And it will always remain wishful thinking. Even bid developers like making money - and Apple has done such a great job with their ecosystem that the folks with the most disposable income hang out on their platform. The numbers speak for themselves - with less than 29% market share in smartphones, Apple’s App Store manages to get almost twice the revenue.
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Spotify on Apple's Response to App Store Dispute: 'Every Monopolist Will Suggest They Have Done Nothing Wrong'
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It is nice outside. Do you know how I know? Because I live in a beautiful forest, last time I saw a TV was 15 years ago. I grow my own vegetables, hunt and discuss Apple because I like Apple, but I judge very issue on it's merits, not blindly follow. How dare you.Oh I see!
So I should be dreadfully unhappy because I have a choice apart from AppleMusic's Hip Hop and "Urban" centred music offering?
Really?
Take off your Apple blinkers sometimes.
Seriously… the world outside of Apple is quite nice…
Take off the tin hat - Isn’t Spotify a Swedish company?
Is it really that hard to argue in good faith?
- Founded in Sweden
- Head office still in Sweden
- Legal offices in Luxembourg
However you want to cut it, they're an EU company.
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Yep.
...and w see how choice worked in Windows with respect to malware. No thank you - I like Apple weeding out the crap for me.
Hopefully Apple just removes them from their store. It is apples store not spottily's and apple has no obligation to host a competitors app. Ban them and kill them off.
Spotify on Wednesday announced it filed an antitrust complaint against Apple with the European Commission over unfair App Store practices. Apple responded two days later, labeling the complaint as "misleading rhetoric" and arguing that "Spotify wants all the benefits of a free app without being free."
The war of words has since continued. In a statement issued to Variety, Spotify said "every monopolist will suggest they have done nothing wrong" and that, consequently, Apple's response was "entirely in line" with its expectations.
Spotify's statement:See Spotify's Time to Play Fair website and Apple's Addressing Spotify's Claims press release for each company's stance.
Article Link: Spotify on Apple's Response to App Store Dispute: 'Every Monopolist Will Suggest They Have Done Nothing Wrong'
It was started in Sweden. People invested in it from all over the world. It’s not a Swedish company anymore.
All part of Tim Apple's master plan.
He sucked all his cash out of the EU and they're pissed.
So now he wants to give them some cash in a way that'll appease them. Kindof like what Google just did.
Get the money back into the politicians' coffers.
All this rhetoric is just to increase the amount he'll send to them.
He sucked all his cash out of the EU and they're pissed.
So now he wants to give them some cash in a way that'll appease them. Kindof like what Google just did.
Get the money back into the politicians' coffers.
All this rhetoric is just to increase the amount he'll send to them.
Look at you people.. You're all laughable. None of these companies actually care about the artist or the consumer.
I'll keep on downloading how I see and fit without the overpriced monthly subscriptions and buy concert tickets etc to sponsor those artists I really like. Rock & Roll baby!
I'll keep on downloading how I see and fit without the overpriced monthly subscriptions and buy concert tickets etc to sponsor those artists I really like. Rock & Roll baby!
If there was a case she would have hit Apple with antitrust long ago. Apple doesn’t have a monopoly on the App Store market. They are the App Store market. When you own the market you choose what you sell and how you do it. Every case she’s hit tech companies have been due to third party hardware violations.
They do, actually. Netflix were not happy either about Apple’s 30% cut. Imagine, if people subscribe to Spotify, Netflix, etc. directly with the platform, the platform gets 100% of subscription fees. If they subscribe via an iOS app, this drops to 70%. It’s a big cut.
Spotify is already by-passing in-app purchasing, by requiring users to subscribe on their website. So they already retain that 30% from a lot of ppl.
If you want more options, get an Android. Apple's phones are for people that prefer curation and security. Side-loading will make iPhone insecure, which is not what most people want.
That is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Spotify are only appealing to the EU because they will be more receptive to their argument than the US.
As we've already established, their legal headquarters are in the EU. They were founded in the EU.
They're an EU company.
It is a decision to make, it isn't like companies don't have that option.
Do you want on the App Store? yes or no ?
Ok, if yes then it will cost 30% of cost. Are you ok with this? Yes or No?
If yes, move on
If no, move on.
Not agree to terms and then complain about it after the fact. You make another decision, get off of the App Store or stay.
But… the Apple… err… fa… err… supporters cannot allow themselves to see things objectively.
That would be betrayal!
MacRumors has always been like this:
Well, I wouldn’t any longer call Spotify a Swedish company. It is an international company that originates from Sweden.[/QUOTE]
I guess Apple isn't an American company either....
But seriously, if Spotify/Netflix etc. were allowed to link to their websites from within the app to avoid the 30% Apple cut, I would say they have no chance. However as Apple ban developers from even mentioning within their app that they can sign up for free from outside the app, I say good luck to them.
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Exactly... Apple didn't build that platform by themselves. If other companies didn't contribute anything then the iOS and the App Store would have been a failure.
As a costumer if you don’t want a walled off garden you have the freedom to buy from a manufacturer who gives you more freedom. One of the reasons I like apples ecosystem is it’s safe and closed off. Just look at all the scam problems associated with fortnight because on android it’s not in the play store
iOS app developer here. The underlying problem is that Apple Music doesn't have to pay the 30% fee on subscriptions since it's part of Apple, so it's an unfair playing field. This is clear anti-competitive behavior on Apple's part, as much as they try to distract from that. Apple's reply doesn't really address this issue.
As every app designer and developer knows, offering the lowest-friction way to subscribe (IAP) is best. Apple's point that "only a tiny fraction of their subscriptions fall under Apple’s revenue-sharing model" is irrelevant because Spotify concluded paying the 30% wasn't worth it. Apple Music, on the other hand, gets the best user-experience for free. It's totally unfair.
As every app designer and developer knows, offering the lowest-friction way to subscribe (IAP) is best. Apple's point that "only a tiny fraction of their subscriptions fall under Apple’s revenue-sharing model" is irrelevant because Spotify concluded paying the 30% wasn't worth it. Apple Music, on the other hand, gets the best user-experience for free. It's totally unfair.
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Sure companies are about to pull out the App Store that generates the most profit.
Music is a big thing in Sweden or it has been. Now Spotify is a big thing while carrying music to it‘s grave by not giving artists a square deal.
But I guess that’s how things go these days. Calling someone a monopolist while being the biggest music streaming service with nothing else but growing in mind seems indeed a little whiny..
At the end of the day consumers will decide what service suits their expectations / needs most and as long as Spotify keeps up their good service they have nothing to worry about..
Oh wait, at some point it might be nice to actually make some money.
But I guess that’s how things go these days. Calling someone a monopolist while being the biggest music streaming service with nothing else but growing in mind seems indeed a little whiny..
At the end of the day consumers will decide what service suits their expectations / needs most and as long as Spotify keeps up their good service they have nothing to worry about..
Oh wait, at some point it might be nice to actually make some money.
Apple has 1.3 billion (or more) active devices worldwide. They developed the platform (App Store), maintain the platform, started the ball rolling so the collective universe no longer needs to go buys plastic discs to listen to music etc etc. They deserve a cut. They allow competition. How much money would Spotify have to pay out to develop their own standalone software distribution platform as well as the devices to play the music they pilfer from artists.?? Apple is the reason technology has universally advanced to the point where Spotify can even exist.. how many millionaires have been made because of the App Store and apples efforts? Do you remember what software distribution was like pre iPhone?
Maybe Apple is greedy asking for 30%?? How do you calculate 1-5% as fair... and how does that make Apple less of a monopoly by charging less to use their platform?
Apple should charge themselves 30% of the Apple Music subscription fee. Got it.