Yeah when Spotify matched Apple's 14.99 a month family plan it was great. The advantage is that the Spotify accounts are separate where Apple music family plan is all under one apple ID. So for Spotify family you can give premium to anybody and they wont see any of your personal info. I got 5 friends to be in my "family" and they paid me 30 bucks for a year, so it's like $2.50 a month for me now.
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Spotify Has Twice as Many Paid Subscribers as Apple Music
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Yeah when Spotify matched Apple's 14.99 a month family plan it was great. The advantage is that the Spotify accounts are separate where Apple music family plan is all under one apple ID. So for Spotify family you can give premium to anybody and they wont see any of your personal info. I got 5 friends to be in my "family" and they paid me 30 bucks for a year, so it's like $2.50 a month for me now.
U ever seen a runner come in last place ?
Spotify just works out of the bx because its "only a music service", so it's easier to manage. Apple has has all this cloud stuff to work with as well as the music stuff, but its all in the same place, which complicated 'which piece goes where' type model...
I was a Spotify paying member. Then gave Apple Music a try for about 6 months or so. Can't say I was unhappy with AM but decided to buy some Denon HEOS speaker systems (have 5) since the older systems were deeply discounted as they rolled out new products. Doesn't support AM (like SONOS) so I went back to Spotify--and have to say I did miss the thousands of user created playlists offered by Spotify. I was in the mood for some 60s and 70s music and found a playlist that had over 70 hours of music--wow--so I doubt I would go back to AM even if HEOS were to get it.
Yep, same here. The wealth of user-generated playlists is Spotify's killer feature IMO. You can always find great lists even for the smallest niche genre. It's also the basis for the personalized Discover Weekly playlist, which produces absolutely amazing results for me. Here's an interesting article on how it works:
http://qz.com/571007/the-magic-that-makes-spotifys-discover-weekly-playlists-so-damn-good/
If Apple Music is full of bugs and has a terrible UI... you should have concluded with that.
You didn't need to bring "a billion active devices" into the conversation.
That's the part I didn't understand... yet you found it so important that you mentioned it five times.
I don't believe the number of active devices and the number of Apple Music subscriptions have anything to do with each other.
If Apple Music had zero bugs and a pleasant UI... more people would be using it, right?
But the number of active devices would still be the same.
So that's why I don't think the number of active devices should have been included in your evaluation.
You were trying to make some correlation between the number of active devices and the number of Apple Music subscribers.
But I don't think there is a relationship there. That's all I was saying
If Apple Music is full of bugs and has a terrible UI... you should have concluded with that.
You didn't need to bring "a billion active devices" into the conversation.
That's the part I didn't understand... yet you found it so important that you mentioned it five times.
I don't believe the number of active devices and the number of Apple Music subscriptions have anything to do with each other.
If Apple Music had zero bugs and a pleasant UI... more people would be using it, right?
But the number of active devices would still be the same.
So that's why I don't think the number of active devices should have been included in your evaluation.
You were trying to make some correlation between the number of active devices and the number of Apple Music subscribers.
But I don't think there is a relationship there. That's all I was saying
It's called conversion rate from markerting and advertising , which makes the active devices on which you are able to push these very important . I've worked with advertising for almost 10 years, the 1 billion active devices you can push these ads is a gold mine , though the conversion rate is awful.
I think you will Find having iTunes , and it being a sucessful program on Windows, was a reason iPod was sucessful. Apple Music could do the same for Apple sales. So I disagree with your assessment that the devices will remain the same.
Bottom line, I'll sign up when they get it sorted.
We know Apple Music is installed on every iPhone, iPad and Mac that leaves the factory.
If you're gonna say Apple Music adoption is poor... we might wanna see how it compares to other preinstalled services.
The only other platform that means anything today is Google Android... with billions of devices... but I doubt the Google Play Music conversion rate is better than Apple Music.
Spotify has twice as many subscribers as Apple and it's an additional download... but it also had the advantage of being around for many years. People have heard of it. It's tough to do a head-to-head comparison between any of these services.
Not the same. Under android I get a variety of music players that access the android file system, where I copy my music. I'm not forced to use google music , I've never had google music force advertisements on me.
Apple is actively pushing advertising to its user base, and you have to use AW app or iTunes , AW built in , if you want full functionality
don't forget Netflix has some 80 million users, shows that when you get it right , people join.
Anyway , we see things differently, so let's agree to disagree on the sucess of AW .
What is success?
Is 15 million paid subscribers in less than a year a success? That sure sounds like it to me.
Who else has done that? No one.
You can say Apple Music has bugs and a questionable UI... but that doesn't make it unsuccessful.
And it's certainly not a "fail"
What is success?
Is 15 million paid subscribers in less than a year a success? That sure sounds like it to me.
Who else has done that? No one.
You can say Apple Music has bugs and a questionable UI... but that doesn't make it unsuccessful.
And it's certainly not a "fail"
I consider it a fail, deal with it. I have a higher value of success than you. I'm sure had they for 7.5 million, you would be claiming it a success as its only the first year.
I'm not going to explain advertising / markerting 101.
As I said , let's agree to disagree. Just enjoy it, I'll join maybe in a year or two when apple gets it right in my opinion
Something is either a fail or it isn't. There's no gradation.
Apple Music is the #2 paid on-demand music streaming service in the world... yet you call it a fail.
So do you consider Tidal a fail? Google Play Music? Rhapsody?
Is anyone not named Spotify a failure?
Because... you know... Spotify has their own set of issues they're dealing with.
Something is either a fail or it isn't. There's no gradation.
Apple Music is the #2 paid on-demand music streaming service in the world... yet you call it a fail.
So do you consider Tidal a fail? Google Play Music? Rhapsody?
Is anyone not named Spotify a failure?
Because... you know... Spotify has their own set of issues they're dealing with.
In MY OPINION it's a fail........ Are you struggling with "my" or " opinion" or the combination
. "YOUR OPINION" its a success....see last line !Apple Watch is 1st or second, I also consider it a failure. I own one. Another OPINION.
Lol, I'm not defending Spotify at all.....not once did I say they were a success.
You are failing to comprehend what I am saying, we are jsut wasting everyone's time.
Should I say for a 5th time, let's agree to disagree? seems after 5 attempts I get through....
I doubt you will ever get your head around the idea that something apple produces or launches is not a sucess .
It does not mean others do not have differing opinions, as this debate has proven.
Have a good night.
I'm not saying everything Apple does is a success.
But if the #1 and #2 music streaming services are not a success... maybe the scale of measurement needs to be adjusted.
Good night to you too.
Spotify pay way less than Apple does - the CEO of Spotify is ultra rich while all the bands get paid pennies.....
Our label has been on iTunes since 2006 and none our artists will ever be on Spotify until this changes.
Pharrel Wiliams was paid $25,000 for 50 Million plays - that is shameful.
Our label has been on iTunes since 2006 and none our artists will ever be on Spotify until this changes.
Pharrel Wiliams was paid $25,000 for 50 Million plays - that is shameful.
I've been listening to Radio Paradise https://www.radioparadise.com/rp_2.php?# , they use icecast. Here a list of icecast streams http://dir.xiph.org
Then I started jonesing for some dance ... so I switched to Puls'radio https://www.pulsradio.com/dance/
Then I started jonesing for some dance ... so I switched to Puls'radio https://www.pulsradio.com/dance/
Good one--touche with the hyperbole. I happen to be a monthly Apple Music subscriber and experience annoying glitches that result in a less than perfect experience. Perhaps no streaming service is without its technical faults, I just happen to have experienced more with Apple Music versus Spotify. In the end I prefer Apple Music, so I deal with these random issues.
I'd be delighted if Apple would focus, do their best work and deliver a version of Apple Music that's truly better than anything else on the market.
While this latest example of Apple Music does show signs of improvement, it's still not that great.
Apple Maps
Apple Music
Apple iCloud
This list of fairly mediocre software continues...
Good morning sir.
I don't base sucess on X subscribers , I base it on using a product. And from this my opinion is formed. AW is a fail for me , it's not a good user experience . What made me switch to Apple was the user experience , which seems to have been completely thrown out in regards to the navigation and intuitive usability.