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I agree... The free tier is the most compelling aspect for Spotify, yet the family plan Apple offer is great as well.

We are all here discussing Apple Music, but it's not even out yet to be judged appropriately lol

I'll be using it for sure. I wish you can "turn off" all the other stuff in the app and just use the My Music portion of it. But I guess Apple has incentive for having For You, B1, and Radio staring you in the face every time you open the app.
 
Yes, competition is good. It will push Spotify and Apple to bring the best for both ends: Listeners and the Artist.
Apple is great at simplifying the user experience. And I must say, being both a Spotify and Apple Radio member, I like what i saw.

The 24/7 Radio is a great way to discover new music ! I hope they also cover underground artists.

Connect is another advantage Apple has over Spotify. (it will keep the Fan and Artist close to each other, creating a unique experience and connection).

$10/month is reasonable, especially if you discover great content.

The big advantage Apple has is they now have the Streaming and the buying experience.
 
Sounds like Netscape PR soon after Microsoft decided to compete by embedding IE in the Windows OS. Embedded & free with every device is a very challenging competitor.

Does this mean that regulators should go after Apple, like they did go after Microsoft?

I am really happy with Google Music, but will try Apple Music, too :)
 
Not true..... apple made it possible that everyone can afford apple products.
iphone for 99 cents, ipod for $79 or even $49 gorgeous macbook for 1k. and mind you it cost to make something beautiful like apple products.

I still have 2001 powerbook in white and 2003 silver powerbook and they still runs and looks new.......
Affordable?
I guess those at the food banks & welfare office think so...
 
Does this mean that regulators should go after Apple, like they did go after Microsoft?

It's not embedded yet. So who knows? Microsoft's actions basically slaughtered Netscape. The legal forces might wait to see if Apple's actions similarly slaughter established competitors.

And regulators are already looking into a related topic in which they are trying to confirm if Apple tried to persuade the labels to effectively kill the free subscription options from Spotify, etc to prop up the appeal of Apple's new offering. 2 state and 2 federal governments are already in play. See: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/04/apple-urging-music-labels-ditch-free-spotify/
 
Being able to stream the WHOLE Itunes library already is great, but there are inherent flaws to iTunes: it's a desktop software, it's very slow to load both pages and songs and the interface is nowhere near as practical and efficient as Spotify.

Curious to try it though.

And Pandora still exists? Who uses this crap website with a very limited and crappy list of songs that you can't even chose or use outside of the US? This website needs to die already.
 
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Pandora is just a crap nothing more I tried it the day it was introduced and tried recently but did not like it. at the moment Spotify is no 1 and will remain for good time, until apple comet for some discount program like student or something. Applaud to spotify's extreme quality and the way it finds the other songs or album playing but i hate the UI in my iPhone 6 plus as i hate back back and back and tap tap tap on top left corner........

i agree that pandora sucks. I'm not even really sure how it competes and is still around. Although I have concerns about Spotify as well. Something tells me that if you already have 75 million subscribers and you're still not turning a profit, you're not in such a good business.

I know the "pandora sucks" statement is subjective and I'm sure many people agree.

I know for me and my wife, we still prefer Pandora when it comes to "radio" listening (station of music based off an artist we input). Spotify still lacks in this area for me. I will actually use iHeartRadio for "radio" over Spotify as well. But Pandora still has a place for us in our music listening rotation. But we only pay for 1 sub to Pandora and share logins. We pay for Family Spotify Premium and will give Apple Music a try when it goes live.
 
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I know I read somewhere the device limit is 6, I understand on the website it says 6 family users... Which as you say it will be under their Apple ID's.

But I doubt they will allow more devices under each family user Apple ID. That would be ridiculous cheap. I think Apple would be strict with having those Apple ID's under one device and not spread out among many devices.

I doubt they won't allow it. If they don't allow multiple devices per Apple-ID I can't listen on my iPhone, Mac and/or iPad. What could happen is that only 1 device per user can play concurrently, which comes down to 6 users per family. + seeing as it requires family sharing and the ID is also used for contacts, photos and what not, you won't just 'lend' your ID to others. Who knows maybe you will be allowed to use multiple devices at the same time per Apple-ID?
 
I'll be using it for sure. I wish you can "turn off" all the other stuff in the app and just use the My Music portion of it. But I guess Apple has incentive for having For You, B1, and Radio staring you in the face every time you open the app.
That's why they don't offer for you to do that because they know you would turn it off. Turn the power on. :D
 
I don't know. I think there is a high chance that Apple will have more paying subscribers than Spotify because Apple is embedding Music into iOS9 where Spotify must depend on people downloading their App and not enjoying certain benefits of OS integration. That is just IE vs. Netscape again. IE won more users not because it was superior to Netscape but because it was the default. Apple Maps won more users not because it was better than Google Maps but because Apple made it the default and embedded in into the OS.

Frankly, why does this even matter? It's like we're trying to prop up the appeal of Apple's offering because it is likely to be more profitable than Spotify's model. Who cares? Why is maximizing Apple's profitability good for us consumers? If this completely fails, Apple will still be fine. Or even if you own some shares of AAPL, the amount of profit made on this streaming music service is probably going to barely contribute to a dividend or the share value. And if you are a pure consumer (holding no AAPL), why is this so important?

Spotify will be fine. They are NOT a public company so maximizing short-term profitability is not their driving objective (unlike Apple). They want to build up a massive user base to do a Facebook when they IPO. Their "shareholders" (owners) are riding a regularly unprofitable business with multiple billion dollar valuations. They will eventually IPO and make a fortune. Their "shareholders" will be far more enriched than us AAPL shareholders can be enriched even if this music service succeeds beyond anyone's wildest expectations.

If Apple wins more paying subscribers than Spotify, good for Apple. If Spotify wins more paying subscribers than Apple during this period, good for Spotify. What's good for us customers is having more than one option for this kind of service, with prices ranging from $10/month all the way down to ad-supported free. We (consumers) win with choices and varied pricing including free options.

I think what you meant was you hope Spotify, Pandora etc go belly up so that Apple controls the entire music industry. Maybe Tim, Phil, Eddie, Angela and company could start a band. What could possibly beat Apple Executives on Apple Radio? :D:D:D[/QUOTE]
 
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Speaking of Amazon, I wonder if they will also try to get into the streaming "space"... they seem to want to compete, service-for-service, when it comes to media consumption.
Amazon has Prime Stations, and Echo also has a wide variety of streaming services integrated into it, such as Pandora and iHeartRadio. For me, Pandora integration with the Echo has been absolutely fantastic since it makes Pandora even easier to use, if that were possible.
I know the "pandora sucks" statement is subjective and I'm sure many people agree.

I know for me and my wife, we still prefer Pandora when it comes to "radio" listening (station of music based off an artist we input). Spotify still lacks in this area for me. I will actually use iHeartRadio for "radio" over Spotify as well. But Pandora still has a place for us in our music listening rotation. But we only pay for 1 sub to Pandora and share logins. We pay for Family Spotify Premium and will give Apple Music a try when it goes live.
I don't quite understand the hate Pandora gets (beyond the whole starving artists argument). It's no fuss to use at all, not to mention lightweight and "just works".
 
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yes not all music on iTunes will be available for stream and it should be that way.... group like Beatles and pink floyd and other legends should be respected. Spotify do not have Pink Floyd... search it spotifier........
Correct. Spotify does not have Pink Floyd.
 

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I think what you meant was you hope Spotify, Pandora etc go belly up so that Apple controls the entire music industry. Maybe Tim, Phil, Eddie, Angela and company could start a band. What could possibly beat Apple Executives on Apple Radio? :D:D:D

That's right. In fact, why don't all business except Apple be shut down? Why don't we raid the treasury and Fort Knox and just give Apple all of the money, maybe go wage world war if necessary to try to force all other countries to do the same. Then, as we starve to death, the last one of us still alive can come on here for one final post: "Mission Accomplished!" All hail the Apple.

;)
 
I agree... The free tier is the most compelling aspect for Spotify, yet the family plan Apple offer is great as well.

We are all here discussing Apple Music, but it's not even out yet to be judged appropriately lol


Well I like free but i want quality first. in streaming service will not let you listen the song you are dying to listen at that moment of time. I like free but can listen to crappy audio quality and everyone knows you will have to pay for it. I love and love and love spotify extreme audio quality it is so crisp and blow your mind. I drive Acura which has the most innovative Audio system, if any one one drive Acura ( I am sure many of you do )

search 2 artist Blue man Group and Queen live at Wembley. it will make sense that quality matters not freebies.

In any way if I want, I can have Spotify free for years, the only thing I have to do that make one free email acc a month and sign up 30 day premium spotify ...... ha ha ha. I have done this for 2 years......
 
Unless Apple support Sonos, or more correctly Sonos supports Apple Music I'll be staying with Spotify.
 
Let's see, Launch on june 30th.... punches numbers into calculator... I'd say Thursday, Friday at the latest.

Since a ton of ios and android users will take advantage of the free 3 months, breaking 100M users will be a piece of cake...wonder if Apple will report how many users they have after the promo expires for the initial wave of sign ups.
 
Interesting, I never knew that.

The last article I read said something like this:

In 2014 Spotify brought in $1.2 billion.... but they spent out $1.4 billion.

Clearly they have no problem generating revenue... but profit isn't happening. They are spending more than they make.

And here's the bigger problem: adding more users isn't helping.

Spotify's biggest expense is the music itself... in the form of licensing.

So... the more people who listen... the more it actually costs Spotify.

They definitely have a problem with scaling.

Sure... they have 20 million paying customers... but how many of those jumped on the 3 months for 99 cents deal?

Basically... there are users who are only paying 33 cents per month... but who are listening to the same music that costs Spotify a ton of money. The hope is that they'll become $10 a month customers... but that's not guaranteed.

They might decide to become free customers instead.

But Spotify's 55 million free customers clearly aren't paying the bills either.

Ouch.

And Spotify had these problems long before another high-profile music service was announced.

What a mess.
 
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