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Rodimus, maybe you'll point us to a more successful development strategy in the market today. Android's fragments and panels haven't led to us a successful tablet out in the market yet. If anything, it appears consumers aren't buying that you can just "scale up" phone apps for a tablet, or between phone screen sizes.

Pixel perfect alignment is required for a big category of apps we all use: games. Pixel perfect alignment is also required for many apps that use customer UIs.

And speaking of "any developer", have you written any apps yourself? Could you point us to the names and platforms?

Kudos for an excellent & very relevant post. As a professional cross platform engineer of many years, the number of users who think they're experts never ceases to amaze me
 
CoreGraphics is identical in respect to drawing on both platforms, which is why a lot of the documentation for Quartz is shared. I don't know what it is you are arguing about, apart from saying that the problem is in the API's provided by Apple, which it isn't.

I'm arguing that integer scaling factors are not required and that programmers solved the dilema ages ago, something the non-programmers insist would cause tremendous headaches if Apple decided to go with it.

No to mention all the people saying if the screen inches changes and the PPI is lower, every needs to redo their interfaces.

All ridiculous points and as it stands, you're supporting me.

I felt the need to reply to neko_girl because 3D games are especially well adapted to changing pixel resolutions, even on the iPhone (whereas normal view based apps are "pixel stuck" so to say), a concept that has been with OpenGL (and its sibling, OpenGL ES) since day 1. I think the 2nd chapter of my OpenGL Superbible, first edition (hello, the 90s called...), covers the viewport and having it resize itself dynamically for rendering to a resizable window.

Of course one may still support the idea that it makes sense to adapt the UI to a screen that is fundamentally larger, such as on iPad. I don't think that a "hypothetic" bump from 3.5" to 4" would however. But, this is really just a side note to this discussion that I felt like commenting on, nevermind.

This is precisely my own point.
 
Perhaps it would be popular. That's straight up conjecture. The proven fact, however, is that the two most popular phones in the world have 3.5" screens. The 3.5" as a screensize IS popular. Saying anything else is guessing.

That entire argument you made is also not valid because of the point divinox made.
The fact that you can only get iOS from Apple and Apple ONLY offers a 3.5 in phone really makes your argument argument worthless. If Apple offered multiple sizes you would have a point but Apple doesn't. Apple gets a lot of iPhone sells because it is APPLE no other reason.

Now since we can not get a fair judge on which screen sizes are the ones in demand uses Apple we toss out those sells and go look at platforms that offer multiple sizes and what do you know. The larger ones are the ones that sell more. That tells us volumes right there. 4" is the new normal and what people want. iPhone users by in large are settling for 3.5" screens to get iOS.

...which you cannot counter by that logic. The iPhone is popular. The iPhone has a 3.5" screen. We do not know whether 3.5" are popular. Correlation does not imply causation; people may very well buy iPhones in spite of it having a 3.5".
 
So should i get a iPhone 4S or wait for iPhone 5/6

If you're up for a full upgrade, go ahead and get the 4S. There will always be something in the pipeline, and you can wait forever and never own anything or you can get a 4S and be happy.
 
The smaller screen of the iPhone is the single biggest reason why we may never trade our larger screened Android smartphone in for an iPhone. I'm not sure than 4" would be enough. That is still smaller than that we already have.

The larger size of Androids is one of many reasons that we may never trade our iPhones in for an Android.
 
I'm willing to bet that most iPhone owners don't know the size of the iPhones screen.
I agree completely. That's why Apple can get by with anything. Retail customers have no clue and will buy anything with an Apple logo.

I give Apple a lot of credit for the way they control their customers reality.

Whatever Apple claims, the customers take it as fact.
 
I think Apple saved big screen for the next version because Siri along with other improvement is enough to sell the iphone 4S.
 
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The current screen is the correct size. If it was supposed to be bigger it would have started bigger.
 
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The current screen is the correct size. If it was supposed to be bigger it would have started bigger.

The current dpi is the correct dpi. If it was supposed to be higher it would have started highe... oh wait! See what i did there?
 
That entire argument you made is also not valid because of the point divinox made.
The fact that you can only get iOS from Apple and Apple ONLY offers a 3.5 in phone really makes your argument argument worthless. If Apple offered multiple sizes you would have a point but Apple doesn't.

Or he's simply using a different definition of the word "popular" than you and dvinox and KnightWRX want him to use. A definition that he was quite clear about.

Apple gets a lot of iPhone sells because it is APPLE no other reason.

If ever a sentence sums up your posts...

Now since we can not get a fair judge on which screen sizes are the ones in demand uses Apple we toss out those sells and go look at platforms that offer multiple sizes and what do you know. The larger ones are the ones that sell more. That tells us volumes right there. 4" is the new normal and what people want. iPhone users by in large are settling for 3.5" screens to get iOS.

Good one. I don't suppose you are adjusting for the difference in specs between the 3.5" Android phones and the larger ones. Or marketing dollars. What percentage of Android phone are sold with a screen size of 4" or bigger?
 
4" is the new normal and what people want. iPhone users by in large are settling for 3.5" screens to get iOS.

I personally like the 3.5" and laugh at my friends when they pull out this huge droid phone. I like something small enough to store in my front and pull out easily. If I need anything larger I just use my iPad.
 
highly doubt next iphone will have a 10mp or higher. I would think they would stick with 8 and if anything maybe add more features or upgrade the chip.
 
highly doubt next iphone will have a 10mp or higher. I would think they would stick with 8 and if anything maybe add more features or upgrade the chip.

I hope you're right. As an avid photog, I can tell you that adding MP generally only adds noise unless you increase the sensitivity of the sensor. The only thing it gives you of any real value is the ability get better crops. Admittedly though, this is a pretty handy feature with a fixed focal length of 35mm equiv 28mm (i.e. way too wide for a lot of shooting that i do). Still, the camera on the 4S is very very good already, and among the best in the industry. I'd rather apple focus on catching up in other areas, as well as innovating.

Incidentally, this is also why I'm not buying into the negative press about the galaxy nexus' 5MP shooter just yet. Wait for reviews to see the quality of a camera. Not all MP are created equal.
 
Sounds like everything I wanted on a phone! I'm up for an upgrade but I don't see the need to change my 3GS for a 4S.. I rather save my money wait for something really worth it like the 5. It'll be here before you know it :)
 
4" is the new normal and what people want.

You're making this claim as if it were a fact.. Meaning, 100% of people want that.. I sincerely hope that you do not ACTUALLY believe that. A foolish thing to do is speak your opinion and claim the world is backing you up on it.
 
I personally like the 3.5" and laugh at my friends when they pull out this huge droid phone. I like something small enough to store in my front and pull out easily. If I need anything larger I just use my iPad.


I could pull out my 4in Atrix 4g and guess what it is roughly the same size as the iPhone. It is a hair taller but not by much. It is roughly the same size.

Compare iPhone to the Galaxy S2 (AT&T) and guess what the S2 is not much larger in terms of size in any way than the iPhone. 4.5 I think is huge but 4-4.3 is not much larger when compare with the iPhone.
You're making this claim as if it were a fact.. Meaning, 100% of people want that.. I sincerely hope that you do not ACTUALLY believe that. A foolish thing to do is speak your opinion and claim the world is backing you up on it.

You are reading to much into it. It safe to say a majority want 4" or larger screen.
 
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