When I find and install some software on my PC I don't pay a dime to Dell (who made the PC) or to Microsoft (who provided the OS). The only reason I don't/can't do this on my iPad is because Apple won't let me. They have a monopoly and make a lot of money out of it.
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Spotify CEO Daniel Ek on Apple's EU Changes: 'They Think the Rules Don't Apply to Them'
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Are you seriously comparing a virus prone Windows PC that is often the target of hackers and malware to a secure clean trusted experience of iOS/iPadOS????
Daniel Elk and his kind only had one job to do. Ask their users to sign up in a web browser. The reason why wealthy people like to destroy platforms is simple. Wealthy people like Musk etc love to destroy your stability and cause chaos, short stocks, and profit from disaster. They often have powerful backers. For example, Epic has Tencent as their daddy.
Where are regulators and criticism against Tencent by Elk and Sweeney?
If Apple don’t come out with another Mini, or similar small alternative’s, in the coming years, it might be a Samsung Flip next time around for me anyway?!
My mini will be good another few years, no immediate hurry for a new phone for me here.
I do love my Apple devices, but I'm no 'Apple addictive' and my 'love' for Apple haven’t exactly increased during the Tim-era, it have certainly gone in the other direction, for sure.
So if I neither can’t use my phone as I wish, the choices doesn’t exactly point towards big Apple phone next time another around.
My mini will be good another few years, no immediate hurry for a new phone for me here.
I do love my Apple devices, but I'm no 'Apple addictive' and my 'love' for Apple haven’t exactly increased during the Tim-era, it have certainly gone in the other direction, for sure.
So if I neither can’t use my phone as I wish, the choices doesn’t exactly point towards big Apple phone next time another around.
Daniel Elk I would imagine is not the nicest person in the world.
Ditto Tim Sweeney
But that doesn’t stop them from being right.
Growing up in the 90s, I hated how Microsoft behaved in the nascent days of the web. And rooted for plucky Apple to show a better way.
Now Apple is behaving as badly as Microsoft.
I no longer admire the company tbh.
Sure I’m still using their products, because the hardware (and software) is so good. I mean buy a pc - even a nice one - and you’ll see what I mean.
But if there is a good alternative anytime soon, I’m happy now to jump ship.
Ditto Tim Sweeney
But that doesn’t stop them from being right.
Growing up in the 90s, I hated how Microsoft behaved in the nascent days of the web. And rooted for plucky Apple to show a better way.
Now Apple is behaving as badly as Microsoft.
I no longer admire the company tbh.
Sure I’m still using their products, because the hardware (and software) is so good. I mean buy a pc - even a nice one - and you’ll see what I mean.
But if there is a good alternative anytime soon, I’m happy now to jump ship.
Watch the EU legislate away every workaround they have come out with here.
Yeah I think that all of the people who have said that Apple has outwitted the EU are in for a surprise.
You have a point in that it’s pretty shocking / embarrassing how the EU didn’t create their own huge tech companies in the last 25 years and now they’re regulating the US giants. (UK citizen here - I mean ‘subject’ of the crown. I am literally a subject of the crown).
Maybe Spotify should.
It’s not like Apple has their own music streaming service which users could switch over to…
Creating their own first party services to reduce the leverage these streaming companies wield is perhaps one of the more astute moves that Apple has made over the years.
Sure, the EU can do that. But the EU is extremely slow when it comes to legislation. It would take at least 2 years for them to change it.
Which would give Apple a very nice income for 2 years.
That governments hacks iPhones has nothing to do with Apple following the laws and regulations in a country.
Is there a law in China which says a company has to change products to stop the Chinese government from breaking into a device or listening on its communication? I don't think so.
In fact, there is much more likely there exist a law which forbids companies to do so.
iPhones is and should be for people who wants a simple and easy to use experience whether they're technical or non-technical.
The reason I'll have an issue is that with multiple app stores and side loading it's getting more complex, just like Windows, macOS, Linux and Android. There will no longer be a single source for all software.
I might have to make the choice to go different places to get the software I need or want.
Today, I don't have to.
It would be great if there was only one place to get all the software for Windows or the Mac also.
Yes, but you're not arguing why this fee violates article 5, 6 and 7.
You're only quoting what the EU commission can do if Apple isn't in compliance with those articles.
First, only article 5 and 6 applies in this case.
Second, this is still not an argument why the fee violates the articles 5 and 6. This part of the DMA only says a gatekeeper has to be in effective compliance.
The big question is if the fee is in violation with article 5 and 6.
I guess we will know soon enough.
But he thought that Spotify could let users install the app from Spotify's site for free. Now they have to find another appstore with better terms than Apple's to pay less than the 17% (or make their own store and get commissions from other app developers).
It's too much hard work for them to spend billions on R&D and also set up negotiations to use patents etc.. they want Apple to do the hard work and the rest of them get a free ride.
Apple Music is bringing in $350-400 billion in revenue?
What people are referring to when they say that Apple pays double of what Spotify pays, they are talking about what they pay per stream and not in absolute dollars.
No Apple is as a business. If they cared about artists so much they would break them off a bit more from their vast cash pile.
They don't care anymore than Spotify, they just like to pretend they do for PR and because Spotify reported them to regulators.
Apple pays double per stream is nonsense anyway, streaming royalties aren't paid 'per stream'
Well I guess it would be free for other developers to distribute apps through, since that what he wants from Apple.I wonder what a Spotify App Store would look it, or if it would even have enough apps to justify being one.
The fact Apple knew they hacked airdrop in 2019 and did nothing about it until the media found out sums up their feelings on privacy and laws, and even then it's all gone quiet on that front. What good fortune this EU stuff is front page aye.
That's the point, you don't have to do anything, you don't have to ever side load anything ever if you don't want to because the switch in settings doesn't have to ever be turned on.
It's not the Wild West on Android, you have to allow side loading through a button in settings and multiple well explained warnings, it's not scary and very straight forward.