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iWant! Fix the battery life, and that's my dream iPhone right there!
I don't need a 10mp camera, but love the larger screen and overall design.
I'm personally not buying another iPhone unless it gets a bigger screen. Keep the same resolution, just make the pixels ever so slightly larger, I doubt it would look pixel-y since the current pixels are so crazy small already.
I don't need a 10mp camera, but love the larger screen and overall design.
I'm personally not buying another iPhone unless it gets a bigger screen. Keep the same resolution, just make the pixels ever so slightly larger, I doubt it would look pixel-y since the current pixels are so crazy small already.
I was hoping for this iPhone5 to be released last month. The 4S is very nice compared to the ancient 3G that I was caring but since I was eligible for an upgrade, I was hoping for a big leap. BTW, those apps don't necessarily need to be rewritten. Those with an iPad can hit that x2 option if they want those apps to be full screen. Besides, if you want to cash in on the app business you've got to keep up with the medium.
Wow, just read thru 9 pages of comments and one thing really stuck out at me: everyone is griping about the screen size not being whatever the poster considers 'optimal'. However, not 1 SINGLE post points out the fact that the original rumor DOES NOT STATE whether the 'iPhone 5' is 4G or not. This tells me some other things. Most of you out there really don't care whether or not the iPhone is 4G or not (which is ok, since 4G isn't everywhere). I remember everyone (or maybe the trolls) crowing about how the 4S wasn't 4G and that it'll fail cause its not 4G. Just seemed odd to me there is no griping about this rumor not having info about 4G or not.....
The 4S is my first iPhone. I had an EVO before this, and believe me, a 4+ inch screen is not optimal for me. It does not fit well in ones pocket. Even with a case on my iPhone, it fits well in my pocket. Yes, it does look better for movies and such, but at the cost of battery life. The only way a bigger screen will come to an iPhone is if apple can keep the same overall size of the iPhone with the case and all. And as for thinner? If people are griping about 4S battery life now, I don't see a thinner iPhone unless apple is working on some new battery technology. I was lucky to get 5hrs battery life with my EVO so when all the hullabaloo about battery life started cropping up, i didn't understand when i could get an 8hr work shift without charging my iPhone.
just my 2 cents....
The 4S is my first iPhone. I had an EVO before this, and believe me, a 4+ inch screen is not optimal for me. It does not fit well in ones pocket. Even with a case on my iPhone, it fits well in my pocket. Yes, it does look better for movies and such, but at the cost of battery life. The only way a bigger screen will come to an iPhone is if apple can keep the same overall size of the iPhone with the case and all. And as for thinner? If people are griping about 4S battery life now, I don't see a thinner iPhone unless apple is working on some new battery technology. I was lucky to get 5hrs battery life with my EVO so when all the hullabaloo about battery life started cropping up, i didn't understand when i could get an 8hr work shift without charging my iPhone.
just my 2 cents....
You missed my point completely. Every time someone has ever mentioned getting an iPhone vs. an Android device to me(any phone in general), not once has screen size been a deciding factory. I have a number of friends that switched from android devices(Galaxy S, and Droid X) and the deciding factor was the stability of iOS not screen size. When the first iPhone was released aside from the price, it was an instant hit 3.5" screen and all. I'm not saying people don't want a bigger screen, but what I am saying is that most people probably don't care because iOS is optimized for the iPhones screen size.
I have a 4″ Android phone. And yes it’s kinda nice, but after having it for a while I realized that for the things I use my “phone” for on a regular basis, the bigger screen makes no difference. Contacts, emails, IM’s, twitter, navigation,apps are the same if not better on a 3.5" screen.
The things I thought I would like a larger screen for, like games and video and internet, the screen is still way too small and frustrating. So I have to say I think Steve may be right for most people on this one.
But, I still think a rugged 6-7″ iOS device would make a great device to take over the iPod touch and personal assistant category as your “go-to” device for more many more things.
The things I thought I would like a larger screen for, like games and video and internet, the screen is still way too small and frustrating. So I have to say I think Steve may be right for most people on this one.
But, I still think a rugged 6-7″ iOS device would make a great device to take over the iPod touch and personal assistant category as your “go-to” device for more many more things.
Apple needs to consider tackling Samsung Galaxy Note with its tablet-like 5" screen. This will be a better offering for folks who want games and internet browsing as predominant features. They put a bad ass graphic card found in iPad 2 with the same battery as iPhone 4. Well, is it any surprise that battery life takes a hit. They just might increase the iPhone size in the next iteration to accommodate bigger battery to handles that graphic power.
Yeah, you have no idea how statistics work. It's cute to see you flailing your arms, though.
A lot of geeks will be upset. The public in general will say "AWESOME", then make it the best selling phone in history. Once again.
PCMag and CNET. Two mainstream sites, for sure.
Nope. Just not true.
Wow. Not a programmer, are you?
Very popular. Except for, you know, the #1 and #2 most popular phones in the world. But, uh, other than that, spot on.
You should look up the wiring spec on the dock connector. Then, assuming you understand what it means, come back here with your tail between your legs.
Well, actually I'm a programmer, that's why I've said that it's not that hard...
Hello all!
Let me toss a slightly different perspective in here. I develop mobile mapping applications for a specific segment of the engineering community using ESRI's ArcGIS Mobile technology. My customers are the guys that do field evaluations of high stress pavements like runways and bridge structures. We've been struggling over the past few years to find an ideal device to put into their hands that a. has the processing power to handle the mapping applications, b. is small enough to be carried & manipulated with one hand and fit into a pocket, c. has enough screen real estate and resolution to fully and accurately render the maps, d. has integrated GPS, wi-fi and 3G (or better) capabability and e. has an integrated 'high resolution' digital camera with flash. If it is a phone, great, but that's not one of the key requirements. These field engineers move fast when on site (you have to when you are dodging things like taxiing aircraft) and are often carrying other test equipment that simply can't be down-sized, so the ability to put all of this mapping capability into a pocket-sized device is critical.
My customer base has tested everything from laptops to netbooks, from Windows-based tablets to iPads, from dedicated field data collection units like the Trimble Yuma to the iPhone. All were found wanting in one form or fashion. The near winner however was the iPhone 4. They loved the screen resolution of the retina display and the device is a well integrated business tool. The fact that they can manipulate it with one hand is a huge plus. However, they all complained about screen real estate. As good as the iPhone 4 display is, it simply isn't big enough to display all the data the field engineers want to see in one shot without having to pan or zoom.
A few weeks back, on a whim, I picked up a new Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. We were able to port some of our map applications over to Android and I let a few of our engineers test this new device size. They really like the increased screen size. We are now looking at porting everything over to the Android platform so they can make use of some of the larger screens available on Android mobile phones.
I hate moving away from the iOS platform but my customers dictate what they need, not Apple. My opinion is that there IS a serious business demand for more screen real estate. I think if Apple came out with an iPhone with a 5" retina display that could take a serious bite out of the market share being occupied by the larger Android phones or even the small tablet formats.
Let me toss a slightly different perspective in here. I develop mobile mapping applications for a specific segment of the engineering community using ESRI's ArcGIS Mobile technology. My customers are the guys that do field evaluations of high stress pavements like runways and bridge structures. We've been struggling over the past few years to find an ideal device to put into their hands that a. has the processing power to handle the mapping applications, b. is small enough to be carried & manipulated with one hand and fit into a pocket, c. has enough screen real estate and resolution to fully and accurately render the maps, d. has integrated GPS, wi-fi and 3G (or better) capabability and e. has an integrated 'high resolution' digital camera with flash. If it is a phone, great, but that's not one of the key requirements. These field engineers move fast when on site (you have to when you are dodging things like taxiing aircraft) and are often carrying other test equipment that simply can't be down-sized, so the ability to put all of this mapping capability into a pocket-sized device is critical.
My customer base has tested everything from laptops to netbooks, from Windows-based tablets to iPads, from dedicated field data collection units like the Trimble Yuma to the iPhone. All were found wanting in one form or fashion. The near winner however was the iPhone 4. They loved the screen resolution of the retina display and the device is a well integrated business tool. The fact that they can manipulate it with one hand is a huge plus. However, they all complained about screen real estate. As good as the iPhone 4 display is, it simply isn't big enough to display all the data the field engineers want to see in one shot without having to pan or zoom.
A few weeks back, on a whim, I picked up a new Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. We were able to port some of our map applications over to Android and I let a few of our engineers test this new device size. They really like the increased screen size. We are now looking at porting everything over to the Android platform so they can make use of some of the larger screens available on Android mobile phones.
I hate moving away from the iOS platform but my customers dictate what they need, not Apple. My opinion is that there IS a serious business demand for more screen real estate. I think if Apple came out with an iPhone with a 5" retina display that could take a serious bite out of the market share being occupied by the larger Android phones or even the small tablet formats.
Screen size
Since it's all speculations, here is mine:
The screen size will remain 3.5" for iPhone Classic.
There will be also a 4.5" model iPhone Grande.
There will be no "fragmentation" - the resolution won't change, but pixels will get larger. Just like you can currently view the same 1280x800 resolution content on 13", 15" or 17" MacBook.
Pixel density is not as important on a phone as on a PC used for graphics or video production. In fact large pixels will make phone more usable - your phone soft keyboard will scale up and buttons will be bigger.
Since it's all speculations, here is mine:
The screen size will remain 3.5" for iPhone Classic.
There will be also a 4.5" model iPhone Grande.
There will be no "fragmentation" - the resolution won't change, but pixels will get larger. Just like you can currently view the same 1280x800 resolution content on 13", 15" or 17" MacBook.
Pixel density is not as important on a phone as on a PC used for graphics or video production. In fact large pixels will make phone more usable - your phone soft keyboard will scale up and buttons will be bigger.
I actually agree with you. The WP7 from pure UI and multitouch interaction stand point is a better mobile OS. The iOS cartoon style UI is dated.
I agree. Historically, the automobile battery is instructive in corporate self interest/greed affecting the lack of technological advancement. Think about it, even though auto manufacturers have ALWAYS had the ability to switch off headlights as soon as a key is removed, they have resisted such simplicity merely to sell more batteries, that must be replaced/charged when they are drained, because of headlamps that are unintentionally left "on" when the vehicle is exited. With that in mind, why would the iPhone be made indestructible? If it's current form can guarantee profits from the sale of expensive (albeit ugly!) cases and insurance policies, what is the interest of selling a durable form function? Perhaps if, and only if, the company were to attract a "milspec" military contract that would mandate such durability, we may see a change. At the end of the day though, that's not what Steve Jobs created Apple to be... beauty is by design, a bit fragile. Then again, maybe I'm just one of the crazies...
Is that a pun on the replacement CEO's name?
My car's headlights are controlled by the key - key off, lights off. Key on, lights on.
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When I had an old car and un-intentionally left the lights on and my battery drained, I just jump started it or put a charger on it and recharged the battery. When battery drains, recharge it unless it is at the end of it's life cycle. Why buy a new one?
I fully expect all of the carriers to grant IMMEDIATE eligiability to all 4S owners when iPhone 5 comes out. There should never, ever, ever be a detriment to owning the latest and greatest. Gotta have EVERY iteration.
(sadly, I'm completely serious)
(sadly, I'm completely serious)
First of all, the "cannibalizing" comment you make is not one to attribute to Steve Jobs; as it is widely known "folk wisdom" throughout the SV, though not nearly as widely practiced! (As seen in this Daily Beast article published after his death.)
Sidebar: While it may ultimately be to your best interest to make obsolete one of your most profitable products - with the introduction of another product that has an unknown future - it is the hallmark of the risk-taking genius of Steve Jobs!
While all of this said about cannibalizing is true, it doesn't apply in any way to Apple's intended relationship between the iPhone and iPad product lines. We see it taking place throughout their other platforms: the planned phasing out of the Mac Pro line & the rise of the MacBook Air (coupled with Cloud computing) may further eat into the MacBook Pro line, etc.
My point was that (currently) Apple was attempting to differentiate the iPhone & iPad product lines. In that vein, it may resist the tendency to further increase the screen size of the iPhone to avoid eating into the iPad market share. (Note: With the coming Apple "assault" on the television set market, it's a safe bet that one/both of iPhone/iPad will be enabled to interface with the TV set.)
With what we know about Steve Jobs and Apple, whenever possible, any cannibalizing within the company will be the result of very careful planning on the part of Apple... Genius!
Bigger Screen
The smaller screen of the iPhone is the single biggest reason why we may never trade our larger screened Android smartphone in for an iPhone. I'm not sure than 4" would be enough. That is still smaller than that we already have.
The smaller screen of the iPhone is the single biggest reason why we may never trade our larger screened Android smartphone in for an iPhone. I'm not sure than 4" would be enough. That is still smaller than that we already have.