazir_the_1st
macrumors 65816
@Tratkazir_the_1st Migration Assistant, along with most everything else, has been fixed in Sorbet 1.4. A public release is coming soon.
Tratkazir_the_1st
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Amethyst1
macrumors G3
I wonder if editing
/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist to show, e.g. "10.5.9 v1.4" as version would be feasible without causing all kinds of havoc, apart from being ugly as heck that is.
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@Amethyst1 At that point, I would be more concerned with aesthetic authenticity rather than overall compatibility.
Still, perhaps there is a method to signify the image version in some other way ...
Still, perhaps there is a method to signify the image version in some other way ...
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
You could modify the build (in the same file). Stock 10.5.8 client is 9L31a (unless any subsequent security updates incremented it further), so maybe Sorbet could adopt a 9L31a1, 9L31a2, 9L31a3, ... scheme or something like that?
@Amethyst1 There's an idea. It might be risky for app compatibility, though; I'm unsure what relationship certain applications or libraries might have (if any) to the OS build they detect they're running on.
Amethyst1
macrumors G3
Good point. A better idea would be to place a file in the root of Sorbet’s partition/image, named
.version, which contains the version number as plain text. That wouldn’t mess up anything, and the leading dot would ensure the file would be hidden in Finder and thus not cause confusion or be accidentally deleted. And a simple cat /.version in Terminal would reveal the version.
Jack Neill
macrumors 68020
I changed mine back to 10.5.8, the .9 was bothering my OCD.
I come here to talk about Macs and Apple stuff. I am going to pause on viewing this thread for a while. It's getting tense in here...
I come here to talk about Macs and Apple stuff. I am going to pause on viewing this thread for a while. It's getting tense in here...
mortlocli
macrumors 6502a
..anyway just popped in to say..when using Sarfari on some web sites, Im sitting there waiting for it to get done..and then realize the web page is already loaded. Yeah - I know Im not that sharp...but it is pleasantly surprising.!!!
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Regarding browsing on Sorbet, I've noticed that too. I think it's a nice change of pace, and finally does these machines some justice (for once).
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macanalista
macrumors newbie
Good working z970! I'll try a Sorbet soon on a MDD 2003 and a powerbook.
I hope installation process could be fixed too (just a request).
Sorbet Leopard Development - Feature Showcase #6 (Bonus)
The about Command
Ever wanted a Terminal-friendly utility that could show you a brief (but highly accurate) overview of the system information, IRIX-style? Enter the about command. about displays the Mac OS X release name, OS version, build number, image revision, generation date, and kernel version.
Additionally, it displays the machine family, machine model, CPU type, CPU cores, CPU clock speed, bus clock speed, L1 (data + instruction) cache, L2 cache, and L3 cache (if present). Finally, it will also display the amount of installed RAM, as well as the average CPU usage over the past minute / 5 minutes / 15 minutes, and current swap status.
All information relayed is super exact, down to the singular byte and hertz units.
about will make its debut alongside Sorbet Leopard Rev. 1.4 on November 12.
The about Command
Ever wanted a Terminal-friendly utility that could show you a brief (but highly accurate) overview of the system information, IRIX-style? Enter the about command. about displays the Mac OS X release name, OS version, build number, image revision, generation date, and kernel version.
Additionally, it displays the machine family, machine model, CPU type, CPU cores, CPU clock speed, bus clock speed, L1 (data + instruction) cache, L2 cache, and L3 cache (if present). Finally, it will also display the amount of installed RAM, as well as the average CPU usage over the past minute / 5 minutes / 15 minutes, and current swap status.
All information relayed is super exact, down to the singular byte and hertz units.
about will make its debut alongside Sorbet Leopard Rev. 1.4 on November 12.
Dronecatcher
macrumors 603
@Dronecatcher Current speed, I believe. The maximum speed can be shown with sysctl hw.cpufrequency_max (in most cases, they are the same).
Dronecatcher
macrumors 603
@Dronecatcher My guess is that the system then switches to the minimum frequency (if supported), which can also be shown with sysctl hw.cpufrequency_min.