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Spotify on Apple's Response to App Store Dispute: 'Every Monopolist Will Suggest They Have Done Nothing Wrong'
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On a Siri being able to control Spotify I actually agree. This should have been solved already.
I am so tired of people like you, all you do is whine and throw out absurd baseless and ignorant opinions about cost when you have no clue how a business is run!
So you are an expert and know the business structure and cost involved in developing and implementing a worldwide network for software distribution ? It cost money to develop the SDK’s, it cost money to build and host the servers for iOS, it cost money to review all of the apps to make sure they comply with the TOS, it cost money to process payments and do all the accounting. It cost money to hire lawyers to deal with the legalities of conducting business in each country, not to mention an the expense of dealing with the complexities of translating and working within numerous different countries, laws and customs iand coordinates acting that I. To a system that works world wide. It cost money to manage the entire system of networks, troubleshoot issues and provide technical support to developers. Apple and the app developers have agreements on the cost and the rates for the services Apple provides. There are contracts and these rates are deemed legal and fair by accountants, executives and lawyers on both sides who have studied these issues in depth. Yet somehow YOU think you are an expert and 1% is fair for the services provided?
Sorry, Apple is a company to provide products and services so they can make a profit, they are not here to just give you stuff because you think the % is too high. Don’t like it? Go build you own operating system, servers and app ecosysems - Assuming you could even do so, and that you got a si gel person to buy in to it, I would love to see you do this and pay for it using only 1-5% of the gross sales!
As soon as you subscribe to Spotify they send you emails to lower your subscription to $9.99 by going to their web page.
They even use their own streaming audio service to tell you subscribe through their web page.
I can’t see how their complaint that Apple is preventing them from communicating with their own customers is legit.
I was thinking the same thing. Spotify is to artists as Apple is to Spotify - a platform in which to deliver a product/ service. Along the same lines we could say we are more accurately "[insert favourite band] customers, not Spotify customers". I think it's quite hypocritical of Spotify to start crying like little bitches.
If the issue was against Apple Music specifically being on unequal ground with Spotify on iOS, I think their complaint would be more justified.
If the issue was against Apple Music specifically being on unequal ground with Spotify on iOS, I think their complaint would be more justified.
I personally like Apple’s app purchases,, because I don’t like to subscribe to a bunch of web sites... then when it comes time to change my info, credit card, I change it only one place... it’s convenient for me and I feel safer.
Not anymore. Not to mention the EU has no legal power outside it. I assume Spotify has more customers outside the EU.
Someone better update their Wikipedia page then, because it still says Headquarters: Stockholm, Sweden.
It is a monopoly because they sold me a device, then tell me what Apps I can put on it. That does not work with any other device you buy. If they leased the device that would be different. But they sold it to me and therefor they are being monopolistic unless they do one of two things; 1) basically approve any app that does not hurt the device's security, or 2) allow side loading of apps outside of the Apple store.
Would you accept a TV that only plays certain TV programs? No. How about a guitar that would only play classical music? No. How about a car that only goes to approved locations, for example, that do not serve alcohol. No.
Now you might say that I bought the device knowing this so it's my own fault. But the Apple App Store rules are capricious, arrogant, and stifling. I did not know that when I entered the Apple ecosystem and the rules have gotten much worse with time.
With computer chips being put in everything now, we have to stifle this nannyish behavior before it pervades every device. Think about a nanny Tesla, or a nanny refrigerator, or a nanny toaster that only toasts full grain bread.
No.
No that is not what they said.
Marketshare of what?
Does apple have a monopoly on pizzas? Clearly no.
Does apple have a monopoly on iOS app stores? Yes.
Did apple create "the platform"? Yes but they didn't make those 3rd party apps.
No other store has a monopoly on certain products where other people made the products.
Mc Donald's has a monopoly on big macs but they made the big macs, not some 3rd party. Apple didn't make these 3rd party apps.
Because choice is good?
Because it is better than Apple Music?
*shrug*
Why does that bother you?
First of all "Choice is good?" in and of itself is not an argument. People confuse choice with abundance all the time. Second which one is better is highly subjective.
In America maybe.
Let’s see how Apple likes it to sell no product in Europe, shall we? Her name is Margrethe Vestager, look it up!
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The level of people defending these practices by Apple is absurd. Spotify has a great case here, Apple are being extremely anti-competitive by not playing by the same rules as the rest of the streaming apps.
Oh I see!
So I should be dreadfully unhappy because I have a choice apart from AppleMusic's Hip Hop and "Urban" centred music offering?
Really?
Take off your Apple blinkers sometimes.
Seriously… the world outside of Apple is quite nice…
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Agreed.
But… the Apple… err… fa… err… supporters cannot allow themselves to see things objectively.
That would be betrayal!
Apple plays by the same rules on every other platform than their own. That’s the nice thing about owning a minority platform. You can do what you want.