What are you talking about? The entire market is android. They have more than 70 percent market share. What did I say that isn’t true?
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide
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What are you talking about? The entire market is android. They have more than 70 percent market share. What did I say that isn’t true?
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide
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Great stuff..
I think too many seem to be blindsided by Apple's marketing and PR about themselves.
They are just a very shiny version of every other huge scumbag corporation at this point.
Great stuff..
I think too many seem to be blindsided by Apple's marketing and PR about themselves.
They are just a very shiny version of every other huge scumbag corporation at this point.
It’s clearly not a monopoly. They have 20 percent of the smartphone market. And that doesn’t even count competing non-smartphone devices.
Did you read Apple’s own article? After all, this thread is about it. They used your example by the way.
This isn’t a consistency problem. Read the damn article. Digital goods have a 30% tax cut, not physical goods. Geeze!!!!¡. If you’re going to argue, get some knowleDge first. Don’t argue with ignorance.
Yes. Agreed.
Thing is, Apple is also… These are mega billion dollar corporations. They only look at their bottom lines, the profit and their shareholders. We are the products.
I just find it strange that some people think Apple is to be seen as some supposedly moral company on the side of the "little guy".
That is just BS.
That spiel was clever PR by Jobs and co… and some swallowed it hook, line and sinker and happy to be reeled in.
I like using (some) Apple products, But not for one moment am I kidding myself that I am on the side of the good and virtuous.
This ain't Star Wars, people…
I sub to all services through each website. I feel its easier to keep track. I know apple has a menu where one can see all sub services but im. Old school i guess as i sub from let say hbo, netflix,viaplay own homepages.
So.. Apple uses the resources of myriad of internet service providers. Uses resources of various electrical systems. Uses resources of transportation networks. Of malls. Apple uses the resources off colleges and universities. When will Apple pay their fair cut for using those resources?
That may be, but a lot of people prefer and enjoy the simplicity of doing things in app/on device as simply as possible.
My point is that you don't want to encourage rule making that favors companies that already have brand recognition, size and market share. That's tremendously stifling to any potential challengers now and in the future.
Qualcomm is basically a monoLopY when it chums to those chips tho!!! Apple still SUX 4 eating their own werds regardless. But it’s still Apple’s platform. Two wRONgs don’t make a right¡!
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Samsung is both a supplier and competitor for Apple too. That perspective is moot, it’s regular business.
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That aside, to the others that who think even the current 15% is too much, one need to only realize that Apple is in essence a direct to customer distributor. Distributors asking for 15-20% is pretty standard, and that’s distributors which sell to other businesses, not even going as far as the individual sales to customers which would warrant even more profit. Even 30% for direct to customer distribution is warranted, not even considering the fact that it’s actually Apple’s customer list. In truth, Apple is justified to ask for more.
They PAY FOR THOSE THINGS. They pay taxes, they pay rent, they pay for utilities, they build solar farms...
Ummm. . . . he does have a degree in Engineering from Auburn. I suspect he is more than just a "Bean Counter."
So why doesn't Apple take a 30% cut of ride sharing revenue that goes through iOS Apps for Uber & Lyft?
Yeap totally.
Don’t worry, I think this case has legs and Apple will be penalised by the EU, and Apple is arrogant enough to wind them up too believing they can do whatever they want..
Then all the defenders on here will have to declare the EU anti competition commission as rigged, fake, biased and anything else but correct and right. Totally ignoring the fact they are the ones that win, but anything to defend Apple no matter what it does.
Learn to read the article, before senselessly arguing!!!!!
Stop spreading false information, own up to it, own up to the fact that you didn’t read the article or even understand why Apple charges a 30% tax with certain in-app purchases!!! Boooo
Haha. Well said...
Yes, you are correct. Apple has a monopoly on Mac Hardware. They could license their software and hardware to third parties if they chose to do so.
The DO NOT have a monopoly on PC’s.
Do yourself a favor...
Click this link:
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/com...ws/single-firm-conduct/monopolization-defined
A monopoly is a complicated - multi component definition that cannot be defined with a single sentence.
I have a feeling Apple’s team of lawyers know a thing or two about monopolies. Furthermore I am also fairly sure they consider these principals before giving guidance towards the development of App Store policies.
You got people like turbineseaplane who didn’t read Apple’s statement or researched the context behind why Apple charges a 30% tax with certain in-app purchases.
Apple says in the statement: Apple does not profit from physical goods.
Apple charges 30% with digital goods.
Apple says in the statement: Apple does not profit from physical goods.
Apple charges 30% with digital goods.
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Welll... yes and no...
Apple is the ONE gatekeeper of one of only two mobile platforms. So they are maybe not a monopolist, but a duopoluist.
Why would it be filed in the United States? Bizarre comment. This is being filed by a Europian company under EU law. Try to keep up.
Their delivery method and business model is why not. If the thing they are selling are features and services provided as in-app purchases then they would be subject to 30-15%. However that’s not actually the case. I can see how some might delude them to be the same, but the truth is customers of Uber and Lyft are not purchasing digital services provided through an app. Instead Uber and Lyft provide physical services not delivered through the App Store but delivered physically in person. Their business models exclude them from the limitations of the App Store. It’s the same for Airbnb and many others. If that perspective you hold is true, then Apple would be taking 15% from Amazon too. Physical services are exempt, and Amazon doesn’t offer digital media subscriptions through their app.
Harley owners have some charm. The bikes are unique and have a tradition. They don't claim the bikes or the company are anything other than what they are. Not the best technology not the fastest not the most comfortable ride. Don't bother to defend the poor quality or high prices.
They have a point. Apple definitely has gone from the “little man” to a monopolistic-level of operating. On the other hand, thanks to capitalism, consumers have a choice and can choose not to go through Apple for the subscription. Vote with your dollars.
Apple DOES profit from physical goods sold in the Apple Store, just not 30% of revenue. Perhaps that's the reason no one is up in arms over Apple's Apple Store profit. They also don't prohibit companies with products in the Apple Store from mentioning other non-Apple places they can buy said products.