Well, I don’t remember the last time the Spotify app sent me a random notification to subscribe or try a new album like Apple Music does, so I’ll go out on a limb and say they aren’t allowed to do that.
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Spotify Calls Apple's App Store Restrictions 'An Abusive Power Grab'
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I don't understand the rage, can I sell my product at Amazon.com with out paying a cut to Amazon ? how about Amazon basics, are amazon basics products is same category as Spotify ? amazon basics don't have to pay a cut to Amazon, but other sellers should pay a cut.
should Walmart allow me to sell my products in Walmart store ? if they don't then it is abusive/monopoly behavior ?
should Walmart allow me to sell my products in Walmart store ? if they don't then it is abusive/monopoly behavior ?
There’s an even more simple solution, sell your subscriptions on your own site and pay Apple nothing. You can distribute your app, which people can use to access those subscriptions for free through the App Store!
MSFT was actively sabotaging the software down to the programming language. Its not even remotely the same. Also MSFT had a nearly 100% PC market share when they were sued. Spotify had no problem paying their fair share as long as there was no competition. Apple is not predatorily pricing its product. They charge 9.99 just like Spotify charges 9.99. Whats criminal is that Spotify pays artists half as much money per stream yet has twice as many users. 🤔 why should Apple subsidize Spotifys bad business decisions when Spotify can shut off the free tier and be profitable overnight. 🤷🏾♂️Crack a history book... MS nearly got broken up and had federal regulators in house for years supervising some of their activities. Much like Apple today, Microsoft was trying to make it so only their approved software would work with Windows. They refused access to APIs and of course the whole IE farce that the EU had a field day with.
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This is what Netflix does. People are still using it. 🤷🏾♂️
Wait, what? Apple loses $3.00 but gains $9.00, so $6.00/mo more profit. What you’re saying doesn’t even remotely make sense.
No they dont. Web apps by default arent going to be as performant as native apps. Thats a technical limitation that extists on all platforms. Web apps arent compiled in the traditional sense and therefore are simply not going to perform like a native app.
Yeah my sister has it this way under my account. I want her to switch it to netflix the website.
I’ll go with you on this ride for a moment.
While it may not be as fast as a native app, the current Xbox Cloud Gaming web app that released yesterday is quite good. I’m actually impressed with what they accomplished after Apple decided that game streaming wasn’t allowed on the App Store.
Edit: But why is it that Apple has decided to prevent game streaming as a native app? Perhaps because it competes with Apple Arcade?
Cute story, but Spotify didn’t create music streaming.
Also innovation doesn’t mean creating something new (that’s invention) it means to make something better.
They are price competetive. Spotify has free streaming tier Apple charges 9.99 no matter what. Apple charges the same amount Spotify does on its website and not a penny less. Users can subscribe though the website. Thats what people on Netflix do. They are doing just fine. The Netflix model is the way to go. No need for litigation.
The SCOTUS may want to settle the issue but the implications if they ruled in favor of Spotify are over broad.
IMO, SCOTUS would likely rule in Apples favor by like a 7-2 or 9-0 like margin. If the SCOTUS ruled against Apple they would lay out the rules for what is legal and Apple would switch to that. I just dont see the appetite for that from the SCOTUS as there are too many landmines to consider.
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I didn’t say Spotify invented music streaming, I said they created a streaming service. Innovation means something better? well to me Apple Music is not better than Spotify. They are both the same. I don’t see innovation, they both provide music.
Apple just wishes they had come up with Apple Music and Apple TV+ much earlier so they could block Netflix and Spotify the way they are blocking Microsoft’s xCloud now that they have Apple Arcade. They would say some ******** of having to approve Netflix content in the AppStore.
That’s a market in the same way Mc Donald’s restaurant burger distribution is. Meaning it isn’t.
I love all of the fanbois who bitch and moan that Spotify doesn't pay enough to "artists," yet have no problem with Apple taking 30% of Spotify's revenue (so they can't pay more royalties) while Apple pays only one red cent per 1000 streams of at least 50% length.
(And instead of arguing my overall point, I'll be just as nickeled and dimed over the distinctions of my argument. Predicted.)
(And instead of arguing my overall point, I'll be just as nickeled and dimed over the distinctions of my argument. Predicted.)
Actually, monopolies are not illegal, just regulated when they get too big for a government's britches, for a myriad of reasons.
Except if you want a hamburger you have limitless restaurants. If you want an iOS app, you have one store.
Would that apply to podcasts that Apple created a platform for 5 years before Spotify existed, but is now copying?
Spotify was not even close to the first streaming service either. They are also partially owned by the major labels. So, their complaints are dubious at best. As far as tile, they make a product that people are dying for something better. First to market does not mean you get to lay down. Also, when your Product is dependent on another company’s platform for your success, that is your problem.
If you want smartphone apps you have at least android as an alternative. If you buy an iPhone you know you have to get your apps from the app store. Been that way for more than a decade.
The analogy with McDonalds is somewhat accurate. You don’t get to walk into a Burger King and order a Big Mac, unless you’re Chuck Norris.
They’ve already stated that they will allow it as long as each title is submitted to Apple individually for review.…just like traditional apps. You can’t cry “not fair” and “arbitrary“ on one hand and then ask for special treatment on the other.
So ask yourself this, if Apple has less paying subscribers (half) and pays more per stream than Spotify (twice as much) how are Apple making money from Streaming if Spotify can’t?
No if you want a Big Mac you go to McDonald’s. At the end of the day, every App on the App Store is an Apple collaboration with developers. Apple tools and continued investment in tools, features, support, and marketing give the a right to their share. Remember before Apple that landscape for Mobile meant the platform share was 70%. They are getting more than double and only pay $99 a year to be a licensed developer instead of the $10,000+ it was before.
They can create a webapp or create their own platform and market to get their own customers instead of grazing the fields of the App Store Apple draws customers to.