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That's like telling disgruntled citizens to go start their own country.

A: It's impractical and unfeasible
B: Many consumers have been investing in Apple's "ecosystem" since before it got this shady and are "locked in"
That’s not a good analogy. You can’t make your own country. You can make a phone, it’s just difficult.
And nobody is locked in.
 
Why is it their job to allow competition. They have worked hard to get where they are. And they face plenty of competition from Android. People can choose and if something does not do well people run for regulation. The EU does not care about consumers. Its pandering to lobbyists.
The EU cares far more about consumers than anyone else in the world. ;)

Apple uses the EU internal market and therefore has to abide by its rules, just like in any other market in the world. Companies like Apple are so big that smaller companies no longer stand a chance. And not every company has wallets as deep as Apple's.

IMO, Apple shouldn't have any control over which apps get into a third-party store, they can police their own app store as tightly as they want, but not others. Ultimately, it should be up to the user to decide which apps they want on their phone. And what gives them the right to charge a fee for an installation in third-party stores? The third-party store does not belong to them, the apps are not hosted by them and Apple already charges 99 euros per year for the developer account. That's just absurd.

Besides, I don't understand all the fuss. If you're not an EU citizen, it doesn't affect you anyway, and if you are, you can still use the App Store exclusively. :rolleyes:
 
It would be more interesting if Daniel Ek said which part(s) of the DMA Apple violates.

I haven't seen anyone disagreeing with how Apple is going to implement the DMA telling us in what specific way Apple isn't in compliance.

If it's obvious it shouldn't be difficult to point to where.
 
Funny seeing all these posts from people praising this behaviour from Apple but they’re dead silent when it’s Apple helping the Chinese government suppress people or let them hack airdrop for years.

Remember airdrop only findable for ten minutes because China demanded it.

Good times

Apple follows the laws and regulations in all markets they operate, even in autocratic countries like China and Russia.

It's a rule I support.

Businesses shouldn't be involved in politics, human rights, environmental and climate policies. They should just make good products and services.
 
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The situations are not even close to being the same thing.

The EU is giving users more control of their devices, akin to the Mac. You know, letting users install what they want on the devices they purchased. Not at all like spying on their citizens in the manner above you mentioned.

I don't want users to have more control. I don't want the iPhone to be like Windows or the Mac.

A tightly controlled, locked down device is wonderful for so many non-technical people. Having just ONE place to get software in a secure and easy way is also great.

Adding more control to users increases the complexity of the software and the device which isn't good when you just want something which is easy to use and shouldn't require any technical knowledge at all.
 
If Spotify was good, I say they have a point. But since their free-to-play in Japan is terrible they should stop acting like they are a worthwhile company.
 
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Point taken. Apple is greedy because they lock down their ecosystem, Spotify is greedy because they pay half per stream that Apple Music does. They're all greedy in their own unique ways.

Spotify are paying out 75% of their $12 ish billion dollar revenue to the music industry.

If Apple are paying double (that is very dubious) they are paying out $18 billion on revenues of $350-400 billion.

Not sure how that makes Apple the champion of the starving artist.
 
It almost makes me want to buy a Samsung next tbh totally off putting and I don’t even feel the need to sideload. Just how Apple adapted the rules is kind of cringe. Wonder what the EU will eventually (in like 5 years at their pace) say about it.

It’s like those companies here that adapt a cookie banner but you only have the choice between accepting all cookies or subscribing but then they argue „but you have a choice!“ or Facebook only offering a paid subscription to not be tracked in the EU. Shady!
Don't have to wait five years. They will analyze the proposals after March 7th, get feedback from third parties (developers and users) and take strict action.

 
At least spotify pays artists unlike Apple - if there wasn't a massive uproar then they would keep this rule till now. Apple is *******s sometimes and this is one of those occasions
Apple pays artists twice the amount Spotify does. Spotify is a horrible company ripping musicians off in the name of exposure. You shouldn’t defend them one bit.
 
Good luck getting more Vision Pro apps with this hostility, Apple.
VSP isn’t going to be available in the EU for some time. This regulation has zero to do with developers in the EU who would still have to use the US App Store to distribute their apps.
 
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