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The thing is that most people upgrading are not paying $650 bucks. If you are the head of the account than you can likely upgrade for $199 and if you are not then you can upgrade early for $400. We sold 4 iPhone 4's a few weeks back for $400 each so worse case you are breaking even and I actually made $200 on the upgrade. Done it every year and I have always made money.

1. I think most would be considering the 32GB or higher and that lists for $649. For me and many others the 16GB is way too small.

2. Mine and many others' full discounts don't roll around until mid-Feb, so it'll be subs price plus $250. That makes even a partial discounted 32GB phone $549 and a 16GB $449 + TAX, NOT $400.
 
As for all the 'not worth spending x for y speed increase responses: the iPhone 4S provides other benefits aside from simply improved speed. A far superior camera, for example, is worth something to many people. More storage is worth something to many people. And also note that selling the previous iPhone offsets much of the cost associated with an iPhone upgrade, so it becomes an easier decision. Siri may be a valuable add-on for many people.

It all depends on the individual person and what they want, though.

Only major difference I saw was browser speed
Yeah, but that's one of the areas where I was most interested in speed increases. They should have also tested some of the areas where there are slowdown in the OS, such as when browsing the App Store.
 
I am IN LOVE with my new 4S! It is undeniably faster. MUCH, MUCH faster. Siri is a ******* hoot! Loves her!!!

And the fact that I went from a black phone to a white phone, plus iOS 5 (somehow I was able to resist upgrading to iOS 5 on Wednesday!), totally makes this phone feel like a totally brand new experience.
 
That's obvious. iPhone 4 is no slouch in terms of processor speed. Bring on GRAPHICS performance!

Side by side comparison of:
Infinity blade, Dark Meadow, Shadowgun, NBA 2k12, etc
 
The 4S does what it suppose to do. :D

The cuts between takes worries me a bit, but only a tiny bit. If this were a comparison between the 4S and and Android phone, the cuts would render this comparison useless.
 
It may only be half a second faster, but it adds up.

yup, especially when you're navigating through a bunch of menus trying to show someone something, these tiny seconds add up to a faster experience. I'm excited. :)
 
Not a great demo...

Opening an App has more to do with the I/O speed of the onboard flash than it does of the processor. The only really interesting comparison was the web browser and the 4S was noticeably faster.
 
The benefit of dual-cores is multitasking.


I want to see someone open a ton of apps on their iPhone (without closing any) and then try to do something and THEN see how long it takes to do it.


Ex. Open up Facebook, Twitter, Safari, Play Music, open Youtube, etc... open the same # of apps on the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S at the same time and then go back into Safari and surf the web and compare speeds that way.


I bet in those tests, the 4S would blow the iPhone 4 out of the water.
 
The speed increase is minimal over the iphone 4. You don't market a phone based on half a second of increased performance even if you account for all the time it'll save in the long run--- that's not an ad campaign, that's a technical detail. This phone will be the most substantial to users who don't own an iPhone 4, not people who are upgrading from an iPhone 4... at least for now.

Like others said, when apps are made that will specifically take advantage of the new hardware, then the difference may really become obvious- be it in apps or games.
 
2x?

Not a major deal, but it does appear to be roughly twice as fast as the 4. When the 4 is already quite snappy, twice-as-fast doesn't seem like a lot. Certainly better than my soon-2-B-4-sale 3GS. :)
 
I'm impressed, since most things are done in nano seconds in the computer world, there are a lot of nano seconds shaved off from everyday use.
 
The added boost in horsepower is great, but what about the screen? The apps that will really take advantage of the speed improvement are games and graphically intense apps, but they're confined to that 3.5 inch screen. The way i see it, if you're on a 3g iphone, the 4s will really benefit you. If you don't have a smartphone and need one now, get the 4s. If you're an iphone 4owner (especially with an ipad 2 as well) skip the upgrade, it's just not worth it. I'm almost positive iphone 5 will have the increased screen size we all want, maybe even with 3d capability. The 4s was a very smart and strategic business decision for apple. They saw the potential to draw in 3g users whose contracts were nearing expiration, they saw the demand in new overseas markets, etc etc, and they could do it all without having to do a major retooling or production modification.
 
A friend of mine made a valid point to me in a Facebook chat tonight:

"In all the fuss over Siri, people are forgetting a little about being able to have text messages via voice. While Siri in it's entirity may, or may not, be too much for the iPhone 4, surely the simple option of pressing a mic button on the Messages app keyboard and speaking a text message wouldn't have been too taxing? Android phones can do voice-to-text SMS, so it's slick enough on models older than the iPhone 4".
 
I'd say not a big of a jump as iPhone 3G to 3GS. Snappier sure, but the real usage isn't that big

Could it be due to apps not taking advantage of dual core?
 
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