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Not seeing that in the PC space at all.
Developers are setting their prices, not App stores...
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Not seeing that in the PC space at all.
Developers are setting their prices, not App stores...
Apple tries to repeat what it did with the „right to repair“. Ok, you can repair it yourself, but you need a ton of equipment from us and we make everything so complex and complicated, so you do not want repair it all by yourself.
I‘m interested to see if Apple has success gain following this strategy, or if Mrs Vestager will bite deep and hard until shes hits the bone and Apple finally changes its mind.
I‘m interested to see if Apple has success gain following this strategy, or if Mrs Vestager will bite deep and hard until shes hits the bone and Apple finally changes its mind.
Who owns Apple? Tim, Phil? Neither of them, the stockholders own Apple. And the stockholders decide if they want to loose 25% or even more, if the stock collapses.
Apples market is shrinking. The chinese market? Honor and huawei are on par with Apple and miles ahead in terms of AI. So, loose EU and chinese market at the same time? No way ….
Apple having a locked down ecosystem is how Apple remains competitive against Android. It gives users the choice of something that operates like an appliance rather than a legacy computer model.
It's a very clear case of Apple refusing to sensibly comply. There was no point trying to temporarily abuse loopholes they found in the initial wording.
Yeah computers are too complicated. When I first turn on my iPhone it's... um, well, there's tons of setup screens, multiple pages of apps and widgets, a massive list of settings, all this login and sync stuff. Lots of hidden navigation drawers. Sigh, I miss the iPod. Now that was an appliance.
The UK already left the EU because of legislative overreach.
They know.
macOS has become more like iOS in the last 15 years locking it down slowly. Unfortunately, Apple doesn't have the power to force developers to use the Mac App Store.
1) iOS is proof that you don't have to do it the same way as Windows, Android and macOS. People love using iOS. You use iOS! Millions of developers feel compelled to develop for iOS because of either access to customers or money.
2) Developer's are second class citizens in the Apple ecosystem. Users are more important and many of us want Apple to act as a shield against developers which we consider bad actors until proven otherwise.
3) We want Apple to be in the control. The group which should have no power is developers. If it's anything Apple should be critiqued for, it's not doing a good enough job to censure and control developers and their apps.
They are free to try. If Apple refuse, they should stop developing for Apple platforms.
1) No, they shouldn't. It's a locked down system and developers should have very little choice except not developing.
2) If Apple is as dependent, then app developers should have no problem forcing Apple using their power to do their bidding. Yes, it's a good thing Apple is abusing the developers and treating them as second class citizens. We don't want them to have power over iOS or its users. Developers shouldn't be treated as slaves, but close. They should participate in revenue sharing.
Everything you think is a negative with iOS, I think is great.
Getting paid twice or several times isn't a problem. It's just good business.
It's normal business practise.
I have no problem this companies charging their customers anyway they want as long as it's not in violation of any contracts they have and is clearly spelled out to the users before using their applications.
We're not talking about users here, but developers. I don't mind if developers starve or eat too much cake.
Another iOS dev here. I couldn’t agree more with you! And this is exactly what I was saying would happen. Frameworks aren’t developed by slaves for free! Yes, you’ve got to pay for it.
And the market cap has slowed because Apple isn't making as much money from its developers and users (combined).
Your proposal would make Apple make less money, not helping with its market value.
Because it was developed and rolled out before it was feasible with application stores and no-one knew how lucrative it could be.
macOS has been getting more and more locked down and is getting more and more similar to iOS in several ways.
Because most applications for the Mac has been notarised by Apple. Try installing non-notarised applications or KEXT or some very low level application which mocks with the system files. macOS will put up a lot of resistance because it's more locked down than any point in history.
I don’t think stopping sales in EU would hurt Apple too much. It’s 99.9% Android in EU anyway. If I was Apple I would just have Samsung sell Android phones with licensed Apple logo on it. Easy solution
You only need to be a member of the Apple developer program if you want to distribute your app through the App Store.
You don't need to be a member to develop apps and install it on your devices.
It might. Apps not available in the App Store will affect people only using the App Store if they want the app.
For many users, a locked down ecosystem is the better product for them. That’s how Apple competes. By offering a product that is sufficiently differentiated from android.
Developers get also ripped off. I’d say with the 50ct even more than consumers.
@kiv.atso doubt it.
“This graph shows the market share of mobile vendors in Europe from Jan 2023 - Jan 2024. Apple has 33.42%, Samsung has 31.36% and Xiaomi has 15.08%.”
If you consider the fact, that most Xiaomi and Samsung are < 300€ cheap, I’d say that iPhones will indeed have a non-insignificant impact on their revenue