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Spotify Announces 75M Active Users, Raises $526M Following Apple Music Debut

What I want to know is how much data will streaming music eat up?

If Apple would've somehow (working with the wireless providers) made sure that streaming music won't affect your overall data, then I would be willing to pay $20 per month for it
 
I wonder how many people Spotify is going to lose for 3 months when Apple Music comes out, I know I for one will unsubscribe from Spotify for 3 months, save $30 and see if I miss it see if I like Apple Music better, they should be scared.
 
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patent10021 said:
With almost 1 billion people (and counting) using Apple devices I think it will be quite soon.
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There are already multiple billions of people who have access to Spotify right now. Spotify is available on iOS, Android, Windows, Mac and the Web. That's a huge potential market.

Yet Spotify only has 20 million paid customers... and 55 million free users. That's kind of a low percentage, isn't it?

So will 1 billion Apple users give Apple Music 100 million users? I don't think we can predict that.

I've been questioning how big the streaming market is in general. There are obviously lots of people and devices on Earth... but that doesn't mean they'll sign up for your service (or pay for it!)
 
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Michael Scrip said:
There are already multiple billions of people who have access to Spotify right now. Spotify is available on iOS, Android, Windows, Mac and the Web. That's a huge potential market.

Yet Spotify only has 20 million paid customers... and 55 million free users. That's kind of a low percentage, isn't it?

So will 1 billion Apple users give Apple Music 100 million users? I don't think we can predict that.

I've been questioning how big the streaming market is in general. There are obviously lots of people and devices on Earth... but that doesn't mean they'll sign up for your service (or pay for it!)
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There are some critical differences here though. Even-though Spotify is available on Android, iOS and Windows Phone (the Windows Phone app is still rather bad..) as well as in your browser, desktop, various other devices etc.. Apple has one big advantage, their solution will be on every single iOS device upgraded to iOS 8.4 and beyond.

You don't need to know about Apple Music beforehand, you don't need to head over to the AppStore, search for Spotify, install it, create your account to get everything going. Most of Apple's iOS users already got their Apple ID with their credit card ready to go. All they need to do is hit the "Music" button and I bet the first thing you will be seeing is a "Hey! Would you like to try our awesome unlimited Apple Music service? It's free for three months!" and all you need to do is to push the button, verify with your Apple ID password or use Touch ID and you are good to go.

I'm certain that the "Tips" application and various things in the new "pro-active" Siri search when you swipe to the leftmost home page in iOS 9 will have links to Apple Music all over it, so it will be pretty much impossible to ignore it.


The thing is, Spotify is far from being equally accessible at least on iOS devices. And you also have to remember, quite a few people still use iTunes for Music. They might not purchase that many songs or albums any more but tons of people still have a large library of music in iTunes already that they keep accessing. I guess the new Apple Music desktop application is going to replace iTunes all-together and even those who do not update will most likely see references to Apple Music all over the iTunes Store within iTunes. And again, all these people already have their Apple ID logged in, registered with their credit card ready to roll.


Not to mention.. They offer a freaking three months free trial. THREE MONTHS... I bet a bunch of existing Spotify users, even users that don't plan on leaving Spotify will be tempted to simply pause their subscription and try Apple Music for three months and there's a big chance that they won't be going back as long as Apple is able to deliver a good application, a good service and a large library of music.
 
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In Sweden where I live, spotify is huge. The company I work for has invested alot of money in Spotify and is now a partner (Teliasonera). For 5 years now we have been offering our costumers free spotify premium for 6-12 months if they sign up for a 24 months plan. We also offer a family plan for up to 5 family members for 199 kr (about 22$). Many people here have alot of playlists on spotify that will be hard to leave and do all over again.
Me myself find apples family plan interesting, but there is one caveat. And that is that I have to use family sharing. One credit card for all. I refuse to do that, with spotify I dont have to do that.
 
I'll probably get shunned to hell for this, but IDGAF...
I wonder if Apple Music would allow me to upload my own tracks to my own playlists like I can do with Spotify (and have access to those tracks on all of my devices for the subscription fee). Whether that be something I personally recorded or something I ripped from another media form, I can do that easily with what I've been using.

If Apple Music can provide what I'm already getting from Spotify AND some, then I might consider. Then again, just because my phone and laptop have an Apple logo doesn't exactly mean I need to take part in their music service.
 
a.gomez said:
meh,... remember when Ping was going to kill facebook. Maps was game over for google... iAd was the end of Google ads. ITunes radio? was going to kill Pandora. iCloud, so much for dropbox. iBooks, so long Kindle... Right? not really.

In the end nothing happened - hell some of those Apple services are now in the mud. Apple services are hit and miss.
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Is it just me?

I don't remember anyone saying any of these things!

I remember massive uproar against Google Maps being removed.

I remember people saying iAds were more engaging than Google ads.

I remember people highlighting how iCloud was a syncing service and Dropbox was a cloud storage service and people wishing Apple had just bought dropbox.

I remember people saying iBooks looked like a good platform for things like education, but they preferred that Kindle was platform agnostic.

Is it just me?
 
mdriftmeyer said:
Amazon is not profitable. They have a -0.22 Net Profit margin.
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On average over the past 5 years they've had a 0.70% net quarterly profit margin. Amazon almost always has a razor thin profit margin - it's how they run their business. They've had profit margins as high as 13.5% (in 2004) but generally are less than 4% and recently <1%. They're a solid company but not one like Apple who pushes for high profit margins (average quarterly at 23% over the past 5 years). Each has a different approach to business.
 
vicsara said:
apple is not late, apple is on right place at right time. they did not buy Beat for their Headphones lol..... they envision it.

yes not all music on iTunes will be available for stream and it should be that way.... group like Beatles and pink floyd and other legends should be respected. Spotify do not have Pink Floyd... search it spotifier........
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What? Respect a band by not allowing streaming. What are u smoking. You hear the strangest things here
 
People tend to like the underdog and originator so Spotify will continue to lead.
 
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