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Did anyone actually read the articles this post is based on? No artists have pulled their music from Spotify in response to this, but at least one artist has cancelled a potential Apple exclusive deal. This tactic is working, and if it continues to work, no one will benefit more from it than you and I, regardless of which streaming service you inexplicably fanboy for.

Perhaps in the short term it's working. Let's revisit in a year.
 
I guess being petty is their new business model.

This not a good way for a company to act and garner favor among artists or consumers. It's like they're lashing out as a last resort.

All I can think of when seeing stuff like this is. Spotify's grapes must be sour.

The same could be said of Apple when they removed Monster from the "Made for iPhone" accessory program.

http://www.cultofmac.com/326491/monster-apple-bully/

Apple is accused of corporate bullying after reportedly booting rival headphone maker Monster from its “Made for iPhone” accessory program.

Monster claims the move is in retaliation for an ongoing lawsuit against Beats, which is now owned by Apple. Monster was the original contract manufacturer of Beats-branded headphones. The move could seriously impact Monster’s headphone business.

Without the ability to take advantage of Apple’s MFi program, Monster accessories can’t carry the Made for iPhone logo that verifies they work together, nor does Monster have access to the tools and support Apple offers to other third-party manufacturers.

The story comes from The Wall Street Journal, which reports that Apple’s chief litigation counsel Noreel Krall told Monster’s general counsel David Tognotti that the agreement within the MFi program is coming to an end on May 5.

According to Tognotti, Krall said that because of the lawsuit, the relationship between Apple and Monster is not “mutually beneficial.”

“It shows a side of Apple that consumers don’t see very often,” Monster’s Tognotti told The Wall Street Journal, expressing his disapproval of Apple’s actions.

“Apple can be a bully,” he added.

Monster’s lawsuit alleges that Beats stole its headphone technology and was holding out on profits owed after Apple’s acquisition.
 
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That's Spotify's free choice. They sure are making themselves attractive for artists: fighting for lower streaming payments, promising to demote artists that accept money from other companies for exclusives.

Have fun alienating artists, Spotify.
 
The same could be said of Apple when they removed Monster from the "Made for iPhone" accessory program.

http://www.cultofmac.com/326491/monster-apple-bully/

Apple is accused of corporate bullying after reportedly booting rival headphone maker Monster from its “Made for iPhone” accessory program.

Monster claims the move is in retaliation for an ongoing lawsuit against Beats, which is now owned by Apple. Monster was the original contract manufacturer of Beats-branded headphones. The move could seriously impact Monster’s headphone business.

Without the ability to take advantage of Apple’s MFi program, Monster accessories can’t carry the Made for iPhone logo that verifies they work together, nor does Monster have access to the tools and support Apple offers to other third-party manufacturers.

The story comes from The Wall Street Journal, which reports that Apple’s chief litigation counsel Noreel Krall told Monster’s general counsel David Tognotti that the agreement within the MFi program is coming to an end on May 5.

According to Tognotti, Krall said that because of the lawsuit, the relationship between Apple and Monster is not “mutually beneficial.”

“It shows a side of Apple that consumers don’t see very often,” Monster’s Tognotti told The Wall Street Journal, expressing his disapproval of Apple’s actions.

“Apple can be a bully,” he added.

Monster’s lawsuit alleges that Beats stole its headphone technology and was holding out on profits owed after Apple’s acquisition.


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Then you're being blinded by fanboyism. EVEN THE CEO OF UNIVERSAL understands that exclusives are bad for the market and bad for consumers. How in the world can't you?
Setting aside your random use of "fanboyism" here (the guy just said he didn't think exclusives were that bad) and the debatability of the benefit/harm of exclusive content, I don't follow your logic.

You're saying that since a person with deep knowledge of the music industry understands something, then an average person should too. You now understand that you have that backwards, right?
 
Can you point out where in this chain you have made a logical, persuasive argument? Because your points have degenerated into shrill name-calling. Other people have actual tried to make logical arguments on the other side, and you just respond with the above. Maybe you can just summarize or link to the places where you did the same, as you've just lost the thread at this point.

As soon as he gets done granting wishes from under bridges and helping that chick find her little brother in Labyrinth, perhaps you'll see a persuasive argument. Until then, pure spite and vitriol.
 
They counter-argue that if it isn't given to them for free, they will just steal it. And then EVERYONE WILL BE SO SORRY for forcing them to become pirates.




I love the mentality of people who think they are being a hero by using a free ad supported tier instead of pirating. Go back to pirating. Good luck emulating that experience of having access to all music produced ever through piracy. Have fun organizing that too.
 
as much as I love Spotify, if Apple decides to revoke the Spotify app from the App Store I would just laugh. Spotify is starting the be the a_hole/greedy company.

This would be the watershed moment for Apple's autonomy over their app store and would be a major judicial case. I'd imagine Apple could risk having a monopoly on the App Store and how apps are installed on iOS all together.
 
They can't afford it. And they're one decision by the music industry away from bankruptcy. If sales are better with Google, Apple, and other services, then Spotify is going to be crushed-- not by Apple, but by the big companies that can offer promotions and so on. They want music streaming to attract people to the store, the computer or the phone. They can up what they pay for the streaming. Spotify is getting ground up by the big boys.



Here’s an idea. Spotify should kill their free tier and make everybody pay something. That should greatly help their financials. When has being the champion of leeches ever made good business sense?

According to their loyalists they have a superior service. Great. They should pay for that. Nothing to be shocked or offended by.
 
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Nothing tangible. Just the intangibles. Making Samsung a little more wary of crossing the line. Solidifying their position as the (perceived) innovator. Keeping competitors like Xiaomi from jumping into the U.S. Who knows what else.

There's no evidence of a major distraction for management. We will never know what would have happened if they didn't sue Samsung. But the reality where they did sue Samsung turned out spectacularly well. Better than any manufactured product in history.

The current reality turned out spectacularly well not for the trial but for the products and the management. However, let's just agree to disagree on the trial, given we agree on everything else.
 
Please tell me how they can achieve this nebulous goal of "having a better product" when they don't have the cash to bribe artists to artificially limit the availability of their music.

You people are utterly childish and transparent fanboys. Exclusives hurt no one but YOU. Stop defending this awful behavior just because it helps Apple.
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Nah, that's not how this works, take your childish strawman elsewhere.
Umm I don't subscribe to Apple Music. I actually BUY music so the artist gets more royalty. If I did subscribe to AM it would be for music discovery and then I would BUY the music I like. If people want to get free music, they can listen to the radio. They don't have to subscribe to ANY service. I'm not hurt by exclusives one bit. Oh wait I am hurt by one exclusive. TIDAL has the a lot of the Prince catalog that I need that's not on iTunes. I'm not subscribing to Tidal as much as I love Prince. Tidal does have a store where I can purchase if I want. I am trying to see if Apple buys Tidal and then hopefully I can get all the music in one place.

People are so silly. Next thing you know folks will be mad they have to pay for a concert ticket. STOP BEING CHEAP!
 
Here’s an idea. Spotify should kill their free tier and make everybody pay something. That should greatly help their financials. When has being the champion of leeches ever made good business sense?

According to their loyalists they have a superior service. Great. They should pay for that. Nothing to be shocked or offended by.

If it was that easy... wouldn't they have done it by now?

Spotify has been bleeding money for YEARS... despite getting BILLIONS of dollars from investors with no profit in sight.

I agree with you... they have to do something.

I just can't believe that we've thought of this and they haven't.
 
WalMart has been doing exclusive music deals for decades.
Target has exclusivity deals.

Like others have said this is nothing new, the people can still get the music they just have to go to a specific place to get it. It could possibly be a little inconvenient for some but you can still get it.
 
Can you point out where in this chain you have made a logical, persuasive argument? Because your points have degenerated into shrill name-calling. Other people have actual tried to make logical arguments on the other side, and you just respond with the above. Maybe you can just summarize or link to the places where you did the same, as you've just lost the thread at this point.
I like that he restored to just shouting at people before apparently jumping the thread. This whole conversation has been very entertaining to read. :D
 
Funny how Spotify never had any problems with exclusives when they had no competition. Now that the competition is eating their lunch they are standing up "for the fans"? Yeah, ok.
exactly my point - now they're trying to compete with the 500 pound gorilla and can't so they're changing their tune. pun intended ;)
 
If it was that easy... wouldn't they have done it by now?

Spotify has been bleeding money for YEARS... despite getting BILLIONS of dollars from investors with no profit in sight.

I agree with you... they have to do something.

I just can't believe that we've thought of this and they haven't.



The reason it isn’t easy is because they have been giving it away for free for too long and anybody with 1/8 a clue knows a big percentage of users will leave once they start charging everybody. All they have as a selling point right now is a huge (mostly valueless) user base. Without that they are screwed.


As an extension, I’m fed up with the majority of the tech industry’s value being based on perception that probably won’t amount to anything tangible in most cases. I welcome its collapse. This is where it starts.

I have issues. Clearly.
 
How are these exclusives not the subject of investigation by the authorities - especially in Europe?

Last time I checked, concocting a monopoly out of a naturally competitive market was illegal in the UK. :rolleyes:

Does McDonalds in London sell Pepsi products?
 
Won't those things push artists more towards Apple Music?

'You're going to burry my music at the bottom of search results because I was mentioned on Beats One? I've been on loads of radio stations but now it's a problem? Okay, pull my music from your library, Spotify.'
 
Great take a rumor for the truth, do not take this site for proper journalism. Not the first time it shows sponsored 'news'.
Source for any of this? Who sponsored this article? Who sponsored any past news articles?
 
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